EA, Sony and Nintendo Withdraw SOPA Support - UPDATED
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I understood that Nintendo wants to support some anti-piracy thingy, but I never could understand why SOPA in the form as it is.
Nintendo's games where the most pirated (right after the PC version, but I don't think that I need to write that, do I?). Mario galaxy 2 was 3 times more pirated than the most pirated xbox 360 game. 3 out of the top 5 pirated Wii games where Nintendo first party titles. Those are some big potential loses, but still not heavy enough for SOPA IMHO.
I have a feeling that N. was just desperate for SOME anti piracy laws, so they jumped on the first thing that came, without really thinking.
But Sony... why the fuck does Sony support something like the SOPA? They had like no potential loses compared to the other 3 platforms. Everything they lost was because of their retarded decisions.
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Yeah, I just remembered that Sony has more than just the PS3. Sony is also into music. lol
Nevermind. They also had some reasons to support some anti-piracy laws... but still... same as Nintendo, they shouldn't support SOPA as it is.
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I just hope that they withdraw because they realized it's bad, not because of the thing that happened with GoDaddy.
@Akimoto
They don't really need to have a direct impact on other servers outside their country.
Just enough to have Google blacklist your site (which they have to because google is in the USA.
If that's not enough, US citizen won't be able to see your site, and no matter what people think, the US is a HUGE country with many people using the internet. Unless your site is just some local site, it will be affected by less visitors.
There is also the problem with ads. Less ads, less visitors, lower overall income. Less profitable sites. Many sites will have problems with keeping them self up, not to speak about some profit.
There is also the problem that most country's leaders are just some bunch of idiots who follow everything that the USA says and does. They will, sooner or later, make the same shit.
Nintendo's games where the most pirated (right after the PC version, but I don't think that I need to write that, do I?). Mario galaxy 2 was 3 times more pirated than the most pirated xbox 360 game. 3 out of the top 5 pirated Wii games where Nintendo first party titles. Those are some big potential loses, but still not heavy enough for SOPA IMHO.
I have a feeling that N. was just desperate for SOME anti piracy laws, so they jumped on the first thing that came, without really thinking.
[EDIT]
Yeah, I just remembered that Sony has more than just the PS3. Sony is also into music. lol
Nevermind. They also had some reasons to support some anti-piracy laws... but still... same as Nintendo, they shouldn't support SOPA as it is.
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I just hope that they withdraw because they realized it's bad, not because of the thing that happened with GoDaddy.
@Akimoto
They don't really need to have a direct impact on other servers outside their country.
Just enough to have Google blacklist your site (which they have to because google is in the USA.
If that's not enough, US citizen won't be able to see your site, and no matter what people think, the US is a HUGE country with many people using the internet. Unless your site is just some local site, it will be affected by less visitors.
There is also the problem with ads. Less ads, less visitors, lower overall income. Less profitable sites. Many sites will have problems with keeping them self up, not to speak about some profit.
There is also the problem that most country's leaders are just some bunch of idiots who follow everything that the USA says and does. They will, sooner or later, make the same shit.
One of the main flaws in the plan is, in fact, feasibility. And once again, that is entirely in line with the Project Star Wars analogy. Not to say that in this case the technology isn't ready for it. It's that they {A} don't personally know how to do it and {B} haven't really got the manpower and the resources for it. The internet is HUGE, like another universe. It's insane to pull something like this.Akimoto said:
Sony needs to wake up and smell the coffee... and EA should just BURN, and all the sub-companies of EA should just move to Activation, (Call of Duty: Battle Field,DoomSpace).
They still have feet?RaikuFA said:
But seriously folks, GoDaddy hasn't dropped it's support at all. They're just being more quiet about it.
The only thing that really matters is the support of the corporations into the politician's campaigns.
The sad part is we can't boycott everyone involved because then we'd be boycotting videogames. But hopefully after the Go Daddy backlash was so severe it won't get any more supporters than it already has. Just gotta keep raising hell about it. Best way for the corporations to win is to have it turn into just some bill passed through congress that nobody cares about like the most of them. Can't let people forget about it.
The sad part is we can't boycott everyone involved because then we'd be boycotting videogames. But hopefully after the Go Daddy backlash was so severe it won't get any more supporters than it already has. Just gotta keep raising hell about it. Best way for the corporations to win is to have it turn into just some bill passed through congress that nobody cares about like the most of them. Can't let people forget about it.
I hope people realize that SOPA is not the main issue here. It is the Protect IP act that will inevitably come back to senate. I expect SOPA to fall easily and when people compare SOPA to the protect IP act it will seem much better and will have much better chance of passing. I hope people are not to concerned about this bill as it was not meant to pass but to create such an extreme representation that compared to protect IP it is nothing.
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DO NOT LET THAT FOOL YOU BOTH ARE BAD!
"this could very well be nothing more than an attempt to score some points with the rabble while letting its industry association do the dirty work"
That's kind of what I think. It's so much easier to shout that you're going to do something, and get the credit, than to actually follow through. Besides, of course they support it, when have game companies ever NOT exploited people for profit?
That's kind of what I think. It's so much easier to shout that you're going to do something, and get the credit, than to actually follow through. Besides, of course they support it, when have game companies ever NOT exploited people for profit?
Of course there is the third option, i.e. that is is simply an insignificant clerical change. Unless they come out and say specifically that they no longer support SOPA then they clearly do via the ESA, the fact that they're not listed individually is trivial and probably not even a conscious move... after all, why list yourself individually if you're part of the ESA and that is listed?
There are a lot of Supporters on that list that make me wonder why they have any interest in SOPA at all. Seriously, why do major fashion/skin care brands (eg. Estée Lauder Companies, L?Oreal) have any interest in this?
Having a list of supports three pages long sure looks good, but when over should have no interest in this one way or the other and the other half are broken into relgious groups that probably what the internet turned off all togther and massive corporations that are all owned by the same few people...
Edit: the NFL? WTF^^
Having a list of supports three pages long sure looks good, but when over should have no interest in this one way or the other and the other half are broken into relgious groups that probably what the internet turned off all togther and massive corporations that are all owned by the same few people...
Edit: the NFL? WTF^^
Sony's not behind it anymore!? Well Sony Music certainly is!
Here's the thing. This bill should not be taken seriously unless they get a big internet company behind it. I see a lot of entertainment companies, but not a single internet company. You know the internet!? The exact thing this bill affects!? Not a single company who's business revolves around the internet is behind this bill? That's how you know we have a problem.
Here's the thing. This bill should not be taken seriously unless they get a big internet company behind it. I see a lot of entertainment companies, but not a single internet company. You know the internet!? The exact thing this bill affects!? Not a single company who's business revolves around the internet is behind this bill? That's how you know we have a problem.
They don't want people to steal their commercials. Yeah I don't know either.AhumbleKnight said:
Well that makes sense. The NFL broadcasts the games, they don't want it posted online.AhumbleKnight said:
You mean they don't post it themselves? I don't watch football but I do sometimes catch the Rugby games, and the highlights are posted by the NRL. Also, the biggest thing that gets posted online in relation to sport are the Superball commercials. How is that in any way negative?BlackWidower said:
I honestly could care less about capcom at this point, I personally own all the games I need from them "from nes to ps3". I might pick up some of the new resident evil games if they have any possibility of being good "they did drop two major franchises bof and mega/rockman"RaikuFA said:
On subject..well nice to know that software companies are willing to listen to their buyers before making rash choices that affect a certain base. I do own 2 wii's 2 ps3's one of each are fully modded the other are for online stuff etc.
Companies need to realize it's the consumer that keeps them alive/flourish If you can not compete then restructure your business model but overall treat your customers with the up-most respect.