Earths Collapse "Imminent"

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JesterRaiin

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keiji_Maeda said:
It's a good point.
Thanks. It's hard to express one's opinion in the foreign, partially unknown language with nothing except Google Translator to help. :D

keiji_Maeda said:
And i didn't mean to imply tat merely getting the hell of terra is gooing to resolve humanitys woes. But i'm unsure as to whether or not humanity as a whole will survive long enough to learn from it's problems. But on the other hand, we have to, one way or the other. But i'm still of the old school approach that space exploration'll humble humanity, but i'm pretty damn sure group A of people will fight group B. Maybe humanity'll enconuter another race, but i think it's naive to believe that all the answers are in space. A giant green skinned mentor isn't a resolution to everybodys problems.
Unfortunately, nothing short of divine intervention will be capable to finally resolve all our problems if we'll have to add astronomical distances to the Human equation. Actually... This reminds me of two stories, Farmer's "Jesus on Mars" and Heinlein's "Stranger in a Strange Land". If you'll have some spare time, i encourage you to read those novels. At worst, they present interesting visions, at best - well, you be the judge. :]

As for now, i hope for unexpected technological breakthrough of sorts. Something that will make all this stupid race to destruction obsolete. Maybe some kind of invention that'll connect all Mankind's minds into one, single consciousness or something like this. Seriously, i don't see any other way for us. With each new generation we have to learn everything from the beginning and we still make the same mistakes.
...but now we have the nukes.
 
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Rawne1980 said:
Yet another doom.

Why is it people can never predict a time of rainbows, dogs and cats hugging and pink rabbits.

It's always a doom.

And they never ... eeeeeever ... get it right. So far, at 32, i've survived 12 "end of the world" predictions I AM INVINCIBLE.
O RLY?



I think not ;)

OT: Seriously until the sky starts falling, i'm not going to fret over these theories.

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These people are casually advocating genocide. Really now. And I'm sorry, but the use of the phrase "used scientific theories, toy ecosystem modeling and paleontological evidence as a crystal ball", as a juxtaposition of a hoax and adaptable data that can be used to skew results in one's favor removes what credibility this article had, even if they weren't throwing around phrases that sound bad but go explained. Pandering nonsense rooted in the psychology of imminent doom, nothing more. Though, the advocacy of genocide should be watched--that just reeks of someone wanting another ethnic cleansing.
 

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The amount of ignorance in this thread is kinda astounding. People are happy to live in denial of climate change and the effects of human activity on the planet. Especially homo sapiens' consumption of natural resources without replenishing them somehow, all the while introducing toxins into the ecosystem. I guess the whole climate change/pollution sceptic movement really has had an effect. People aren't concerned at all. There is going to be a point where the earth will be too poisoned to reverse the damage.

Population reduction may be part of the answer. I won't hear sensationalist accusations of "genocide".
 

Combustion Kevin

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new ice-age?
we survived the last one, didn't we?

besides, it's not like we're gonna wake up one morning going from twenty degrees to minus fifty, shit doesn't work that way, or any climate change for that matter.
 

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Quaxar said:
A lot of "we're doooooomed" without any real information. Or, more likely, any properly made up information.
I have some hard evidence I think you'll find hard to disagree with.
Funny enough, that was exactly the picture I had in mind while typing that sentence...

Don't worry though, people of earth. We might all die but I'll make you forget all sorrow!
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Bassik said:
Not really, but I watched him a lot in my teens, so maybe that's it. Still, it can't be an actual quote of him because I made this up this afternoon.
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Haha, what a funny story Bassik. So how's your sex life?
 

theheroofaction

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This is clearly just confirmation bias.

Every generation has had a totally real indisputable reason that they really are the last this time.
 

Sandernista

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Bassik said:
Eh, the Earth is going to be fine. It survived a whole lot more then anything we can throw at it.
Have you seen how big an explosion a nuclear bomb makes?

Do you know how many of those things we have?

If we wanted to we could tear this planet in half, I think it's foolish to doubt, and not fear, the power of human ingenuity.

ETA: Some perspective-


That's the equivalent to 1 ton of TNT. The 8000 nuclear warheads we have in the US alone have the yield of up to 10,000,000 tons of TNT. 8000 We could rip this planet a new one easily.

ETA: Even more perspective.


Most of our weapons are almost 40,000 times more powerful than this.
 

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Kodlak said:
From the article: "The researchers believe that a planetary shift cannot be avoided anymore. However, the impact can be delayed or minimized, if we "drastically" lower the planet's population "very quickly","

Erm... are they implying what I think they are? Has science just condoned mass killings?!
Science doesn't have to condone them
This article is bananas and it's scientific merit is close to none. However, while a mysterious biological collapse is just a few bog words, running out of resources to fuel our monstrous economy is very real and disturbingly close. And then we'll see how quickly we'll start fighting over the last spoils of mother earth.
 

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Irreversible? How do you know it can't be reversed?

100 years ago we didn't have the power to vaporize every inch of the planet's surface and we couldn't get out of Earth's atmosphere.

Who are these backward thinking scientists that they believe 50-100 years isn't enough time to shift into reverse and undo whatever damage we choose?
 

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piinyouri said:
An ice age you say?

BRING IT ON, I hate Summer and Spring.


As well, the Earth has underwent many transformations in it's long and varied past.
We will collapse, the earth will be fine.
Reminds me of something Ian Malcolm said in The Lost World (the novel, not the movie.) It basically boils down to "humans are too cosmically insignificant to completely destroy the earth, or even to destroy all life on earth, and we're too full of ourselves for believing we're that powerful. Worst case scenario, we kill all the plants and animals, including ourselves, and then the world rebuilds from a few bacteria that escaped the destruction." There's some truth to that. We'll kill ourselves, but the old rock herself will keep right on spinning.
 

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Bassik said:
Eh, the Earth is going to be fine. It survived a whole lot more then anything we can throw at it. The Permian mass extinction comes to mind, almost all life was obliterated, and the survivers went and became fucking dinosaurs, so you just know the earth is going to be fine.

It's just us that's fucked, no biggy. ;)
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I'd say this is complete bullshit.
There's absolutely no scholarly research in the entire article. The only external link is to some obscure college in Canada that perhaps 1,000 people in the world have even heard of.

It mentions studies, but never actually cites them. It's all just vague misdirections, with less factual evidence than the "2012 apocalypse."

Kodlak said:
Erm... are they implying what I think they are? Has science just condoned mass killings?!
*sigh* Maybe someday, but not today.
 

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
Guys, I got it, I know what will happen, the earth will experience a polarity shift during a pole shift and it will cause the planet to backshift
and suddenly everyone will turn into talking equines with strange coloration that live in an idealized world.
 

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DVS BSTrD said:
The Latinos are mutating!
And they are HEATING UP THE PLANET!
Dude, you had to remind me of that movie...

Just for context for everyone else:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4LxBcBad8Y
 

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JesterRaiin said:
keiji_Maeda said:
It's a good point.
Thanks. It's hard to express one's opinion in the foreign, partially unknown language with nothing except Google Translator to help. :D

keiji_Maeda said:
And i didn't mean to imply tat merely getting the hell of terra is gooing to resolve humanitys woes. But i'm unsure as to whether or not humanity as a whole will survive long enough to learn from it's problems. But on the other hand, we have to, one way or the other. But i'm still of the old school approach that space exploration'll humble humanity, but i'm pretty damn sure group A of people will fight group B. Maybe humanity'll enconuter another race, but i think it's naive to believe that all the answers are in space. A giant green skinned mentor isn't a resolution to everybodys problems.
Unfortunately, nothing short of divine intervention will be capable to finally resolve all our problems if we'll have to add astronomical distances to the Human equation. Actually... This reminds me of two stories, Farmer's "Jesus on Mars" and Heinlein's "Stranger in a Strange Land". If you'll have some spare time, i encourage you to read those novels. At worst, they present interesting visions, at best - well, you be the judge. :]

As for now, i hope for unexpected technological breakthrough of sorts. Something that will make all this stupid race to destruction obsolete. Maybe some kind of invention that'll connect all Mankind's minds into one, single consciousness or something like this. Seriously, i don't see any other way for us. With each new generation we have to learn everything from the beginning and we still make the same mistakes.
...but now we have the nukes.
i'm going to be cynical and quote pratchett and say

"As has been noted, on the Disc black and white live in perfect harmony, and all gang up against the green"

have read stranger in a strange land, it's a good book :)