it does feel weird, doenst it?? that we actually agree with the devil for once. i cant believe either what i have written earlier.Ickorus said:
EA Sues Zynga for Copying The Sims Social
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Although I don't like either company, I'm rooting for EA on this one since Zynga are nothing more than a plague on the games industry which need to be EXPUNGED!
"Expunge" is a good word. Expuuuunge!
"Expunge" is a good word. Expuuuunge!
Hmmmmm...
*reads through the case notes, referenced copyright law, and claims carefully*
Yes, EA is certainly 100% right in this instance. So it's not just my bias against the Zynga.
This is almost a case of two of the biggest bullies at high school finally crossing paths with each other and the newest bully intentionally spits in the other's eye and they start having it out. Then the bully that you used to be friends with years ago in elementary school, who changed unexpectedly after they came back from summer camp that one year, starts to win and you find yourself rooting for him almost immediately and--okay this analogy just became a tangent.
The point is, [HEADING=1]GO EA!!![/HEADING]
*reads through the case notes, referenced copyright law, and claims carefully*
Yes, EA is certainly 100% right in this instance. So it's not just my bias against the Zynga.
This is almost a case of two of the biggest bullies at high school finally crossing paths with each other and the newest bully intentionally spits in the other's eye and they start having it out. Then the bully that you used to be friends with years ago in elementary school, who changed unexpectedly after they came back from summer camp that one year, starts to win and you find yourself rooting for him almost immediately and--okay this analogy just became a tangent.
The point is, [HEADING=1]GO EA!!![/HEADING]
This makes me think of a really big fish, who is a huge huge asshole, and constantly fucks around with the other fish and begins he's thinking the biggest fish in the ocean THEN BOOM fucking giga sperm whale octobearpig comes in and says 'oh that's cute'.
I hate myself for cheering EA on this but hell, here's hoping they win.
I hate myself for cheering EA on this but hell, here's hoping they win.
Oh Zynga. Ohhhhhhhhh Zynga. You really fucked up this time. Did you get too confident from picking on smaller companies, I wonder? When one is hurting for funds, one ought not to do something to piss off EA's lawyers.
I'm head over heels in The Sims 3 right now, so I'm feeling generous towards EA (at least their TS3 team), but even without that all I can do is look at Zynga and laugh and shake my head at them.
I'm head over heels in The Sims 3 right now, so I'm feeling generous towards EA (at least their TS3 team), but even without that all I can do is look at Zynga and laugh and shake my head at them.
Facebook itself can be a great means of contacting friends and seeing what's going on in the world, so I would really hate to see the site itself fail.kiri2tsubasa said:
FarmVille requests on the other hand? ...Burn in Hell Zynga!
I never thought I'd see the day when I'd side with EA on a lawsuit, but here it is.
You'd notice that EA has not done anything to the makers of Anno 2070 or CitiesXL, and probably other similar SimCity style world building games. I'm guessing, as I haven't played them, that while they are inspired by the Sim* series, the mechanics of those games are probably very different.Starke said:
What Zynga is infamous for, and probably what the crux of this lawsuit is about, is directly ripping off both art style and gameplay mechanics. Indeed, we've seen numerous articles of the owner of Zynga telling the employees to not innovate, but just to directly copy things off their competitors, then leverage their huge player base to drown the competitors away.
Only this time, the group they tried to drown is a whale known as EA.
EA knows a frivolous and vague lawsuit won't get anywhere, like if they tried it against the other games, so chances are this one is going to be very, very specific, and it increases their chances of success.
Nail? It's probably gonna be more like a railroad spike. Of all the companies they really are getting sued by one of the worst.nikki191 said:
For once, EA, you have undertaken something good and wholesome. I wonder if this will lead to more good things (probably not..).
Lol, who am I kidding, I'm just rooting for the lesser of two evils here.
Hmmm, turns out the business practice of blatantly ripping people off doesn't work so well when you steal from someone with at least as many lawyers as you.
I hate EA with a passion. I hate Zynga with a passion.
EA is kicking Zynga while they're down...
I'm so confused about how I should feel about this. Is EA being the ever expected dick and stomping on competition when they are at their worst and likely can't financially carry out a defence to these accusations?
or
Does Zynga deserve to be beaten for their lazy thievery?
I feel dirty even trying to decipher who is worse in this case.
***warning Godwins Law in affect warning***
It's like Stalin kicking Hitler in the nads just as he he is chomping down on his cyanide pill.
EA is kicking Zynga while they're down...
I'm so confused about how I should feel about this. Is EA being the ever expected dick and stomping on competition when they are at their worst and likely can't financially carry out a defence to these accusations?
or
Does Zynga deserve to be beaten for their lazy thievery?
I feel dirty even trying to decipher who is worse in this case.
***warning Godwins Law in affect warning***
It's like Stalin kicking Hitler in the nads just as he he is chomping down on his cyanide pill.
I do actually. The catch is of course the chance of legal establishing precedence here. If EA had gone after Anno 2070 and accused them of cloning Sim City, it would have been two major hurdles: first, Anno is backed by Ubisoft, second second Anno 2070 doesn't look to the untrained eye like it's ripping off Sim City.ThriKreen said:
Going after Zynga, they are dealing with a company that's about sixteen minutes off being in an SEC investigation, and buried under litigation, who's stock price just plummeted, and to the untrained eye it looks like they simply ripped off the game wholesale.
If it was just going to be EA v. Zynga, I'd be dancing in the streets... well, not literally, but you know. What worries me is in six months or a year when EA, or Activision, or Ubisoft, or whomever, decides they want to take out the competition with another suit building off of EA v. Zynga, which is, you know, not outside the range of reasonable probability.
This is the gist of the case, though, if you'd care to read the complaint filed with the court. The point is, Zynga didn't come up with their own art, not any more than Vanilla Ice came up with the riff that underlies Ice Ice Baby. It's different, but not significantly different enough. It's like trying to change two or three notes over the entirety of Stairway To Heaven, releasing it to millions of dollars in sales and then saying you don't owe Page/Plant a dime. They wouldn't tear you apart in court because they can afford better lawyers, they'd tear you apart in court because you're just legally wrong.Mygaffer said:
There are games that are knockoffs. There are games that are very similar to one another in mechanics. This is taking Super Mario Bros., then leaving all of the art assets functionally unchanged, but changing Mario's outfit from red to yellow, and then claiming it's an original work just to cash in on something that someone else developed and took the artistic and financial risk to prove was a sellable idea. That would be a clone on the level that Zynga has ripped off with their Sims Social and Tiny Tower knockoffs, and I can't really think of any clones that are as blatant as the ones perpetrated by Zynga.
