EA Gets Ready to Throw Down With Steam - UPDATED

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IKWerewolf said:
Can't argue with any of the statements. The trouble is it is Steam vs EA. EA constantly uses Perisistant online connection where as at most Steam uses one time sign in online to validate the copy, WIN to Steam.

EA is only just starting out with this project whereas Steam has expierience with this sort of process, WIN to Steam.

EA will only be dealing with one pulisher, i.e. themselves. Steam has a multi-publisher network varying from indie to major publishers, WIN to Steam

Valve enjoys taking innovative ideas and making them viable and giving Indie Game Firms the cruicial stepping stone into the industry, do you see EA doing this, WIN to Steam.

4-0 to Steam, the term "look out below" screams in my mind as EA sales plummet through the floor.
you do know that Steam was ones only Valve´s own games and non others right???
 

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I really don't think that this is going to work out very well for them. Steam has such an incredible monopoly on the digital distribution market, with tons and tons of very exciting titles at very good prices. The only concievable way that it could actually get anywhere above failure is if they have a number of high quality exclusive games, and that doesn't seem to be the case.
Also, there isn't really a need for a new service such as this. Steam works perfectly well and already has a massive backing. Did anybody really say to themselves "Hey, do you know what would make this perfectly fast and efficient virtual game buying experience a lot better? Doing it on a new experimental service with almost no interesting games or community following!"
 

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xsoenx said:
IKWerewolf said:
Can't argue with any of the statements. The trouble is it is Steam vs EA. EA constantly uses Perisistant online connection where as at most Steam uses one time sign in online to validate the copy, WIN to Steam.

EA is only just starting out with this project whereas Steam has expierience with this sort of process, WIN to Steam.

EA will only be dealing with one pulisher, i.e. themselves. Steam has a multi-publisher network varying from indie to major publishers, WIN to Steam

Valve enjoys taking innovative ideas and making them viable and giving Indie Game Firms the cruicial stepping stone into the industry, do you see EA doing this, WIN to Steam.

4-0 to Steam, the term "look out below" screams in my mind as EA sales plummet through the floor.
you do know that Steam was once only Valve´s own games and non others right???
True enough but look at Valves reputation and look at EAs and tell me who you'd rather partner up to distribute your game digitally? Ya it's Valve, EA is gonna have to really do something special too attract other developers and publishers to their service, since most of them see EA as competition.
 

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Fantastic, and sadly EA is a good position to get some business into it with upcoming releases including Mass Effect 3.

Now Not only will customers have to deal with a second and most likely terribly shitty service, it comes direct from the publisher. So all games will always be $60, sales will only ever be like 5-10% off, you must pay for additional months of download ability, and it will have some terrible form of DRM that forces you to leave origin open while playing games.

I am not a EA hater, nor a Steam fanboy, but I hope this fails hard. This type of shit is ruining competition, because instead of prices going down due to competition, they go up because of title exclusivity.

This is shitting all over the customer.
 

IndianaJonny

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Steam's recent announcement that they're now suppoorting some F2P titles just shows the kind of hard time EA are going to have levelling up against Steam's continued popularity/usefulness; but they do have some good titles of their own waiting in the wings.

9_6 said:
Ah good.
A major dumbass who thinks it's a briliant idea to wrap steam games -even demos- in additional layers of DRM won't be polluting steam with their games anymore.
Good riddance.

And yeah, good luck fighting windmills. Bloodthirsty windmills with chainsaws for fans.
Oh, nice Don Quixote reference there.
 

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Mr. Omega said:
On one hand, Steam needs competition.
I don't really think they do. The purpose of market competition is to keep prices low and supply plentiful. Steam already has low prices and supply isn't a problem with digital goods. But I could just be missing something
 

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I look forward to this change personally. While I believe it'll take 2-4 years for this Origin thing to get anywhere...I like the potential that other Steam competitors might bring to what is essentially a monopoly at this point.

I have nothing personal against Steam...but having other high end developers compete against them will likely be a good thing when its all said and done.
 

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Another disaster in the making. But EA is so full of themselves they can't even see how hard this is gonna fail. Either that or EA is gonna try shoving Origin down our throats until the bitter end. So much for customer service.
 

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the way they talk, not all ea games will be exclusive. just ones they think will be big, like crysis or battlefield 3. could bite them in the butt if they aren't careful. their download manager was a pain in the ass, from what i remember.
 

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Can't tell if they're covering their asses or if it's true that this is a Steam decision, not one of theirs. [http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20071213-1/updated-eas-crysis-2-new-alice-game-gone-from-steam/]
 

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Haha, i guess someone didn't really think through their actions. Origins is no match for Steam, both in terms of functionality and support from community.
 

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(If they offer the same high frequency deep discount deals as steam...) Wait a smidge I caught myself mid sentence being a moron. There will be no need for sales, or discounts, No Price war at all. There is no competition between dealers, because these bastards are just going to pull up all their games and keep them retail price permanently.

If steam had these games and origin had these games they could compete, but when only one store sells the cake you like you pay their prices, and This is EA here those guys are dicks and now they have more control.

I hate my beloved video games, industry.
 

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synobal said:
xsoenx said:
IKWerewolf said:
Can't argue with any of the statements. The trouble is it is Steam vs EA. EA constantly uses Perisistant online connection where as at most Steam uses one time sign in online to validate the copy, WIN to Steam.

EA is only just starting out with this project whereas Steam has expierience with this sort of process, WIN to Steam.

EA will only be dealing with one pulisher, i.e. themselves. Steam has a multi-publisher network varying from indie to major publishers, WIN to Steam

Valve enjoys taking innovative ideas and making them viable and giving Indie Game Firms the cruicial stepping stone into the industry, do you see EA doing this, WIN to Steam.

4-0 to Steam, the term "look out below" screams in my mind as EA sales plummet through the floor.
you do know that Steam was once only Valve´s own games and non others right???
True enough but look at Valves reputation and look at EAs and tell me who you'd rather partner up to distribute your game digitally? Ya it's Valve, EA is gonna have to really do something special too attract other developers and publishers to their service, since most of them see EA as competition.
synobal said:
xsoenx said:
IKWerewolf said:
Can't argue with any of the statements. The trouble is it is Steam vs EA. EA constantly uses Perisistant online connection where as at most Steam uses one time sign in online to validate the copy, WIN to Steam.

EA is only just starting out with this project whereas Steam has expierience with this sort of process, WIN to Steam.

EA will only be dealing with one pulisher, i.e. themselves. Steam has a multi-publisher network varying from indie to major publishers, WIN to Steam

Valve enjoys taking innovative ideas and making them viable and giving Indie Game Firms the cruicial stepping stone into the industry, do you see EA doing this, WIN to Steam.

4-0 to Steam, the term "look out below" screams in my mind as EA sales plummet through the floor.
you do know that Steam was once only Valve´s own games and non others right???
True enough but look at Valves reputation and look at EAs and tell me who you'd rather partner up to distribute your game digitally? Ya it's Valve, EA is gonna have to really do something special too attract other developers and publishers to their service, since most of them see EA as competition.
and Valve is not competition??? i myself is not supporting EA (since they force you to paid for half the stuff on your game disc and just buy-out companies that make a few good titles and then shut them down)but Steam was back in the day hated by many people because they didn´t wan´t to start another program up.
 

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EA can go fuck a china man's willy by this decision, its just so stupid that they thought this will succeed, I usually get a disk version of the games for one of my consoles if its a game I want or like, but also because I usually get online games for pc.
And taking game after game of yours off steam is not showing you can give yourself a fighting chance, your just giving people from steam to switch LESS of a reason to do so, and if you do not refund them, then its even MORE people that won't switch. I also don't think steam should have any competition, for the simple fact it would be like one, huge ass tent, where everyone can display their games for sale inside Valves tent, I think it would work under the right circumstances. But EA is going to feel the burn from this move, and it'll take a while to recover anyway.

babinro said:
I look forward to this change personally. While I believe it'll take 2-4 years for this Origin thing to get anywhere...I like the potential that other Steam competitors might bring to what is essentially a monopoly at this point.

I have nothing personal against Steam...but having other high end developers compete against them will likely be a good thing when its all said and done.
Yes, because I love having to open 20 different things to play certain games, and thats exactly what I want to do *sarcasm* Steam really doesn't need any competitors, because its more reliable to start with, and the additional fact that it would be like an art show, building is steam, and the art are games, each are put up for bid and sold inside the steam building, but the dev's are still getting money. It won't matter if every big giant stands up and does this, because most people don't have only one publisher / developer they only play games from, its just ruining the whole market of online sales for games over these services, because its a fucking hassle to log on [and sign up] to each and every one of them, get your games, and look at what game you will want to play. Even when said and done, it'll have the issue of having to log on and find every game you have through these , but also you will have to sign up through them, making any email full to the power of FUCK! I see plenty of way steam knock offs could fail in every way, early, to all said and done, and steam is mostly 3rd partied anyways, so having everyone take their games back for their own shops would kill steam and valve, the company that made many great games. And would you REALLY want to have to sign up / log into 7 or 8 other things to find and play your games, not counting if you lose a password and have to reset it?
 

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According to the statement from EA, EA had nothing to do with its removal:

"It's unfortunate that Steam has removed Crysis 2 from their service. This was not an EA decision or the result of any action by EA.

Steam has imposed a set of business terms for developers hoping to sell content on that service ? many of which are not imposed by other online game services. Unfortunately, Crytek has an agreement with another download service which violates the new rules from Steam and resulted in its expulsion of Crysis 2 from Steam.

Crysis 2 continues to be available on several other download services including Origin.com."
 

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I find it hilarious they actually think this will work. No, seriously.

They'll be back to Steam so fast it'll make their heads spin.


Edit: So Valve is the reason Crysis 2 was pulled. Oh well, doesn't change the facts that this will not work out for EA.
 

synobal

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drosalion said:
According to the statement from EA, EA had nothing to do with its removal:

"It's unfortunate that Steam has removed Crysis 2 from their service. This was not an EA decision or the result of any action by EA.

Steam has imposed a set of business terms for developers hoping to sell content on that service ? many of which are not imposed by other online game services. Unfortunately, Crytek has an agreement with another download service which violates the new rules from Steam and resulted in its expulsion of Crysis 2 from Steam.

Crysis 2 continues to be available on several other download services including Origin.com."
It's a pretty vague answer and I wouldn't be surprised if it was a load of BS.

What exactly was the violation? Was the agreement with EA to lower their price on the origin system, and not allow sales on steam? If so I can understand why Steam would remove the game. You don't want to sell a game for 60 bucks that Origin is selling for 30 and you're not allowed to lower the price on.
 

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Sean Strife said:
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaah... this idea's gonna tank. And tank horribly. They'll wind up going back to Steam once Origin fails miserably.
XD

Couldn't have put it better myself. Boy, EA sure must hate making money.