EA Pulls A Fast One WIth Battlefield 3
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Custom servers should in theory give players the ability to play how they want and for the large part they seem to do that in my experience on the PC. The time I spent on TF2 and BF3 was made much more enjoyable by the various tweaks the admins put in place on their servers.
Yet somehow as soon as this power is given to the unwashed console masses it all goes to hell. Now this either suggests that DICE hasn't done a good job implementing the server finding functionality or that there are intrinsic differences between console and PC gamers. I'm thinking it's a bit of both.
As such I don't think it's fair to label this as an inherently bad move by DICE, akin to online passes or DRM. Just that that the execution of it was poor. The only 'fast one' they're pulling is that they're still charging for online passes.
If they added better search functionality so that you could reliably find the official servers or servers running "vanilla" BF3 then I think that would solve nearly all of the complaining. Maybe the number of people playing custom servers would drop, then again maybe it wouldn't. Think about it, if the only servers you can find are custom servers then maybe it's because the majority of gamers want what those servers have to offer.
Yet somehow as soon as this power is given to the unwashed console masses it all goes to hell. Now this either suggests that DICE hasn't done a good job implementing the server finding functionality or that there are intrinsic differences between console and PC gamers. I'm thinking it's a bit of both.
As such I don't think it's fair to label this as an inherently bad move by DICE, akin to online passes or DRM. Just that that the execution of it was poor. The only 'fast one' they're pulling is that they're still charging for online passes.
If they added better search functionality so that you could reliably find the official servers or servers running "vanilla" BF3 then I think that would solve nearly all of the complaining. Maybe the number of people playing custom servers would drop, then again maybe it wouldn't. Think about it, if the only servers you can find are custom servers then maybe it's because the majority of gamers want what those servers have to offer.
Console games aren't PC games. You've entirely missed the point.mindlesspuppet said:
This.bjj hero said:
They ran the central servers and their official servers, charged people $10 for online. Now they run the central servers and rent their official servers out for many times the price a PC server host rents servers... and they're still charging $10 for online.NLS said:
I always thought that the LIVE Gold membership was supposed to pay for the whole "online" thing...
As far as finding vanilla servers...it's hell. Whenever I search there's an official server once every 5-10 pages or so, hidden between all the 500% ticket games handgun and knife only! Karhg Island 24/7! If you search for DICE you get a lot of people putting that in their title, some trying to perfectly imitate the appearance of a DICE server.
Let's ignore the insanity of someone wanting to pay for a server that's normally free, and move on to the real kicker: when you search for a term, the rest of your search parameters don't apply. Not only do you get every game type, but every region. When I first tried searching for DICE, I thought the newest patch caused the game to become laggy as hell. Turns out, playing on European servers makes the game really laggy. So even searching DICE, you still need to select the servers, one by one, to make sure you're not connecting to something halfway around the world...In addition to fanning through pages looking for the proper game type.
Yes, there are favorites. However, anytime I add a vanilla server to my list, whenever I look at my favorite list all the official servers are full, and I can only have 1 page of favorites. It's not that there are custom servers, it's that it seems EA purposely made it aggravating to get into a vanilla game so the people buying servers get their money worth. They've found a way to make money at the cost of other people's enjoyment of the game.
I don't care how things work on PC, because that's not the experience I want. Skyrim I got for PC, because the whole appeal of that game is modding everything. BF3 I got for console, because it's harder to cheat, I dislike the twitch gaming when you have pixel-perfect mouse aiming, and I absolutely refused to put Origin on my computer.
Here's the biggest issue for me: I used to have 6 people that would play BF3. They stopped. One of my friends said it's like a different game than the one he bought...he used to think that BF3 was the best shooter on the market, and now he's done with it. Telling him "this is how the PC does it" isn't going to make him suddenly decide that he must have been having fun the whole time. We got the game, on a certain platform, for a certain experience. That experience simply isn't as good as it used to be.
As far as finding vanilla servers...it's hell. Whenever I search there's an official server once every 5-10 pages or so, hidden between all the 500% ticket games handgun and knife only! Karhg Island 24/7! If you search for DICE you get a lot of people putting that in their title, some trying to perfectly imitate the appearance of a DICE server.
Let's ignore the insanity of someone wanting to pay for a server that's normally free, and move on to the real kicker: when you search for a term, the rest of your search parameters don't apply. Not only do you get every game type, but every region. When I first tried searching for DICE, I thought the newest patch caused the game to become laggy as hell. Turns out, playing on European servers makes the game really laggy. So even searching DICE, you still need to select the servers, one by one, to make sure you're not connecting to something halfway around the world...In addition to fanning through pages looking for the proper game type.
Yes, there are favorites. However, anytime I add a vanilla server to my list, whenever I look at my favorite list all the official servers are full, and I can only have 1 page of favorites. It's not that there are custom servers, it's that it seems EA purposely made it aggravating to get into a vanilla game so the people buying servers get their money worth. They've found a way to make money at the cost of other people's enjoyment of the game.
I don't care how things work on PC, because that's not the experience I want. Skyrim I got for PC, because the whole appeal of that game is modding everything. BF3 I got for console, because it's harder to cheat, I dislike the twitch gaming when you have pixel-perfect mouse aiming, and I absolutely refused to put Origin on my computer.
Here's the biggest issue for me: I used to have 6 people that would play BF3. They stopped. One of my friends said it's like a different game than the one he bought...he used to think that BF3 was the best shooter on the market, and now he's done with it. Telling him "this is how the PC does it" isn't going to make him suddenly decide that he must have been having fun the whole time. We got the game, on a certain platform, for a certain experience. That experience simply isn't as good as it used to be.
As someone who regularly plays the Metro 5000 ticket conquest servers, I can so I really don't mind that much.
Sometimes I'm a little irked by servers that ban sniper rifles, I get around it with this kind of tactic. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AFPGc15bn8]
"Remember kids: recon is for pussies!"
Sometimes I'm a little irked by servers that ban sniper rifles, I get around it with this kind of tactic. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AFPGc15bn8]
"Remember kids: recon is for pussies!"
They should do like Team Fortress 2, so when you use the quick connect feature you'll only join 'vanilla' servers.
If you want to join a custom server THEN you have to rummage through the server list to find what tickles your fancy.
Granted, I'm not a console player (Or even a BF3/CoD player) but user-run servers can often be a great thing, opening up a lot of new gamemodes and playstyles.
If you want to join a custom server THEN you have to rummage through the server list to find what tickles your fancy.
Granted, I'm not a console player (Or even a BF3/CoD player) but user-run servers can often be a great thing, opening up a lot of new gamemodes and playstyles.
I think the main issue is the asshats that run the servers booting people. I play on PC and have no issue with the servers having different rules but from the sounds of it there are people just being booted for being good which ruins the fun and it isn't something that I have encountered on PC.SecondPrize said:
The 10$ is a one time fee, and not even existent if you bought the game new. Server maintenance costs are recurring costs to EA. Yes, they might be trying to cash in on hungry console-gamers, but in the long run, those 10$ won't be enough to cover all costs.Dryk said:
Sadly, that's exactly the case. Instead of "provide the best gaming experience so we can keep our customers" it's now "chute 'em and shear 'em".RvLeshrac said:
The answer to that is simple - don't sell the same server TWICE. That's what they're doing with both online passes and renting out servers.Hitchmeister said:
There's a lawsuit in here, I bet.
This is why you look for a server named "original" or something along the lines. Just look for the original rules and take that. Seriously, people ***** and moan about this game more than MW3.
I don't angry over battlefield being hated or complained about. It's little things that apparently are a big deal that make me angry.
Besides, some guns are overpowered or cheap, that is why they are banned in player owned servers.
Capcha: get over it
I don't angry over battlefield being hated or complained about. It's little things that apparently are a big deal that make me angry.
Besides, some guns are overpowered or cheap, that is why they are banned in player owned servers.
Capcha: get over it