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UrieHusky

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I don't care if anybody does or doesn't buy EA games.
All I know is I'm not using origin, I outright refuse.
So yeah either I switch to buying EA games on console or I stop buying them all together.

Long story short, I'm not gonna stop you boycotting them but I'm not buying their stuff on my own choice, not as a boycott.
 

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Y'know people, the fact that so many of you are refusing to join a boycott is the very reason the boycott won't work. By being so pessimistic and unwilling about it, you're part of the problem. You proud of that?

Corporations are never going to improve on their own. They always try to get the most money for the worst service they can get away with. And thus, EA is only going to get even worse if we let 'em. The only thing corporations ever, ever, ever care about is their bottom line. If human trafficking was legal, EA would definitely invest in child sex slave stocks. Corporations do not care about ethics. Some individuals within corporations care about ethics, but at the end of the day if it doesn't bring a profit, it doesn't matter.

And thus, there are two and only two ways to make corporations behave. The first one is extensive regulation to the micro level. Laws that tell corporations exactly what they can and can't do, and exactly how they have to do it. Essentially we need not a free market, but a chained up market that gets whipped and stepped on whenever it's been naughty. I'm actually a huge fan of this approach, but nobody else is because people actually care about the rights of huge wealthy entities that don't care about our rights. Go figure.

The second way? Boycotting of course. The only way people can possibly make corporations behave is by hurting their bottom line. And the only way to hurt a corporation's bottom line is a large-scale boycott. But because so many of you care too much about the short term, you're unwilling to do something that'll improve the long term. Which, by the way, is the same attitude that leads to obesity and global warming and laziness. Putting the short term before the long term never, ever, ever has a positive outcome. We're killing our favorite industry by letting it do whatever it wants.

If we don't stand up for ourselves, we will see a future where EA will put commercial breaks - not just billboards (which is already pretty terrible) but actual commercial BREAKS in their games. We will see a future where you have to enter a code just to play the single player mode. We will see a future where we can only use our copy of a game on a single console. We will see a future where an EA forum ban is means that you have to re-buy every game you ever bought from them. And that's why I'm drawing the line here.

So yes, I'm joining the boycott.
 

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Belated said:
Y'know people, the fact that so many of you are refusing to join a boycott is the very reason the boycott won't work. By being so pessimistic and unwilling about it, you're part of the problem. You proud of that?
That's the thing though, you're assuming there is a good reason to boycott. The OP's definition for what should be used as a boycott basis and my definition of what should be a boycott basis are not in sync. You can be condescending about that fact all you want but the bottom line is I'm going to go ahead and buy all the EA titles I want because I have no problem with what EA has done.

Granted, there are some who will agree with you and not boycott because of the reason you stated. I (and many others I'm sure based on what we've seen here) are not them.
 

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I've been boycotting EA ever since their last mudsliging campaign. However if certain Escapist members *glances meaningfully in SilverStrike's direction* who shall remain unnamed are any example, I'm guessing most gamers are too weak willed to follow through with this,
...the guy received a warning for this? That's some bullshit.

Every time I start to regain an ounce of respect for The Escapist, they have to reassure me that they don't deserve it.
 

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I will eventually buy and play ME3, no doubt about it. I have found a way to play my copy of ME1, and I'll find a way to play my copy of ME3, despite all the security precautions EA takes to make me stop playing.
 

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I'm boycotting Origin because it's a shit service, not because it's EA. At least EA doesn't treat all their paying customers like criminals, like Ubisoft. I'm boycotting them until they apologize for their crap DRM. Which will obviously never happen.
 

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tippy2k2 said:
Belated said:
Y'know people, the fact that so many of you are refusing to join a boycott is the very reason the boycott won't work. By being so pessimistic and unwilling about it, you're part of the problem. You proud of that?
That's the thing though, you're assuming there is a good reason to boycott. The OP's definition for what should be used as a boycott basis and my definition of what should be a boycott basis are not in sync. You can be condescending about that fact all you want but the bottom line is I'm going to go ahead and buy all the EA titles I want because I have no problem with what EA has done.

Granted, there are some who will agree with you and not boycott because of the reason you stated. I (and many others I'm sure based on what we've seen here) are not them.
While you explicitly stated that you have good reason not to do so, there are a number of people who have said "I would buy it doesn't work."
So you can go ahead and be condesending and aloof because He wasn't referring to you.
 

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Fuhjem said:
I, Fuhjem, am pledging henceforth to never buy a single game that EA has at any point put their hands on.

That means no Mass Effect 3 for me (and as anyone who knows me knows, I am a diehard fan of the ME series), no Battlefield 3, no Star Wars: The Old Republic, nothing EA is putting their filthy hands on.
they won't even care, and you'll miss the titles you wanted to play.
i say, pirate them. THAT, they'll notice, and get very angry about.
 

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dubious_wolf said:
tippy2k2 said:
Belated said:
Y'know people, the fact that so many of you are refusing to join a boycott is the very reason the boycott won't work. By being so pessimistic and unwilling about it, you're part of the problem. You proud of that?
That's the thing though, you're assuming there is a good reason to boycott. The OP's definition for what should be used as a boycott basis and my definition of what should be a boycott basis are not in sync. You can be condescending about that fact all you want but the bottom line is I'm going to go ahead and buy all the EA titles I want because I have no problem with what EA has done.

Granted, there are some who will agree with you and not boycott because of the reason you stated. I (and many others I'm sure based on what we've seen here) are not them.
While you explicitly stated that you have good reason not to do so, there are a number of people who have said "I would buy it doesn't work."
So you can go ahead and be condesending and aloof because He wasn't referring to you.
He stated "the fact that so many of you are refusing to join a boycott is the very reason the boycott won't work". I may have mis-interpreted him but that sounds like he's telling us that a boycott won't work because people won't join it.
 

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tippy2k2 said:
dubious_wolf said:
tippy2k2 said:
Belated said:
Y'know people, the fact that so many of you are refusing to join a boycott is the very reason the boycott won't work. By being so pessimistic and unwilling about it, you're part of the problem. You proud of that?
That's the thing though, you're assuming there is a good reason to boycott. The OP's definition for what should be used as a boycott basis and my definition of what should be a boycott basis are not in sync. You can be condescending about that fact all you want but the bottom line is I'm going to go ahead and buy all the EA titles I want because I have no problem with what EA has done.

Granted, there are some who will agree with you and not boycott because of the reason you stated. I (and many others I'm sure based on what we've seen here) are not them.
While you explicitly stated that you have good reason not to do so, there are a number of people who have said "I would buy it doesn't work."
So you can go ahead and be condesending and aloof because He wasn't referring to you.
He stated "the fact that so many of you are refusing to join a boycott is the very reason the boycott won't work". I may have mis-interpreted him but that sounds like he's telling us that a boycott won't work because people won't join it.
Hahaha! That's exactly what he (and I) said, yes!
 

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Frankly I agree with you, and judging by the amount of origin hate around, I daresay alot of the community here agrees to. But... I just cannot not play Mass Effect 3... I have come to far for the story to just end now. Also... I hate to say it but... In order to put a noticeable dent in EA's profits would require a boycott of massive proportions, and I am sorry to say, that since people are willing to boycott at the drop of a hat these days, it has unfortunately lost all meaning to people so it just makes a difficult task incredibly difficult. I agree that this is a just boycott, don't get me wrong, it's just unfortunately with the current attitude towards boycotts in general it is just not going to work.
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MidnightSt said:
Fuhjem said:
I, Fuhjem, am pledging henceforth to never buy a single game that EA has at any point put their hands on.

That means no Mass Effect 3 for me (and as anyone who knows me knows, I am a diehard fan of the ME series), no Battlefield 3, no Star Wars: The Old Republic, nothing EA is putting their filthy hands on.
they won't even care, and you'll miss the titles you wanted to play.
i say, pirate them. THAT, they'll notice, and get very angry about.
I feel a banstick coming on... Frankly though, this does not help the cause at all. If anything it will give EA an excuse to create even harsher DRM and restrictions.
 

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Fuhjem said:
Then continue to be fucked by EA.
I'm not making anyone stop.
I'm just asking so that EA may stop and listen for once.
HOW TO MAKE EA STOP AND LISTEN:

ONE: Wait for them to screw you over.

TWO: Complain to the Better Business Bureau.

THREE: Win.

WHY THIS WORKS: The BBB is where many investors go before investing in companies. A poor BBB rating may spell doom for a company, especially a heavily investor-run one.

I'm not sure that EA is heavily investor-run, but I DO know that they have a <link=http://www.bbb.org/greater-san-francisco/business-reviews/video-games-wholesale-and-manufacturers/electronic-arts-in-san-francisco-ca-64196>A+ rating, have received 768 complaints, and have satisfactorily responded to every single one. The BBB is very pro-customer, so "satisfactorily" either means that A. the customer was satisfied with the response, or B. the complainant was trolling.

My guess is that EA doesn't want to injure their A+, and will be as pleasant as they need to be. They'll take care of the Origin horror stories at some point, or else we're gonna see a big drop in that rating.

OT: No. When they release a game I like with terms I can work with, I will buy it, end of. EA has not personally ticked me off.
 

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Durgiun said:
You know, you could just pirate their games. Hit 'em where it hurts with a pair of spiked brass knuckles dipped in shit.
arnt boycotts suposed to be about the moral high ground?...

it will still be "piracy" not "piracy in the name of the boycott!!" therefore EA continue to complain about piracy and thats how you shit like Origin and DRM
 

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Ok! I'll stop buying EA Games! It will be difficult to live without them, but I know that...

...wait...

...I already don't buy EA games.

I'm good at this.

Poor people are good at boycotting.
 

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Durgiun said:
You know, you could just pirate their games. Hit 'em where it hurts with a pair of spiked brass knuckles dipped in shit.
And watch them adopt Ubisoft's DRM. Whether it works or not, they'll do it, if only out of spite. Viscous circle, anyone?

Besides, NO. STOP. SHUT THE TORRENT CLIENT. Oh, you won't? Then congratulations. You've demonstrated an interest in their game, giving them all the encouragement they need to continue EXACTLY what they're doing, and all YOU'VE done is contributed to their perceived "pirate problem" (which is rapidly becoming real) and screwed over a dev who did nothing to you. Screw you, sir. Screw you.
 

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ehh. I've been extremely reluctant to buy anything from EA since their buggy, bass-ackward excuse of an online registration system wouldn't let me play my copy of BF2.

I might wind up skipping ME and TOR. I want to know how the story goes, but there'll be a wiki at some point. Besides, TOR has all those companion books. And I'm not touching Origin with a ten foot pole and a hazmat suit, so there.
 

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dubious_wolf said:
tippy2k2 said:
dubious_wolf said:
tippy2k2 said:
Belated said:
Y'know people, the fact that so many of you are refusing to join a boycott is the very reason the boycott won't work. By being so pessimistic and unwilling about it, you're part of the problem. You proud of that?
That's the thing though, you're assuming there is a good reason to boycott. The OP's definition for what should be used as a boycott basis and my definition of what should be a boycott basis are not in sync. You can be condescending about that fact all you want but the bottom line is I'm going to go ahead and buy all the EA titles I want because I have no problem with what EA has done.

Granted, there are some who will agree with you and not boycott because of the reason you stated. I (and many others I'm sure based on what we've seen here) are not them.
While you explicitly stated that you have good reason not to do so, there are a number of people who have said "I would buy it doesn't work."
So you can go ahead and be condesending and aloof because He wasn't referring to you.
He stated "the fact that so many of you are refusing to join a boycott is the very reason the boycott won't work". I may have mis-interpreted him but that sounds like he's telling us that a boycott won't work because people won't join it.
Hahaha! That's exactly what he (and I) said, yes!
People, as in "everyone" won't join it. I won't join it because I disagree with the reasons and I think that EA has done nothing wrong. His post seems to be taking shots at everyone who won't join (including myself). Not because we disagree with the OP's view, but because we're pessimistic and think that it won't get anything done. Again, I may have not read his correctly and if he'd like to clarify his position, it's an open mic.

Your posts specifically call out people who are not joining due to thinking it won't matter so I had no problem with yours. That's why I didn't take a shot at your argument and why I took a shot at his.

If you do disagree with EA's practice, then I do agree that you have every right to boycott and attempt to make a change. Just don't expect all gamers to jump in behind you...
 

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Pandabearparade said:
I've been boycotting EA ever since their last mudsliging campaign. However if certain Escapist members *glances meaningfully in SilverStrike's direction* who shall remain unnamed are any example, I'm guessing most gamers are too weak willed to follow through with this,
...the guy received a warning for this? That's some bullshit.

Every time I start to regain an ounce of respect for The Escapist, they have to reassure me that they don't deserve it.
Calling out people randomly in a tangentially related thread to ridicule them doesn't sit well with staff OR posters. Remember, most mod wraths require a good chunk of readers to click "report".
 

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Durgiun said:
You know, you could just pirate their games. Hit 'em where it hurts with a pair of spiked brass knuckles dipped in shit.

Piracy is just piracy. "I'm pirating the product because I hate what you've done to it" doesn't make lick of sense