Don't know if it's been mentioned but the whole supporting gay rights thing was also pretty alright in my books...
NFL2K5 was a better game than Madden and then EA got exclusive rights. It's not that others can't make a better game, it's that they aren't allowed to make it at all.Legion said:While I am not really into them myself, they are pretty much the only company that creates decent sports games. So at least one section of the market has a lot to be thankful for.
your talking about EA here, on the valve headquarters forum. What did ya expect? Also this is gamer culture, where complaining comes first and whining comes second, and cheering comes in dead last...JenSeven said:I was hoping that people would post some fun or good games...
Guess there is still too much bad blood going around
Have it. I'm just pointing out a rare exception in which an EA game is good. They're still a shit company, of course.Sgt. Sykes said:Give the old RA2 a shot, it's really even more fun.FalloutJack said:Look umm, Red Alert 3 is pretty good. Me and my girlfriend like it, but uhhh....yeah, it's still a shit company.
These are "Gamers".JenSeven said:I was hoping that people would post some fun or good games...
Guess there is still too much bad blood going around
You said just about everything I was about to type as I read this thread. You are now my favorite person for having common sense and understanding how the world really works. Thank you sir.bug_of_war said:Overpricing games? I'm sorry, where are you from because every single EA game I have bought have been either on par or even cheaper than other video game titles. Mass Effect 3 cost me $78 on release, as opposed to Black Ops 2 ($99), Assassin's Creed 3 ($88), and Far Cry 3 ($90).As for the DLC, you could say they do produce excessive amounts, but if you don't want it, don't buy it. Same goes for micro-transactions, don't like it, don't use it, I didn't when I played Dead Space 3 and I enjoyed the hell out of that game. Always on DRM, sure, has it's issues, but EA aren't the only company doing so. Online passes, it's funny that you mention how transparent they are for removing this practice because of the Xbox One, you know, one of 3 possible consoles to play AAA games on. So in reality, PS4 and the Wii U users should be smiling, as no more online passes means that they will definitely get all the benefits of that practice.idarkphoenixi said:They still screw over consumers and employee's alike. Not to mention their unfortunate habit of buying up developers on the cheap, squeezing them dry and dumping the carcass as they move on.
Overpricing games, excessive DLC, microtransactions, always on drm, online passes (which they only removed because MS is basically doing it for them. So transparent, EA) The list goes on. Even I've enjoyed some games published by them (Published, remember that. Not developed) but that doesn't change what they are.
What they are is a very successful business, they're not suppose to be our friends, this is not a buddy relationship, this is a business transaction. Yes, you can very well complain when they do things wrong, I would think you'd be crazy not to, but to say that they're evil, horrible, terrible, blood thirsty, greedy is unfair. Hitler and Stalin were evil, the bank of America is evil, EA make business decisions in hopes of maximizing their profits so that they can make more games so that they can make more money. This isn't good, it isn't even bad, it's just life, and the world will keep spinning with or without one/all of us.
That pretty much sums up my opinion of EA.Sgt. Sykes said:Give the old RA2 a shot, it's really even more fun.FalloutJack said:Look umm, Red Alert 3 is pretty good. Me and my girlfriend like it, but uhhh....yeah, it's still a shit company.
Sometimes that is justified, though. I can't understand why it's apparently terrible to object to EA's business practices. Just because other companies have made bad choices too doesn't mean that EA should be above criticism, that's ludicrous. The reason that people get pissed off at EA is while they didn't necessarily pioneer stuff like microtransactions in full price games, or online passes, or day 1 DLC, they were clinging to it when other publishers were abandoning those practices. Don't get me wrong, all games companies should be beaten for their bad choices as equals, but just putting the issue down to gamers being unduly entitled (how dare I compain about a product I purchased...) is oversimplifying things.PxDn Ninja said:These are "Gamers".JenSeven said:I was hoping that people would post some fun or good games...
Guess there is still too much bad blood going around
If a company is successful at all in the games industry, they are labeled as 'the man' and must be evil. Valve is about the only company to have avoided this.
Just about every company out there has made both great and terrible games, as well as had great and terrible business ideas. EA, Activision, Blizzard, Take Two, Rockstar, Nintendo, Sega, Sony, the list goes on.
Oh, I'm all ok with disliking a company for business practices, I'm just pointing out the inherent hypocrisy within the gamer community when it comes to hating on the successful companies.Ben Saville said:Sometimes that is justified, though. I can't understand why it's apparently terrible to object to EA's business practices. Just because other companies have made bad choices too doesn't mean that EA should be above criticism, that's ludicrous. The reason that people get pissed off at EA is while they didn't necessarily pioneer stuff like microtransactions in full price games, or online passes, or day 1 DLC, they were clinging to it when other publishers were abandoning those practices. Don't get me wrong, all games companies should be beaten for their bad choices as equals, but just putting the issue down to gamers being unduly entitled (how dare I compain about a product I purchased...) is oversimplifying things.PxDn Ninja said:These are "Gamers".JenSeven said:I was hoping that people would post some fun or good games...
Guess there is still too much bad blood going around
If a company is successful at all in the games industry, they are labeled as 'the man' and must be evil. Valve is about the only company to have avoided this.
Just about every company out there has made both great and terrible games, as well as had great and terrible business ideas. EA, Activision, Blizzard, Take Two, Rockstar, Nintendo, Sega, Sony, the list goes on.
OT- Battlefield 2, Mirror's edge, C&C: Generals, C&C: Red Alert 2, Dungeon Keeper, Need for Speed... There are some truly great games that were developed/published by EA or under EA's banner. EA used to be the good guys in the games industry. That doesn't make up for the dumber business practices they've been endorsing, but EA used to be a great company.
Unless the thread starter was just trolling for badges, then the effort was spot on!PxDn Ninja said:The general feel is, whatever EA releases well is in spite of EA, what is poor is all EA's fault. This is expanded by many people not understanding how the industry works. Take the NFL exclusive license for example. EA got that license because the NFL was tired of competing games, and said they were going to limit the license to one company. EA took the chance to grab it. Thus, they are evil.
And this goes for every company. Activision has done some shady stuff, but they have released fantastic titles and terrible games as well. Even Valve has had their ups and downs. My point ultimately was that expecting a forum such as this to go "Yeah, I don't agree with some of what X company does, but they have done some pretty awesome stuff too," is a futile effort at best.