The plot thickens...and the Valve fanboys keep cheering on the monopoly while remembering EA is always evil of course.
Oh, my bad, i hit the part about 3 computers and stopped readingsynobal said:You missed this bit
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Ya I mean downloading a game takes at least 3 or 4 hours for me typically, and I'm not allowed to restart the download later with out using up 3 of my ten installs? It seems to me EA has put the cart in front of the horse. Get your DRM solution fixed and user friendly before you launch a digital distribution service. There was a reason why EADM didn't work it was because it sucked. Rebranding a turd still makes it a turd.Bonelord said:Oh, my bad, i hit the part about 3 computers and stopped readingsynobal said:You missed this bit
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Now in this case it is a truly fucked up system
THERE we go! Exactly the thing I was looking for. This can't possibly be considered an unreasonable request. I mean, it's possible that Steam could make the patch addition difficult, but what reads stronger to me is that EA are only committed to providing the best product to customers who deal exclusively with them. Which, of course, means that Steam removing the game from their lineup is perfectly reasonable, as keeping it implies they would otherwise be offering an inferior product through no fault of their own.synobal said:Valve refuses to sell a product that Crytek has signed a deal with EA to only support via them. So Sure Steam could sell Crysis 2 but the version they sell would be inferior to the one on Origin because it won't be getting bug fixes nor would it get any future DLC.
Steam's contract with developers pretty much says that when they release updates for a game they must provide steam with one as well. Since Crytek aren't doing that and have signed a deal with Origin not to they pulled the game.
Bottom line is EA tried to drive sales of Crysis 2 from Steam by ensuring that the game offered on steam was Buggier and wouldn't have future updates. Then when Steam refused to play their game they did a press release saying 'well Steam has evil contracts that keep developers from selling their game via other digital download services' which is patently untrue.
And Blizzard is wondering why most of South Korea is still sticking with the original Starcraft...Atmos Duality said:Taken from a purely-pragmatic point of view: Exclusives are exactly what EA needs to launch Origin.
What incentive do I have to play on EA's Origin when I can get it somewhere else without their bullshit attached to it? I can practically guarantee that it will be much more intrusive than Steamworks (based on EA's previous attempts at enforcing draconian DRM).
Also, it might not be up to Valve. EA owns the rights for licensing their published games. Unless they're already locked into a contract with Steam (with the appropriate inescapable clauses), they can choose who does and does not get to market their game on a First Sale Basis.
I agree that from a purely economic standpoint that EA should not limit sales to their new system, but at the same time they have just created their own conflict of interest in doing so, at least in comparison to Steam.
They may make an exception for Mass Effect 3, but certainly not for all of their future titles afterwards.
Perhaps a more appropriate comparison could be made to Blizzard's Battlenet 2.0, which sounds functionally similar to Origin.
Oh dear EA, i'm afraid you won't have me as a customer... this is the same issue i had with ME1, i'd installed it too many times on the same machine mind you, it was just that my machine at the time was abit unstable and also i did like replaying it quite abit, my copy is now ruined, i have to run a cracked .exe just to play a game i legally brought.synobal said:From The Origin Help section [http://help.origin.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2085/kw/activation%20limit]
So if you stop a game while it's downloading, you've used up one activation if you do this 3 times with in ten days of each other you have to wait at least ten days to finish downloading your games.QUESTION
I've received an error message on Origin, what does the error mean?
ANSWER
You may receive one of the following error messages if you have reached the maximum amount of times your game can be downloaded through Origin:
For security reasons, you are allowed # concurrently active licenses. This limit has been reached. Please wait until one of the other licenses auto-expires, then try again.
License response error: '78008,Max machine lifetime entitlement met:#
Error: 10000:78008
Every time the download button is clicked, a download count will be added to your lifetime total. If you have installed your game via Origin on more than three computers within a ten day period, you will need to wait until the first installation expires.
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That's nuts if you ask me. I've stopped downloading huge games many times on steam because I wanted to stream a movie or download a patch for WoW or what ever.
The problem is it won't fail. If horrible things like GFWL still exist I can't imagine this will die.Sean Strife said:Yeaaaaaaaaaaaah... this idea's gonna tank. And tank horribly. They'll wind up going back to Steam once Origin fails miserably.
If Origins winds up costing EA more money than they're making from it: they'll cut it. Keep in mind: EA is a corporation, and corporations are ALL about money, no exceptions.archvile93 said:The problem is it won't fail. If horrible things like GFWL still exist I can't imagine this will die.Sean Strife said:Yeaaaaaaaaaaaah... this idea's gonna tank. And tank horribly. They'll wind up going back to Steam once Origin fails miserably.
Agreed, Steam is the standard now for what any would be online distributor should aiming for and be looking to surpass. I don't see EA being a company that can beat Valve for bargains and customer service.nebrius said:To everyone saying "but Steam was crappy when it first came out too, so don't be so hard on Origin". Yes Steam sucked at first (I remember swearing to never use it either back in the HL1 days). But the comparison isn't really valid simply because Steam didn't have any competition to be compared with, Origin does. It's like the iPhone...it sucked when it first came out, but had no competition and did well. Windows Phone 7 also sucked when it first came out, but had iOS and Android as competition, and it's not doing very well. It may not be fair, but Origin will have to compete with Steam quickly or it will fail.
Reading the update to this story: absolutely nothing.Amondren said:Ok I really need a answer for this...Whats going to happen to my precious Mass Effect game and Dragon Age. I don't own the box just the digital download.
For future games most likely.moose_man said:Wait, what about Bioware games!? Do I have to download this Origin shit to play Bioware games?!
Well, since TOR is a Bioware game, yes. You do. We can only hope that ME3 is still available through Steam.moose_man said:Wait, what about Bioware games!? Do I have to download this Origin shit to play Bioware games?!