EA Wins Title of "Worst Company in America"
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I disagree with this result, I mean they aren't too far off, but Bank of America, Newscorp, and Goldman-Sachs are in a completely different league.
That said, maybe this will start talk about the dissolution of the conglomerations. EA/Activision have Producers and advertising budgets, but do none of the work on the games except to add archaic and ineffective DRM, and poorly handled DLC policies. We're in an age where most PC Gamers, and perhaps with the next generation of consoles most console gamers, have access to Digital Distribution, and pre-orders for big name titles can outsell actual releases. We don't need massive, useless corporate conglomerates.
That said, maybe this will start talk about the dissolution of the conglomerations. EA/Activision have Producers and advertising budgets, but do none of the work on the games except to add archaic and ineffective DRM, and poorly handled DLC policies. We're in an age where most PC Gamers, and perhaps with the next generation of consoles most console gamers, have access to Digital Distribution, and pre-orders for big name titles can outsell actual releases. We don't need massive, useless corporate conglomerates.
Well "sister" I think EA kind of explained it themselves. They have 300 million customers and the thing is that while EA's comeback implies they are happy customers, that's hardly the case. Given that most of the people buying video games are on the internet (especially with always-on DRM) it's a company many voters are going to be familiar with. Not to mention that EA is bringing their garbage into the home, where most of the other contenders are bad, but in a less direct way. The way how EA's practices with their DLC, and nickel and diming consumers are spreading all through the digital world, and even outside of video games, makes them at least indirectly responsible for the hidden fees and microtransactions being attached to everything.
EA has also been getting worse year after year, where things like Bank Of America or Wal*Mart kind of hit a plateau of suck and then just kind of stayed there, where EA has been puffing along like the little engine that could, figuring "yeah, this sucks for the consumers and makes us money, but we can just push a little more....". Well congrats to EA, dogged persistance has allowed them to finally surpass all the other crappy businesses out there. The ME3 ending (noting the triple color scheme) is not only sucktastic on a literally international level, but things like "Origin", day #1 DLC, and similar things have all just added up to this moment.
EA has also been getting worse year after year, where things like Bank Of America or Wal*Mart kind of hit a plateau of suck and then just kind of stayed there, where EA has been puffing along like the little engine that could, figuring "yeah, this sucks for the consumers and makes us money, but we can just push a little more....". Well congrats to EA, dogged persistance has allowed them to finally surpass all the other crappy businesses out there. The ME3 ending (noting the triple color scheme) is not only sucktastic on a literally international level, but things like "Origin", day #1 DLC, and similar things have all just added up to this moment.
I'm gonna give you these: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.357146-Entitlement?page=4#14152304Vibhor said:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.357146-Entitlement#14144060
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.357146-Entitlement?page=5#14152594
And then this:
I never said games aren't art in that post. I expressed outrage at a company that produces art and entertainment (video games) was voted the worst company in the world when there are other companies that have killed and fucked people out of their homes.
EA are just bullies.
Look at the big picture, here. EA?
or Bank of America, JP Morgan, AIG, Blackwater?
And the fact that most consumers don't know the bullshit these companies pull is indicative of gross ignorance in this country.
Now, excuse me, as I type hot-n-ready pizza in the catcha.
Whoops, I could have sworn that you said "it would be a much better world if EA was_n't_ the worst company in America but sadly it _is_". My bad, must have misread you. Though it doesn't really change my overall point and really just puts us in agreement.Kinguendo said:
And you're a fool. You're right, the games aren't made by EA (which is like defending a company that doesn't make sure its factory meets safety standards because the Execs don't work there), but EA does make a lot of the policy decisions. The archaic and ineffective DRM is the idea of EA, the poor DLC practices, the online passes, etc... those are all EA.-Samurai- said:
As I said above I think we need to move away from the massive conglomerates; while they aren't always evil, the few additions they make always make the game worse, and they really aren't necessary anymore.
Of course I have to add to this EA is by no means the worst company in America. It's not even a heavy weight.
And if none of the above bothers you?Faerillis said:
Seriously, online passes? It takes 45 seconds to enter. The last game I bought from EA was BF3, where they gave me the map pack for free.
I think I'll rephrase what someone else said in another thread.
They may be greedy, but they're hardly evil. They just want to get paid. And I like the work their developers do, so I have no issue paying them. But by all means, continue soapboxing for the cause of hating X and liking Y better. I'll be over here actually enjoying the medium.
I am not gonna click on those threads because the word entitlement rubs me off in a wrong way.CaptOfSerenity said:
While yes your point it rather true that EA is not the worst of the lot but they most certainly are the most that are affected by the poll. Case in hand, their reaction to the whole scenario. They have gone full Damage control mode. If Bank of America would have won(like it did for the previous few years) no one would have been affected. They simply don't care about these little polls because most of their customers don't come from the internet. Ask yourself, who should win? The person who is actually affected by the victory or the person who doesn't even care about the competition in the first place.
Part of the reason for the victory of EA was the fact that the poll wasn't region locked. If it was locked to America then I am sure some other company would have "won".
Also, note this : Its the choice of majority that decides the victor. You say EA is not the worst company but the majority says otherwise. I don't mean that majority is always right but you cannot just throw a hissy fit when the majority doesn't like your opinion.
So will this make EA think twice and change there ways or will they come on with a thank you speech.
Aeonknight said:
Yeah, that along side stating that EA isn't even in the same league of bad as a number of companies, I must've been calling them evil.Faerillis said:
Online Passes which are designed to impede the sale of used games and innately devalue my game if I choose to sell it? And that Map Pack was probably on the disc ? while this isn't always true it's hardly uncommon, ie Kingdoms of Amalur, where the Online Pass content was clearly ripped out of the game.
DLC on the other hand can be poorly or well, though I am normally pro-DLC; those who enjoy the game get more content, those who don't enjoy the game can do whatever they want.
DRM is nothing but bugly, and has no place in games.
So the problem is that they make amazing games, and people are expected to pay for additional content?
A spectacular example of the inverse law of averages: The more people you have angry about a topic, the lower their total intelligence is.
A spectacular example of the inverse law of averages: The more people you have angry about a topic, the lower their total intelligence is.
Damn, the fallacies in your argument rub ME the wrong way.Vibhor said:
First off, read what I wrote through those links, because you lack context in terms of knowing my stance on certain things that matter.
Who should win is the company that is the worst, objectively. And deception and murder are pretty fucking bad.
And the majority isn't necessarily right. Just because the majority voted one way doesn't mean they're right.
"The majority says otherwise." So, I should shut up because the majority has a different, emotionally-charged opinion of EA? You fucking kidding me?
Fallacies? Where?CaptOfSerenity said:
Also, how does murder fits into all this? If we are talking about a PMC, isn't murder part of the job? If you are saying they should not do their job or that their job is bad then fine but that doesn't mean they treat their consumers like shit. Also, deception goes both ways. So both things are quite irrelevant in the current discussion.
Are you just writing what I said?CaptOfSerenity said:
There is no objectivity in saying XYZ is worst company. Everyone votes based on their personal opinion. All this jazz about other company being evil would have made sense before the poll if you were campaigning against another company but now its all just noise.
Hell, I'm not arguing with you. I'm simply hoping that it was just a contributing factor, not the only factor.idarkphoenixi said:
Gotta love their reaction, actually.It's very true. If there games simply were not good,they simply would not sell.
And the end of the article seemed a bit off, the 'holding back content so they can charge for it later'. Isn't the Mass Effect Fix going to be free?
And the end of the article seemed a bit off, the 'holding back content so they can charge for it later'. Isn't the Mass Effect Fix going to be free?
thepyrethatburns said:
Perhaps I should have only included the intended statement like I was going to originally.Phuctifyno said:
I don't disagree with EA that them getting the award is a joke in comparison to more real life issues, but my point was entirely on EA's "We made lot's of money so we can't ever be wrong" stance on everything.
I was not siding with the argument that they deserve the award at all.
