Sorry, I should've mentioned I mainly use Steam to get cheap deals, free games, or very old games which I can't find in stores. The rest of my games are only boxes I love boxes. And I'm not praising Steam. The way I see it, Origin is something put on top of my game, which may or may not allow me to play that game or all other games registered through it. I remember ranting about Steam a long time ago, but I like the current form.Frostbite3789 said:Steam does this...all the time. In fact I had to struggle with Steam Support for days to play my storebought copy of Dead Island because of a CD key problem.karamazovnew said:I've recently bought the Tiger Woods PGA 2012 game. When I saw "Origin" during installation, I clicked "DECLINE" and took the game back to the store. The ToS of the actual game differs from Origin's ToS. Having to use another service to play games I've bought in a store is annoying enough (Steam is different, since I buy the game through it), but having them changing the ToS of said service is... This is the first time I ever return a game to the store and I'll never touch an Origin title again.
So...to praise Steam on the one hand then slam Origin for something Steam does too is ridiculous.
Aren't you contradicting yourself now? EU forbids these lawsuits, but doesn't help in making them illegal? Okay?....albino boo said:Small but important point. Class actions, as used in the US, are not legal in the EU anyway. Class actions and US and parts of Canada only. So the EU, which in now going to cost Trillions not billions, does absolutely nothing.Shycte said:It might have costed us billions, but finaly someone who isn't a farmer can make use for EU. This is the happiest day of my life.Jaredin said:Aye, for once the EU comes through for us!theblackmonk90 said:Quite frankly i'm disgusted that the Supreme Court has stated this kind of corporate bullsh*t is enforceable. Thank God I live in the UK.
Good thing we still have people like you with a bit of common sense. I've been a Steam-fan for years, but that doesn't make me hate and bash Origin anything more. Heck, I used Origin a bit yesterday, just to download a demo and register some of my EA games (that I had bought on Steam) there. And although it wasn't the most polished piece of work I've used, the fact that I can't use a class action lawsuit against them didn't make my experience any worse.Frostbite3789 said:Steam does this...all the time. In fact I had to struggle with Steam Support for days to play my storebought copy of Dead Island because of a CD key problem.karamazovnew said:I've recently bought the Tiger Woods PGA 2012 game. When I saw "Origin" during installation, I clicked "DECLINE" and took the game back to the store. The ToS of the actual game differs from Origin's ToS. Having to use another service to play games I've bought in a store is annoying enough (Steam is different, since I buy the game through it), but having them changing the ToS of said service is... This is the first time I ever return a game to the store and I'll never touch an Origin title again.
So...to praise Steam on the one hand then slam Origin for something Steam does too is ridiculous.
I look at this and just think what reason is there to live in the US anymore? The landscape is moving towards corporate ownership, no consumer or worker rights. And the Right wing politicos want this. Yes the government has taxes just to screw you. Not to build roads hire firefighters/police, keep public order, pay civil servants and above all PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS. but government is bad business is good lets get rid of the government.There are some limitations; you're exempt from these restrictions if you happen to live in Quebec, Russia, Switzerland or the Member States of the European Union, which apparently take a dim view on allowing people to forfeit their legal rights with a blind click-through...
Heh. I'm from Norway and afaik you cant "sign away" your rights here either.Pipotchi said:Two thumbs up for living in a Member State of the EU, this wont mean anything to 99% of its users but its a worrying precedent
Well, for someone who already isn't a rich cattle farmer. Anyone who wasn't already making money or was a homemade-cheese maker got f*cked over.Shycte said:It might have costed us billions, but finaly someone who isn't a farmer can make use for EU. This is the happiest day of my life.Jaredin said:Aye, for once the EU comes through for us!theblackmonk90 said:Quite frankly i'm disgusted that the Supreme Court has stated this kind of corporate bullsh*t is enforceable. Thank God I live in the UK.