Ebola Cannot Be Halted or Slowed Any Time Soon, Says New Study

[Whispering Cynic]

Oh it can be stopped, or at least prevented from endangering the rest of the world. But the people in charge won't do what must be done because it would be "cruel" or "inhumane" or whatever.

 

[FalloutJack]

Should this be part of the Escapist news? it seems very unrelated to gaming or nerd subculture, I had half expected to see something about plague inc.

I get that this kind of news is important, but this is not the place for it.

Since it's spreading out like alot of my Plague Inc. plays, I'm gonna call relevance.

 

[O maestre]

Should this be part of the Escapist news? it seems very unrelated to gaming or nerd subculture, I had half expected to see something about plague inc.

I get that this kind of news is important, but this is not the place for it.

Since it's spreading out like alot of my Plague Inc. plays, I'm gonna call relevance.

Really? No offence but that seems like you are using the wrong tactics to play. Usually I have about 75-100% of the world infected before someone notices the disease.

 

[FalloutJack]

Should this be part of the Escapist news? it seems very unrelated to gaming or nerd subculture, I had half expected to see something about plague inc.

I get that this kind of news is important, but this is not the place for it.

Since it's spreading out like alot of my Plague Inc. plays, I'm gonna call relevance.

Really? No offence but that seems like you are using the wrong tactics to play. Usually I have about 75-100% of the world infected before someone notices the disease.

I generally win, but I have not figured out how to keep under the radar for very long. If, in the spirit of things, you wished to share this unique tactic, that would be fine.

 

[Deathfish15]

200,000 cases in an overpopulated, underdeveloped part of the world.

7,000,000,000 people in the world currently.

That's .0028% of the world's overall population if my math doesn't suck too badly. That is mathmatically insignificant number that screams "who the hell cares?!".

 

[FPLOON]

So, what I gathered so far is that Ebola is like that one co-worker who has to take to bus because they don't have enough money to get their own vehicle, let alone a viable driver's licence... Now, even if they did get enough money from their own vehicle and license to drive said vehicle, they wouldn't be able to drive not that far from their house without being pulled over by the police for suspected vehicular manslaughter... and that goes double, even triple, if they were caught driving in a highly populated, yet financially (and medically) stable neighborhood... Then again, they could still get away by ducking through the alleyways and the like if they were traveling by foot, for example, but its not always a viable option of getting to work on time because, surprise surprise, some alleyways are booby-trapped to the point that they're better off giving up and going back to using the bus like as before...

Other than that, as long as those capable of handling Ebola follow whatever protocol to prevent any unplanned human-spreading of Ebola from their end as well as everyone else keeping up in standard hygiene ranging from washing one's hands to not coughing on someone's face in public and those with the potential to having Ebola reporting to their local hospital as soon as possible, we should be fine for the time being... (I was going to make a POTA analogy, but I could not think of anything clever outside of referencing Andy Serkis and his lack of an Oscar or something like that...)

 

[Sarge034]

You, uh... you realize they admitted that the nurses became infected due to a breach in protocol, right? That was the problem. They didn't follow procedure.

That being said, the sending troops thing is really stupid to me, too, since I fail to see how they'll lend any aid other than protection from those who think ebola is black magic being spread by doctors. However, preeetty sure they'd at least watch those soldiers for signs of infection when they return.

No, I had not heard that but I'd be skeptical if I had. Just so much of what I'm hearing about the different cases in the US worries me that this strain might have airborne properties. And I know the system well enough to know they value order over prevention. They would rather tell us that these people broke protocol than to say it could possibly be a deadlier strain. Not saying it is, but makes me wonder non the less.

As for the troops, I would hope they get quarantined. But I would have also thought quarantining anyone coming from a hot spot or the surrounding areas would be common sense too... But regardless of that, how many men and women are we sending to their deaths before they even get back home?

I can speak for those nurses but i have experience first hand how doctors treat contagious illnesses here in eastern europe. lets just say the precautions leave much to be desired.

Well, that's all fine and good but I wasn't talking about eastern Europe. I live in the US and know a few healthcare professionals, nurses mostly. The procedure is to not to have any skin to skin contact with a patient showing symptoms of an unidentified pathogen, or suspected contagious pathogen, and to have the patient wear a mask if sneezing or coughing. The system works so long as it is followed and everyone has the right info about pathogens to watch out for.

Actually, to my understanding (My mother is a microbologist, this is her job), there was a fairly major breech in protocol, which resulted in bare skin with minor wounds getting liquids in it.

I'll say again I was unaware of that development but I'll ask was that the case for both of them? Can we confirm, without a doubt, that this particular strain does not have airborne properties? But even at that, why has the CDC not implemented mandatory quarantine for those coming back from hot spots? Perhaps your microbiologist mother who's job this is can explain that one?

 

[BadNewDingus]

Considering that this is from a study where they compile a bunch of research from outside sources and make a educated guess ... I still wouldn't panic. Panic drives people mad and causes more harm. Of which, the media has done a great job of doing. I do believe that the numbers of which they're giving us could be false and are far worse, but it is kinda hard to hide anything like this these days.

Also, if the any strain was airborne the numbers of infected would be gigantic. It's just the fact that our nurses are not prepared for this sort of virus. Flu season is coming and if anyone is sick should stay the fuck home. I don't know how many times I've seen idiots go out shopping while sick and coughing everywhere. Those are the people that will spread it.

So people who are single, sick, and have no one else to take care of them aren't allowed to buy food and supplies to keep them from starving to death?

You do know you can buy almost anything online. And if you're sick, I'm sure you'll have food in the house before you got sick. It's not like you're going to run out of food from a couple of days from being sick.

And yes, single people have to take care of themselves or have one of your family members come over to help. We're not talking about the end of the world here. Just don't go out when you sneezing constantly and snot coming out of your nose. I know you'll just reply, "Well, what about their job." And you know what, whenever I was sick, my boss told me to go home and yelled at me for even coming to work. You'll get others sick and only cause more harm for being a trooper.

Now, do you have any snotty retort to this post?

 

[Korskarn]

Considering that this is from a study where they compile a bunch of research from outside sources and make a educated guess ... I still wouldn't panic. Panic drives people mad and causes more harm. Of which, the media has done a great job of doing. I do believe that the numbers of which they're giving us could be false and are far worse, but it is kinda hard to hide anything like this these days.

Also, if the any strain was airborne the numbers of infected would be gigantic. It's just the fact that our nurses are not prepared for this sort of virus. Flu season is coming and if anyone is sick should stay the fuck home. I don't know how many times I've seen idiots go out shopping while sick and coughing everywhere. Those are the people that will spread it.

So people who are single, sick, and have no one else to take care of them aren't allowed to buy food and supplies to keep them from starving to death?

You do know you can buy almost anything online. And if you're sick, I'm sure you'll have food in the house before you got sick. It's not like you're going to run out of food from a couple of days from being sick.

And yes, single people have to take care of themselves or have one of your family members come over to help. We're not talking about the end of the world here. Just don't go out when you sneezing constantly and snot coming out of your nose. I know you'll just reply, "Well, what about their job." And you know what, whenever I was sick, my boss told me to go home and yelled at me for even coming to work. You'll get others sick and only cause more harm for being a trooper.

Now, do you have any snotty retort to this post?

The list of things wrong with this post:

* Not everyone has a stockpile of non-preparation food. Some people go shopping when they literally have no food, not when their food is low.
* Not everyone has access to the internet.
* Not everyone has access to an online grocery that delivers in their area.
* Not everyone lives in an area where their friends or family live to get groceries for them.
* Not everyone has a job where their bosses are happy for them to go home. Many people work in jobs where they will be let go if they miss more than a day of work in a row. This includes jobs which involve preparation of food.

 

[spartandude]

200,000 cases in an overpopulated, underdeveloped part of the world.

7,000,000,000 people in the world currently.

That's .0028% of the world's overall population if my math doesn't suck too badly. That is mathmatically insignificant number that screams "who the hell cares?!".

Well when you consider that these people are still Human beings.....

 

[BadNewDingus]

Considering that this is from a study where they compile a bunch of research from outside sources and make a educated guess ... I still wouldn't panic. Panic drives people mad and causes more harm. Of which, the media has done a great job of doing. I do believe that the numbers of which they're giving us could be false and are far worse, but it is kinda hard to hide anything like this these days.

Also, if the any strain was airborne the numbers of infected would be gigantic. It's just the fact that our nurses are not prepared for this sort of virus. Flu season is coming and if anyone is sick should stay the fuck home. I don't know how many times I've seen idiots go out shopping while sick and coughing everywhere. Those are the people that will spread it.

So people who are single, sick, and have no one else to take care of them aren't allowed to buy food and supplies to keep them from starving to death?

You do know you can buy almost anything online. And if you're sick, I'm sure you'll have food in the house before you got sick. It's not like you're going to run out of food from a couple of days from being sick.

And yes, single people have to take care of themselves or have one of your family members come over to help. We're not talking about the end of the world here. Just don't go out when you sneezing constantly and snot coming out of your nose. I know you'll just reply, "Well, what about their job." And you know what, whenever I was sick, my boss told me to go home and yelled at me for even coming to work. You'll get others sick and only cause more harm for being a trooper.

Now, do you have any snotty retort to this post?

The list of things wrong with this post:

* Not everyone has a stockpile of non-preparation food. Some people go shopping when they literally have no food, not when their food is low.
* Not everyone has access to the internet.
* Not everyone has access to an online grocery that delivers in their area.
* Not everyone lives in an area where their friends or family live to get groceries for them.
* Not everyone has a job where their bosses are happy for them to go home. Many people work in jobs where they will be let go if they miss more than a day of work in a row. This includes jobs which involve preparation of food.

I can't believe you guys are giving excuses for people that don't care about getting others sick!? Hell, the flu is deadly to young and old. And you can't miss work because you're afraid to get fired or can't take the hit of missing a day of work? What about the your co-workers who are bound to catch it and in the same position as you money wise? I've worked in many fast food jobs when I was young and whenever I came down with the flu, I was told to leave by all my bosses. Hell, I even worked at headquarters in Hungry Howies and the heads were pissed that I came in sick. Sure, I didn't get paid for that time off, but I also didn't have others suffer for my stupidity.

Oh well. I'm sorry, but I call that selfish in a way. If you're living above your means for the job you have, it's time to find a new job or a place with lower rent.

Also, I'm poor and know a lot of poor people, you can get food from food banks, you can get them delivered to you by services that you don't even need access to the internet. I find it utterly ignorant that we know the flu season hits every time this time of year and people fail to stock up or at least prepare. Just because you're living in misery, don't blame others for your problems. Stay home and quit spreading it.

 

[SonOfVoorhees]

Still dont care, the media are blowing it out of proportion just as they did with bird flu. At the moment its stuck in Africa and its spread because they have zero hospital care. In the UK, USA etc we have great healthcare that can take care of the problem. All the people in UK, USA and Europe that have ebola are those that were in Africa and they caught it eg missionaries. Its still a difficult disease to catch and it kills people quick so limits infection rate. They just need to tell people with a fever to go to the hospital just in case. Africa cant stop the disease because they have crappy healthcare, are corrupt and dont have the people/equipment to quarantine and control people.

Personally i would put anyone who flew into the UK that stopped off in Africa into quarantine for a day with full tests.

 

[Artaneius]

Considering that this is from a study where they compile a bunch of research from outside sources and make a educated guess ... I still wouldn't panic. Panic drives people mad and causes more harm. Of which, the media has done a great job of doing. I do believe that the numbers of which they're giving us could be false and are far worse, but it is kinda hard to hide anything like this these days.

Also, if the any strain was airborne the numbers of infected would be gigantic. It's just the fact that our nurses are not prepared for this sort of virus. Flu season is coming and if anyone is sick should stay the fuck home. I don't know how many times I've seen idiots go out shopping while sick and coughing everywhere. Those are the people that will spread it.

So people who are single, sick, and have no one else to take care of them aren't allowed to buy food and supplies to keep them from starving to death?

You do know you can buy almost anything online. And if you're sick, I'm sure you'll have food in the house before you got sick. It's not like you're going to run out of food from a couple of days from being sick.

And yes, single people have to take care of themselves or have one of your family members come over to help. We're not talking about the end of the world here. Just don't go out when you sneezing constantly and snot coming out of your nose. I know you'll just reply, "Well, what about their job." And you know what, whenever I was sick, my boss told me to go home and yelled at me for even coming to work. You'll get others sick and only cause more harm for being a trooper.

Now, do you have any snotty retort to this post?

Yeah, I do.
* Not everyone has a stockpile of non-preparation food. Some people go shopping when they literally have no food, not when their food is low.
* Not everyone has access to the internet.
* Not everyone has access to an online grocery that delivers in their area.
* Not everyone lives in an area where their friends or family live to get groceries for them.
* Not everyone has a job where their bosses are happy for them to go home. Many people work in jobs where they will be let go if they miss more than a day of work in a row. This includes jobs which involve preparation of food.

Pretty much summarizes how wrong your post is. Most people lose their jobs if they are sick for more than a week especially if they aren't union. In democratic countries the INDIVIDUAL is more important than the community. Not everyone also has a family that is willing to do things for them, especially if they aren't getting anything out of it. If I wanted family to help me with something I would have to pay them to get it, plus pay for the actual items. Which means I might as well as get it myself.

This isn't a communist or fascist society. Where people are forced to care about others above themselves. People get sick, that's life.

 

[michael87cn]

You get ebola the same way you get the common cold. Thus, it's highly contagious. 'Bodily fluids' exit your mouth/nose with every exhalation. If you sneeze, you are basically spraying everyone inside the room/bus/plane with the virus.

Observe, and be educated as the MythBusters prove how deadly this stuff is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f4sUNWkq60

this next video will show you how to safely sneeze without infecting your fellow human being...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vw0hIs2LEg

 

[Svarr]

And this is how the end of the world started, friggin finally. :v

Was a shitty place anyway.

 

[O maestre]

Should this be part of the Escapist news? it seems very unrelated to gaming or nerd subculture, I had half expected to see something about plague inc.

I get that this kind of news is important, but this is not the place for it.

Since it's spreading out like alot of my Plague Inc. plays, I'm gonna call relevance.

Really? No offence but that seems like you are using the wrong tactics to play. Usually I have about 75-100% of the world infected before someone notices the disease.

I generally win, but I have not figured out how to keep under the radar for very long. If, in the spirit of things, you wished to share this unique tactic, that would be fine.

Nothing special really, just keep avoid mutating the disease with any symptoms besides coughing. As for transmission avoid the ones that increase mutation, and always evolve drug resistance. By the time the world is 100% infected you bring on the apocalypse!

Granted this is a general tactic and some of the more special diseases like nano-virus or necroa require other tactics


Ebola has only infected 3 countries so far, so odds are that it is still a controllable situation. That of course depends on if our governments start pitching in, not just with money but primarily with staff, right now most of the medical staff are still just volunteers. There are some problems that money cannot fix.

 

[BadNewDingus]

Considering that this is from a study where they compile a bunch of research from outside sources and make a educated guess ... I still wouldn't panic. Panic drives people mad and causes more harm. Of which, the media has done a great job of doing. I do believe that the numbers of which they're giving us could be false and are far worse, but it is kinda hard to hide anything like this these days.

Also, if the any strain was airborne the numbers of infected would be gigantic. It's just the fact that our nurses are not prepared for this sort of virus. Flu season is coming and if anyone is sick should stay the fuck home. I don't know how many times I've seen idiots go out shopping while sick and coughing everywhere. Those are the people that will spread it.

So people who are single, sick, and have no one else to take care of them aren't allowed to buy food and supplies to keep them from starving to death?

You do know you can buy almost anything online. And if you're sick, I'm sure you'll have food in the house before you got sick. It's not like you're going to run out of food from a couple of days from being sick.

And yes, single people have to take care of themselves or have one of your family members come over to help. We're not talking about the end of the world here. Just don't go out when you sneezing constantly and snot coming out of your nose. I know you'll just reply, "Well, what about their job." And you know what, whenever I was sick, my boss told me to go home and yelled at me for even coming to work. You'll get others sick and only cause more harm for being a trooper.

Now, do you have any snotty retort to this post?

Yeah, I do.
* Not everyone has a stockpile of non-preparation food. Some people go shopping when they literally have no food, not when their food is low.
* Not everyone has access to the internet.
* Not everyone has access to an online grocery that delivers in their area.
* Not everyone lives in an area where their friends or family live to get groceries for them.
* Not everyone has a job where their bosses are happy for them to go home. Many people work in jobs where they will be let go if they miss more than a day of work in a row. This includes jobs which involve preparation of food.

Pretty much summarizes how wrong your post is. Most people lose their jobs if they are sick for more than a week especially if they aren't union. In democratic countries the INDIVIDUAL is more important than the community. Not everyone also has a family that is willing to do things for them, especially if they aren't getting anything out of it. If I wanted family to help me with something I would have to pay them to get it, plus pay for the actual items. Which means I might as well as get it myself.

This isn't a communist or fascist society. Where people are forced to care about others above themselves. People get sick, that's life.

Uhm, good job with the copy and paste of anothers post? You had to wait for someone to come up with a response?

Well, the post under the list is at least new. So I'll reply to that. Again, with the selfish behavior. You only care about yourself and don't care if you get an old person sick who could die from the flu. You could get a flu shot to fight it off. Unless you're those type of people that don't believe in vaccines?

Anyways, caring about others isn't a bad thing and it isn't against being a democrat either. Answer me this, if you slip and fall or passed out at work because the flu got to you ... what are you gonna do now? You could be out of work for so long that you'll probably get disability. And thus, the government is gonna take care of you. Oh wait, no one is allowed to take care of anyone in this government because you already called that fascism.

 

[Th37thTrump3t]

That is all perfectly true.

However, it is not particularly likely to spread in any nation with a functional public health system.

This is what I've been trying to tell people who are freaking out about it. This disease spreads through direct contact with bodily fluids. So unless you get someone's blood, mucous, or saliva on an open wound, your mouth or your eyes, you won't get it. Oh and it's worth noting that coughing and sneezing are not symptoms of Ebola.

 

[SonOfVoorhees]

Not a surprise, its Africa after all. Government corruption, poverty, terrible healthcare and the inability to quarantine properly.

 

[JonSherwell]

Folks, there are confirmed cases in the US. At least two, last I heard, were nurses who treated an infected patient. So assuming these nurses followed procedures and had no skin on skin contact with a patient infected with an unknown illness how did they get infected?

Actually, if you read the news about those who treated Duncan, you'll see that NO procedure was followed, which is why those two nurses contracted the disease.