Earths Collapse "Imminent"
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What absolute twaddle. The worst case scenario is a large pile of dead, poor people and, quite frankly, there is always a large pile of dead, poor people. One could argue that is what poor people are for.
"Planetary collapse", "wholesale transformation of the Earth's surface"...without bothering to explain what these phrases mean, there's really no point using them is there?
Were going to have another ice age.
The world is going to be hit by an asteroid.
Demons are taking over the earth.
Zombies are taking over the earth.
(insert long dead illness here) is going to become widespread and kill everyone on earth.
Were going to nuke each other to death.
Did I miss any?
The way I look at it, if I am to die in some world ending disaster, at least I'm not dying alone.
The world is going to be hit by an asteroid.
Demons are taking over the earth.
Zombies are taking over the earth.
(insert long dead illness here) is going to become widespread and kill everyone on earth.
Were going to nuke each other to death.
Did I miss any?
The way I look at it, if I am to die in some world ending disaster, at least I'm not dying alone.
Well, the scientists who came up with this idea obviously don't believe it.
Otherwise the headlines would be "Large number of scientists dead after jumping in front of trams as part of a suicide pact that they believed would save the world"
Otherwise the headlines would be "Large number of scientists dead after jumping in front of trams as part of a suicide pact that they believed would save the world"
I'd be more scared if this came out say? 200 hundred years ago.
If you're scared of a lack of crops, then take tips from weed growers. Indoor farming!
If you're scared of a lack of crops, then take tips from weed growers. Indoor farming!
The Earth goes through these climate shifts all the time, fairly regularly. Humanity is slightly speeding the process at the moment, but overall not by anywhere near enough to cause us to kill off 1/2 our population and suddenly start using solar energy for everything.
We're fairly close to the next ice age at the moment, but 'fairly close' in terms for the planet would mean 200-400 years before we start seeing any real climate change that would affect us humans (oh no! it's like 4 degrees colder, whatever will we do? - my 40 year old son).
Simple fact is that the earth isn't static. It won't have the exact same shape and climate is has right now forever. It's constantly changing, and if you want to be really depressed now that it's almost certain that it will look like mars before the sun starts expanding.
Will this affect humans? Yes.
Will it wipe humans out? No. Even if it killed 99% of humans there's enough left to overpopulate Australia, and i strongly doubt an ice age would make, say, the Russians give even a single shit.
Will it destroy the Earth? No. Life will survive - albeit changed - for longer than humans will. Maybe in 2000 years humans will be dead and the dominant species on the planet will be Crows, who explore old human ruins and laugh at our claims to be 'intelligent'.
Does any of this affect anyone reading this right now?
...Well, unless you're 5yo girl and live in the Shimane prefecture, that's a no.
The threat to us young people right now is not our planet. It's our aging society and overpopulation, which is going to cause economic collapse all over the world and very likely kill more people than our bro of a planet ever will.
Although, considering how fucking COLD it is right now in Australia, maybe there's more to this than i think.
We're fairly close to the next ice age at the moment, but 'fairly close' in terms for the planet would mean 200-400 years before we start seeing any real climate change that would affect us humans (oh no! it's like 4 degrees colder, whatever will we do? - my 40 year old son).
Simple fact is that the earth isn't static. It won't have the exact same shape and climate is has right now forever. It's constantly changing, and if you want to be really depressed now that it's almost certain that it will look like mars before the sun starts expanding.
Will this affect humans? Yes.
Will it wipe humans out? No. Even if it killed 99% of humans there's enough left to overpopulate Australia, and i strongly doubt an ice age would make, say, the Russians give even a single shit.
Will it destroy the Earth? No. Life will survive - albeit changed - for longer than humans will. Maybe in 2000 years humans will be dead and the dominant species on the planet will be Crows, who explore old human ruins and laugh at our claims to be 'intelligent'.
Does any of this affect anyone reading this right now?
...Well, unless you're 5yo girl and live in the Shimane prefecture, that's a no.
The threat to us young people right now is not our planet. It's our aging society and overpopulation, which is going to cause economic collapse all over the world and very likely kill more people than our bro of a planet ever will.
Although, considering how fucking COLD it is right now in Australia, maybe there's more to this than i think.
No one reading this will be a live in 100 years, so who cares! Live for the moment. But personally I think articles like this are just scare tactics written by looney eco-weirdos.Griffolion said:
The expected end of the world in 1666 comes to mind, the end of all times of 2000 as well. At least this one isn't based in numerology.JesterRaiin said:
I find the article pretty vague and pandering to populist fears. But i do believes that humanity as a whole is screwing up Mother Earth too much. Gaia needs to be care for.
But how will we do it though? Tell all the developing countries to stop trying to get on their feet? Cut down on living standards? Go vegan? There are a lot of possible solutions but no clear cut one, and using scientific rationality we have to verify and research them before we validate even considering their feasability.
Saying it again, we should REALLY start up with the space exploration again.
From the article: "The researchers believe that a planetary shift cannot be avoided anymore. However, the impact can be delayed or minimized, if we "drastically" lower the planet's population "very quickly","
Erm... are they implying what I think they are? Has science just condoned mass killings?!
Erm... are they implying what I think they are? Has science just condoned mass killings?!
As someone who's been studying geography for 5 years now and who keeps up to date with actual, properly sourced research, as opposed to unsubstantiated fearmongering sensationalism, I'm afraid I have to call bollocks on the entirety of that *snicker* article.
I see you've been looking up George Carlin lately.Bassik said:Eh, the Earth is going to be fine. It survived a whole lot more then anything we can throw at it. The Permian mass extinction comes to mind, almost all life was obliterated, and the survivers went and became fucking dinosaurs, so you just know the earth is going to be fine.
It's just us that's fucked, no biggy.
The papers says that shifts have happened in the past 10 thousand and 100 thousand years. Humans have evolved from creatures that have survived these shifts, even the ones that happened millions of years ago. Im sure we can survive this.
Of course, a lot of people may die. But humanity isn't doomed.
captcha: do it now!
I wonder what....
Of course, a lot of people may die. But humanity isn't doomed.
captcha: do it now!
I wonder what....
Not really, but I watched him a lot in my teens, so maybe that's it. Still, it can't be an actual quote of him because I made this up this afternoon.SpaceBat said:I see you've been looking up George Carlin lately.Bassik said:Eh, the Earth is going to be fine. It survived a whole lot more then anything we can throw at it. The Permian mass extinction comes to mind, almost all life was obliterated, and the survivers went and became fucking dinosaurs, so you just know the earth is going to be fine.
It's just us that's fucked, no biggy.
Stop accusing me of stealing! You are tearing me apart spacebat!
They didn't even actually say the change would be as bad as the extinction of the dinosaurs. They said:
"the end of the cataclysmic falling star, which ended the age of dinosaurs."
Which sounds to me like (although it's unbelievably poorly worded) they're talking about the end of the mass extinction.
You know how after the asteroid hit, the earth got really cold for a while because the dust was blocking out the sun? They're talking about the end of that cataclysm, so they're talking about the rate of change when the dust went away, and things went from dinosaur-killing weather to really nice.
That doesn't sound like such a big deal to me. I mean, okay, millions of people will die in the floods, but they'll be third-worlders. The death toll for real people won't even reach the hundreds of thousands - I won't be in there unless I make some excessively dumb decisions, and the same probably applies to you.
"the end of the cataclysmic falling star, which ended the age of dinosaurs."
Which sounds to me like (although it's unbelievably poorly worded) they're talking about the end of the mass extinction.
You know how after the asteroid hit, the earth got really cold for a while because the dust was blocking out the sun? They're talking about the end of that cataclysm, so they're talking about the rate of change when the dust went away, and things went from dinosaur-killing weather to really nice.
That doesn't sound like such a big deal to me. I mean, okay, millions of people will die in the floods, but they'll be third-worlders. The death toll for real people won't even reach the hundreds of thousands - I won't be in there unless I make some excessively dumb decisions, and the same probably applies to you.
Yeah. Pretty much every second one of those special numbers "happens". 666 atoms of something flies through something else. 42 stars change into super-novas. Follower of some New Age cult reads some ritual for 23rd time this month. 13 stars align in one line.keiji_Maeda said:
Everything can be represented by numbers, but it doesn't mean those numbers represent something special. I never understood people believing something else.
Let me resurrect Mr. Carlin for a few minutes... ;]keiji_Maeda said:
I'm strongly against it. It doesn't change a thing where we'll go. We'll stay the way we are now and were since the beginning - petty, greedy thieves, proud of our little, shiny trinkets, afraid of anything that challenges the vision of the way world works we created for ourselves. Until we'll grow up enough to cease destroying everything we don't understand, we shouldn't move out of our sandbox yet.keiji_Maeda said:
Why ? Because until we share the same globe, there's still a hope for some sort of understanding, unity. Even some fanatics will think twice about unleashing nuclear horror if there's a possibility that it will bite them back in their asses. When we'll spread to planets and moons, there will be no chance for peace.
...At least that's what i think. :]
Oh no! They got Sarah! She is in a conga line!DVS BSTrD said:The Latinos are mutating!
And they are HEATING UP THE PLANET!
Could always have yourself frozen.SmashLovesTitanQuest said:You know what makes me kinda depressed? I mean, yeah, I guess humanity dying out at some point and all. But if that happens and there is some sort of ice age, new life will develop afterwards. And I won't be around to see that new life. I'll never know what it looks like, how the Earth will be in another 3000 years time.
You sir, are amazing.
