EA Hosting Panel on Homophobia in Gaming

Baby Tea

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That Dude With A Face said:
They aren't denied from playing for being gay. Its just a special interest group, thinking that they deserve special privileges for being different.
What are you talking about? Special privileges? Like what? Noting being ridiculed for their sexual orientation? Which is, by the way, part of every terms of use for online games (Namely XBL and PSN).

So other people break the rules, they complain to get fair treatment, and you say we shouldn't 'cater' to them?
You can't be serious.
 

squid5580

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They have provided a safe enviroment for every race, nationality and sexual preference. There is anonimity and there is this little thing called the mute button. Heck on XBL you can even block communication. People online don't need to know your sexual preference. You don't walk into a crowd of strangers and holler "I am (insert sexual preference here) deal with it" so why should the internet be any different? And if you are going to announce your lifestyle choice to the world like it matters to anyone but you, you best be prepared for people not to like or agree with it. If you paint a target on your back people will take shots.

I don't understand why gay people figure they are above the laws of simple social etiquette.
 

John Funk

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That Dude With A Face said:
Unbelievable. This makes me sick! Why are we catering to certain groups of people? Just because they complain, then we have to make "special" rules for them? I'm not just talking about queers, I'm talking about anyone: Religions, nationalities, races, etc. No special treatment, and no conferences to discuss how we should cater to the needs of these groups who think that they are some-how more special than the rest of us.

I better end this rant before i get the moderators called on me, but it really pisses me off when ignorant stuff like this happens.
I suggest you rethink your definition of ignorant before you start going on a tirade about how great it is to be an oppressed and extremely disenfranchised minority group.
 

Anton P. Nym

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That Dude With A Face said:
I'm talking about anyone: Religions, nationalities, races, etc. No special treatment, and no conferences to discuss how we should cater to the needs of these groups who think that they are some-how more special than the rest of us.
I believe that's their point; no special treatment, no being used as a slur, no being harassed at every turn. For everyone, not just WASP males aged 14-34.

Frankly, one thing driving me out of the online game community is the rampant bigotry and incredible idiocy on it... and if GLAAD and EA can help get rid of that crap, so much the better for everyone and not just gays.

-- Steve
 

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NoMoreSanity said:
EA, stop being so schizophrenic. One moment you're releasing sequel after sequel, the next you're actually doing something good for the gay community.
This makes no sense. How is that schizo? They aren't contradicting themselves or switching sides, so how is that schizo?
In other news, the gamers' alliance clamps down on the use of derogatory words implying mental illness: "retarded", "schizo", etc.

In the buggy-but-pretty-good RPG "Temple of Elemental Evil", you could actually marry a gay pirate called Bertram if you were playing a male character. Come to think of it, you can do this in a lot of RPGs.

Now if you were trying to make characters in games less needlessly misogynistic (one of the very many things that annoyed me about FPS crapfest F.E.A.R) then I'd agree.
What characters were (needlessly) misogynistic in FEAR?
Plus, "crapfest" seems a little strong. To me it's one of the best single player FPSs.
 

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I never liked GLAAD. Maybe if they would shut the hell up and stop forcing their views down our throats 24/7, I would tolerate them. But they don't, so I don't
 

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This has turned into a real hate-train. It won't affect anybody at all, yet we somehow over-react when all it is is that a minority wants to be discriminated against less.

What's wrong with the conference? A group of people get bullied for no reason when they payed for a service. So shouldn't they be able to use it like every other person?
 

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I'm not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing, I mean, Homophobia is still a problem (even though people say that it's getting better, it doesn't feel like it is, I still suffer from homophobic bullying in everyday life), but then again I have no idea how bad it is online, as I never play online (or at least hardly ever), so I don't know, it could be really bad and people could be getting bombarded with message saying "U FAG" or something, or it could just be some guy going "GUYS, I'M GAY" over the mic on online games and annoying the heck out of people.
I can't judge as I don't know what it's like.

Something just seems like EA are doing this... well, so they look good or something like that.
 

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"Safe spaces for LGBT people online?" Are they going to set up homosexual only game servers?
 

Anton P. Nym

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Anton P. Nym said:
Frankly, one thing driving me out of the online game community is the rampant bigotry and incredible idiocy on it... and if GLAAD and EA can help get rid of that crap, so much the better for everyone and not just gays.
Macgyvercas said:
I never liked GLAAD. Maybe if they would shut the hell up and stop forcing their views down our throats 24/7, I would tolerate them. But they don't, so I don't
And people wonder why folks at EA are hosting a panel on this.

*sigh*

-- Steve
 

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DrunkWithPower said:
I... really don't get it. Either I'm blind to blatant homophobia in games or it's so little it's pratically not there. The gamers themselves I can see because, well, every other word I hear is a gay slur.
I think it's more to do with the gaming community (players) rather than the games.
 

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Erm, ok, here's the problem. I think that gay people are being a little to sensitive here. I mean, if you are talking about things like your sexual preference, religious or political views, or any such characteristic about yourself on a online game, you are not playing the game. I do not play a game of Halo to debate Obama's policies. If I want to talk about stuff like that, I talk to the gamers I actually know, have played with for a while, and find myself calling online friends. The people who I talk with the subjects online on are people I often play with and usually talk to on a daily basis. If you find yourself in a game of Halo saying you are gay, you are just asking for someone to tell you off. Let me explain. If you were gay, and had just met someone in real life, would one of the first things you say to them be 'I'm gay, just so you know, I'm gay'. No. Now turn this the other way, say someone you just met immediatly stated they were gay to you like that. Would you not feel like that subject was pushed onto you and in a quite rude manner. The only time I really see that topics like this should come up is in a natural way of conversation, not automatically forced out into the open to have people start making judgements. That way prejudices can not be made on a person without getting to know them on a personal level, instead of a shallow one.

Rephrased:

Erg, that rant came out a little bit longer and messier then I had hoped but the ending point is still there. And upon rereading I'm sorry that I jumped around all over the place. My basic point is that subjects like this are not meant to be talked about in front of strangers. They are meant to be talked about with people you know and like. If someone came up to me and started saying how much they believed in God and stuff like that, I would start makings judgements against them and probably not want to talk to them anymore. It alienates people and puts judgements and ideas in a person's head that may not be true. If I got to know someone on a personal level, and actually had a friendship of some form starting with a person, their religious, sexual, and politcal views would have less of an impact on me and it would be much harder for someone to have prejudice against the other for it.
 

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Really, this is stupid.
So what if some gamers make fun of gays? We live in a free country and For them to do something about this "problem" they are going to have to add censors, which are a BAD THING. I do not want my internet censored.
Do you think if it was the other way around, and the gays were making fun of straight people, that the totally PC people would do anything about it? Of course not.
I am all for treating everyone equally, but that means NOT giving them special treatment. We should be able to make fun of straights, gays, and bis all with equal impunity.
On a side note, if you are gay, why go announcing it over the chat? You have to know what is coming.
Okay, that is my rant. I hope it doesn't inflict mod wrath.
 

Jimmyjames

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That Dude With A Face said:
Unbelievable. This makes me sick! Why are we catering to certain groups of people? Just because they complain, then we have to make "special" rules for them? I'm not just talking about queers, I'm talking about anyone: Religions, nationalities, races, etc. No special treatment, and no conferences to discuss how we should cater to the needs of these groups who think that they are some-how more special than the rest of us.

I better end this rant before i get the moderators called on me, but it really pisses me off when ignorant stuff like this happens.
Wow, "ignorant"? Pot, meet kettle.

I really don't think educating people about abuse and defamation is catering to a select group. I can't COUNT how many times I see people calling other people "fag" online. I think it's an effort to acknowledge that gay and lesbian people don't deserve to be called names by moronic teens that don't actually have to face who they're insulting.
 

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Macgyvercas said:
I never liked GLAAD. Maybe if they would shut the hell up and stop forcing their views down our throats 24/7, I would tolerate them. But they don't, so I don't
Yeah, I'm sure the there isn't a day that goes by in which GLAAD isn't knocking down your door shoving pamphlets in your face.
 

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I have no love for GLAAD, and I fail to see what they plan to achieve simply by segregating homosexuals from others. I'm also curious why we don't have segregation and rights orginiazations for jews, or christens, or women. It's not like they get any less abuse on Xbox live than homosexuals.

If they can stop the use of homophobic slurs on live, then fine. But they can't, super strict regulations would remove a massive part of lives paying population. Which while great, will never be allowed to happen. All that's left is to give minorities special privileges. Which is deftly avoiding the problem. Which brings up the questions, "Why don't they care about all the other minorities that get abuse hurled at them all the time?"

Equal rights and hopefully tighter moderation of inflammatory abuse overall is about as far as actual new regulations should go.