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dalek sec

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Well hopefully Games workshop takes them to court and sue's the shit out of them. That should make for some great popcorn fun. God they didn't even try to change the tanks at all.
 

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Elmoth said:
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Have they further ruined Command and Conquer by adding 40K shit to it? Ergh.
40k is leagues above C&C. Most of C&C is average or good, while 40k has excellent books, miniatures etc.

Although those new dark eldar and necron are taking a similar turn as some of C&C.

Souls encased in robots driving a soul encased in a giant cannon? The necrons used to be almost scary.

Also Matt Ward.|
I used to be REALLY into C&C - I think it is a really intruding idea how half of it was based on the myth of Cain, and the post apocalyptic Tiberium scenario was actually really cool. The cyberpunk like NOD versus the futuristic GDI was also very cool, and the Scrin were cool too (I haven't played past Tiberian Sun mind you). The whole thing revolving around Tiberium and everyone never knowing what Kane was up to was just really cool.

40K is entirely different - the two should never be compared or mixed because they're so vastly different.
I disagree. You take Tiberian Sun, Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert and you supersize it and you have something comparable to 40k. There's religion, a lot of war, death and destruction and sci-fi in both.
Red Alert is just Cold War x10000000000000 and it's pretty comical.
Tiberian Sun and Dawn are pretty much about fighting for a new resource which is actually killing the planet - it could be compared to oil in a modern day world. There's stuff about evolution with Kane's big tiberium bomb too though.

40K stopped making interesting commentary long ago and apart from Dan Abnett novels, is now just an excuse to have power armoured space marine porn. It's a giant galaxy spanning epic war setting, but C&C is somewhat grounded in reality, Tiberian Dawn was pretty recognisable as the 90s, whilst further games are just a post apocalyptic version of that. 40K makes no references to anything from our modern day time.
 

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At least on the bright side the Baneblade is an awesome tank. I wonder if they're gonna copy the Leman Russ next?
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
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EA were counting on them being "forgotten" designs.

Never mind that these tanks have nothing to do with previous Command & Conquer canon. This is a new low. Tiberium Alliances will probably be worse than Tiberium Twilight. And that's a difficult endeavour.
The worst part to that is if they consider the Baneblade a forgotten design. This isn't the Dark Age of Technology People, the Baneblade hasn't changed that much!
It's been 3 years since i quit 40K, and that tank still makes me happy.

Ot: Sue the crap outa them GW.

You glorious bastards.
 

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Did GW properly buy the rights from Armourcast, or did they die out or go into limbo?

That's the funny thing about what Games Workshop did to Armourcast. If they didn't go through the proper channels, then EA could actually come out of this with Games Workshop, and to a lesser extent THQ.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Armorcast's stuff just GW's 5mm stuff scaled up? Even if there were legal nonsense surrounding whatever happened between them, the designs are still GW's.
 

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I think you guys are overreacting.
Didn't you notice the additional machine gun on top of the Grinder turret? Not at all like the Bonecrunchas vision slit!
Also, the Bombard Tank has waaaaay shorter barrels than the Baneblade. And did you notice the headlights? They're rectangular! And their housing is held in place by two rivets each! I don't see any rivets on that flimsy Baneblade's headlights!

On a more serious note though, when I first saw the artworks, i thought "well, looks like they put some WH40k Laser Cannons on YR's Grinder tank. Oh hey, the other one kinda reminds me of my brother's Leman Russ..."

I might have to add that the Leman Russ is kinda the only Imperial Battletank I know.
 

Eclectic Dreck

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Woohoo! Legal troubles for EA. Maybe. Hopefully.
There is no legal trouble unless the game is released. Pursuing legal action against copyright infringement when no profit has been made is a difficult course. Generally, a cease and desist order is sent instead and the offending content is removed.

Now, if you want to talk about obvious stealing, look at early Battletech designs (Marauder, Warhammer, Battlemaster, etc) and compare them to a notable anime released earlier. . .
 

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It's ok, GW already steals from their customers.
Zing.

When coming into this thread and seeing the first pictures I was like:
"How can you steal it? It's just a tan-...Yep, sue 'em."
 

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Wow, it took me a second to figure out whose tank was whose tank, and I've been playing 40k for a couple years now. That... that can't be good.
 

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Ouch, those are copies and not even "*Wink Wink* see its not the same" copies. Well maybe after GW sues EA they can do a price drop.
 

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Boy, the sheeple sure do enjoy finding reasons to "hate" EA. Which is funny, because they'll all still buy their products. It's cute how people on the internet throw around words at the slightest provocation, chuck a little tantrum, rant for a week and and then open their wallets and make new releases push sales records sky high.


Wonder what it'll be cool to hate next...
 

Evil Alpaca

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They took an Ork bonecruncha and painted it green and yellow. Why? The red ones go faster.


Seriously though, that is some lazy design work right there. The designer who did this needs to be fired. What is kinda worrisome is that they didn't even bother to edit the small details to even try to hide the theft. Did a designer think they could create a carbon copy with a new paint scheme and no one would notice?

However, if you look on the C&C Alliances website, you won't find the images. Hopefully that means EA came down hard on this.
 

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Das Boot said:
ChaplainOrion said:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-04-12-ea-accused-of-copying-warhammer-40k-tanks-for-command-and-conquer-tiberium-alliances

It's not even funny about how they're almost the exact same thing.
So tell me how do you know that EA stole these tank designs. How do you know that they did not duno ask games workshop about it first? Oh wait thats right you dont your just jumping to conclusions.
GW is VERY protective of their IP properties. Just look at what happened to Damnatus, a fan made film.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatus
 

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
If they were being lazy, there is a fairly popular mod on tiberian wars that adds the forgotten as a faction and gives them a short campaign as well. They could have just asked the mods creator if they could use their models, they already look great and are really balanced with the other races. If they'd done that most of the design for the forgotten would be done, they'd only need a few new units and things to keep them in line with GDI and Nod.
 

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MercurySteam said:
At least on the bright side the Baneblade is an awesome tank. I wonder if they're gonna copy the Leman Russ next?
The leman Russ is an almost identical copy of a WW1 tank, the name of which escapes me at the moment. Games Workshop are pretty well known for "borrowing" ideas and the like, what goes around comes around really - there are only so many different types of tank you can design.

Live and let live.
 

Meight08

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Ed130 said:
Das Boot said:
ChaplainOrion said:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-04-12-ea-accused-of-copying-warhammer-40k-tanks-for-command-and-conquer-tiberium-alliances

It's not even funny about how they're almost the exact same thing.
So tell me how do you know that EA stole these tank designs. How do you know that they did not duno ask games workshop about it first? Oh wait thats right you dont your just jumping to conclusions.
GW is VERY protective of their IP properties. Just look at what happened to Damnatus, a fan made film.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatus
They first allowed it but when german copyright laws said they would lose the ip if it released GW had no choice.
Its like wanting to let a charity use your house and then hear if you do that you will lose your house.
 

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There may be something more behind this blattant theft...

Anyone remember what happened years ago with a little game called "Chaos League" by Cyanide Studios? They wanted to do a Blood Bowl game but couldn't afford the license, so they pretty much stole everything from it and made a game that was Blood Bowl in everything but name. Games Workshop, of course, took notice and sued them.

Now, when the time came for GW to actually do a Blood Bowl game years later, who did they go for to develop it..? Cyanide Studios, of course, who eventualy released the awesome Blood Bowl video game adaptation that came out a couple of years ago. So, by copying the license without permission and doing a good game based on it, they effectively proved themselves capable of doing a GW game themselves. And it worked!

Now, we all know that THQ, the holders of the Warhammer 40K license for video games, is in trouble, right? Could this be EA trying to make itself noticed by GW in a deliberate attempt to replicate for 40K what Cyanide Studios did for Blood Bowl?
 

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Evil Alpaca said:
They took an Ork bonecruncha and painted it green and yellow. Why? The red ones go faster.
Yes, but "Green iz bezt". I think it's more orky, too. And yellow is for more dakka. It doesn't need to go fast if it's the best shooting tank there is.
 

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GoaThief said:
MercurySteam said:
At least on the bright side the Baneblade is an awesome tank. I wonder if they're gonna copy the Leman Russ next?
The leman Russ is an almost identical copy of a WW1 tank, the name of which escapes me at the moment. Games Workshop are pretty well known for "borrowing" ideas and the like, what goes around comes around really - there are only so many different types of tank you can design.

Live and let live.
The Leman Russ is a WW1 Tank with a turret on top. The Baneblade is an oversized Main Battle Tank Chassis with far too many guns and sponsons.