EA on women in Battlefield V; "If you don't like it, don't buy it"

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https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/271407-ea-on-the-battlefield-v-backlash-accept-it-or-dont-buy-the-game

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It's a fantasized version of WWII. It's just a game. Why do you care so much about the women in the game?
 

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And the frustrated cries from impotent neckbeards were heard around the world.
 

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An army might have refused to hire female soldiers(that they knew were female anyway). But to pretend women never fought in WW2 is crazy, some factions did use women soldiers and theres also the fact that not everybody fighting in WW2 was in the army, during war random people can just show up with guns and start attacking your enemy, be they part of a political group militia or resistance fighters.

Go look at the Ukraine and its random pockets of nationalist groups unaffiliated with their military fighting to this day.

Is it so crazy to think a woman might have picked up their dead husbands hunting rifle and gone to fight in the resistance after their country is occupied?
 

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I?m glad they are sticking to their guns and not trying to find an apologetic middle ground. The outcry over this was absolutely absurd and deserves to be treated as such
 

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That?s fair: either it matter to bugger all players and sells fine or they truly draw a line in the sand and the game fails. Suits me fine.
 

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Fieldy409 said:
An army might have refused to hire female soldiers(that they knew were female anyway). But to pretend women never fought in WW2 is crazy, some factions did use women soldiers and theres also the fact that not everybody fighting in WW2 was in the army, during war random people can just show up with guns and start attacking your enemy, be they part of a political group militia or resistance fighters.

Go look at the Ukraine and its random pockets of nationalist groups unaffiliated with their military fighting to this day.

Is it so crazy to think a woman might have picked up their dead husbands hunting rifle and gone to fight in the resistance after their country is occupied?
the French resistance had several woman figthing with them. Russia had like 800k women in the army, in almost every corps, and more than a few actually fought on the field, or in the air force
 

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Make your choice, make it the right one, and stick to your guns. Wow, way to go... EA? Wow, its been since before they killed Bullfrog that I've said anything positive about EA. Good lord, that was 19 years ago! They've killed 13 or 14 studios since then. I know we'll find out it was easier, or they put the option in and then couldn't bother taking it back out again... somehow it will have been a decision based on making it easier or cheaper or some other bottom line reason. But still EA does something right. Well; broken watch, right time of day I guess.
 

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Yeah, color me impressed by EA for once, in a good way.

I feel dirty now.

I'm sure they'll find a way to ruin this moment pretty soon, probably by announcing that Bioware will make nothing but Candy Crush clones.
 

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Yeah, good on EA for waving off this nonsense. The charge that women in WWII combat are not realistic fails both on the counts of being false and of having little bearing on what should go into a battlefield game since battlefield can and should prioritise other factors over realism.
 

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"If you don't hate women, show it by buying lots of cosmetics to customize the ultimate Historically Accurate Riot Grrl irregular! Or GTFO, troll!"

So enlightened!
 

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StatusNil said:
"If you don't hate women, show it by buying lots of cosmetics to customize the ultimate Historically Accurate Riot Grrl irregular! Or GTFO, troll!"

So enlightened!
Indeed, when the strawmanned statement is still less insulting than the actual statements of people who are upset at seeing a female in the game.
 

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Dunno, if I cared at all about Battlefield, I'd think female members of the French Resistance would make a fine addition to the roster. Especially if they were as cool and beret-wearing as Michelle from Allo Allo:


"Listen to me carefully, I shall say zis only once!"

That Cockney steampunk cyborg though, I can see why people who want to play aesthetically consistent war could be let down. Me, I've never played any Battlefield, so it was always unlikely I would buy this one no matter what. Unless, of course, to pwn the SJWs. But they played that one drastically wrong.
 

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Gones are the days when WW2 games were all about Men fighting and defending. now for companies like EA. they are doing everything to apease feminist by making historically inaccurate.

WW2 games gone from COD1, 2 MOH allied assault to a game where a female character on cover.

if they want to make female character focus game. they can. but dont force it into WW2 game.

also after battlefront 2. i dont expect anything good from DICE. they are just one of the worst AAA developer today.
 

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That's how it works; you like something? You but it. Unless you have no money, then you steal it or steal money to but it.

You don't like it? Well, go online and complain about it or something as if you were going to but it but can't now and everything is the worst because of it. Because women that aren't your mum or idolised sex object shouldn't exist in your entertainment without ten pages of detailed justification for how and why, but will be dismissed either way.

I like it, but I ain't going to but it. Not until a "complete" edition exists and I've stolen enough money that isn't for the other awkward addictions of food and bills.
 

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B-Cell said:
Gones are the days when WW2 games were all about Men fighting and defending. now for companies like EA. they are doing everything to apease feminist by making historically inaccurate.

WW2 games gone from COD1, 2 MOH allied assault to a game where a female character on cover.

if they want to make female character focus game. they can. but dont force it into WW2 game.

also after battlefront 2. i dont expect anything good from DICE. they are just one of the worst AAA developer today.
If you gave a shit about historical accuracy, you were playing the wrong genre. If you actually gave a shit about historical accuracy, you'd be more concerned about the Churchill Gun Carrier tank in the trailer. Which literally never saw combat. Ever. But you don't actually care about historical accuracy outside of incredibly shallow historical accuracy do you?

But please tell me more about historical accuracy in a genre where you can accurately shoulder fire a MG-42.



StatusNil said:
"If you don't hate women, show it by buying lots of cosmetics to customize the ultimate Historically Accurate Riot Grrl irregular! Or GTFO, troll!"

So enlightened!
https://www.iowansforlife.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/straw-man-meme.jpg
 

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Good, glad to see a company sticking by their guns to make the game they want to make, you know that thing Gamergate pretended to care about when it was softcore titty porn in an action game and literally no other time?

Frankly I just really wish every single game franchise at E3 would reveal the next game had a female lead or it was rebooted with a female lead or it suddenly includes a diverse cast, like not a single grizzled gunbro in sight. So that all these angry emotionally unstable petulant little shits who whine about stuff like this would all collectively decide to boycott every single game that ever existed, thus gaming can fumigate its beligerant asshole population in one fell swoop and in the aftermath everyone else can just go back to playing and innovating and new kinds of stories can get made.

Sure we lose half but the half that survives knows nothing but full game libraries, diverse casts and clear online forums with nary an alt right meme in sight.

Perfectly balanced... as all things should be

Smithnikov said:
StatusNil said:
"If you don't hate women, show it by buying lots of cosmetics to customize the ultimate Historically Accurate Riot Grrl irregular! Or GTFO, troll!"

So enlightened!
Indeed, when the strawmanned statement is still less insulting than the actual statements of people who are upset at seeing a female in the game.
Yeah but since we are allowed to strawman now, let's all just create the strawman reaction to announcements like this.

It's relatively easy, all you need is a hell of a lot of 'cuck' and 'soy' and 'get back in the kitchen' and 'women should be our sex slaves' and 'something something black men having sex with white women' and 'I'm an alpha male because I say so! I'm secure, really!!' and the rest writes itself.

Except that's not a strawman, that's literally how they talk.

And seriously if anyone thinks people don't act like that I invite them to go to literally any youtube comment section of the trailer for Gears of War 5.
 

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erttheking said:
B-Cell said:
Gones are the days when WW2 games were all about Men fighting and defending. now for companies like EA. they are doing everything to apease feminist by making historically inaccurate.

WW2 games gone from COD1, 2 MOH allied assault to a game where a female character on cover.

if they want to make female character focus game. they can. but dont force it into WW2 game.

also after battlefront 2. i dont expect anything good from DICE. they are just one of the worst AAA developer today.
If you gave a shit about historical accuracy, you were playing the wrong genre. If you actually gave a shit about historical accuracy, you'd be more concerned about the Churchill Gun Carrier tank in the trailer. Which literally never saw combat. Ever. But you don't actually care about historical accuracy outside of incredibly shallow historical accuracy do you?

But please tell me more about historical accuracy in a genre where you can accurately shoulder fire a MG-42.
It's historically accurate because manly men do manly things. If YOU cant shoot an MG-42 from your shoulder, you're just not manly enough. Have you tried eating a bloody steak? Maybe telling a woman to get back in the kitchen?


Actually though, anyone who is legitimately finding themselves on B-Cell's side of any argument involving women, should re-assess their life choices.
 

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sgy0003 said:
https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/271407-ea-on-the-battlefield-v-backlash-accept-it-or-dont-buy-the-game

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It's a fantasized version of WWII. It's just a game. If you don't like it, don't but it
That?s twice...is your auto correct on a bender?

Anyways, surprised to hear EA would risk losing sales by standing up for something greater than their balance sheet.