Educating Annoying Ignorances

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AnarchistFish

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launchpadmcqwak said:
people who think screamo is the same as metal...IT AINT!
Fucking this

Also people who think screamo is the same as post hardcore, or people who just think that anything with screaming in it is automatically screamo.
 

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OniaPL said:
Oh, wow; what age is your auntie? I was always under the impression that Finland was always generally very accepting towards the fairer sex from what I've read. Would love to visit some day.

OT: Person I just quoted reminded me of mine: whenever people here (in Northern Ireland) can't seem to, or outright refuse to grasp the fact that the popular Russian name "Anya" (or Finnish/German/etc. variant, "Anja", or the Polish variant "Ania") is a completely different name to "Enya", and especially "Áine". I have been plagued with people reading my name off wrong in school roles and such in the past, pronouncing it "On/Awn-yeh", or generally people seemingly not hearing me correctly, since I was no age.

It especially irks me whenever I'm in a crowd and I'm being summoned one way or another. Oh, hurrah; now everyone here thinks my name is Áine. Cheers. It's pronounced "Ah-nya"! AHH!! Like that! Americans don't bug me with it as much because I know it's just the accent when they say something in between "Anya" and "Enya", like here:

It's from 0:40-01:02

Ironic considering he's supposed to be Russian.

Áine = Irish name meaning "Fire" or "Joy". Pronounced "On-yiah".

Enya = Irish name meaning "Little Fire". Pronounced "En-Ya". Funnily enough.


Anya = Russian/Hebrew name meaning "Grace/Gracious". Pet form of/derived from the names "Anna" and "Hannah". Comes from Hebrew origin as well. Pronounced "An-ya". Funnily enough.

Speaking of names, I think New Zealand has the right idea with bannin*^ certain, ahem, 'names' to call one's child. Who in the right mind thought naming one's child after numbers and punctuation was a good idea exactly? "Harper-7"? "A-a" (pronounced "Ah-Dash-Ah", apparently. I would have said "Ahh"; FYI, oh-so imaginative creator of this wonderful name; the dash is known as a hyphen)? Really? Do you actually want your poor child to be bullied?



* http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/the-hot-button/new-zealand-bans-odd-baby-names-no-more-lucifers-dukes-or-kings/article2102204/ - Apart from being the name of the Devil, at least it's an actual name. I mean, you could always shorten it to "Luke"; not that I'd name my child "Lucifer", mind you. A couple of names in the article are fine. Like Elvis and... okay, maybe just that. The rest are. NOT. Names. Jesus CHRIST. If someone can't name his/her baby PROPERLY, they should be allowed to even have one. Sound harsh? So is naming your child something like Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116. Pronounced "Albin".

robot slipper said:
A lot of people in Northern Ireland tend to use the term colliquially as a synonym for the word "rude". I haven't the foggiest why. So, I suppose, with your given example in particular, it could be used like that here. I don't tend use the word "ignorant" synonymously with the word "rude", anyroad.
 

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The only one I can think of it's people believing hispanic is a skin colour. You can say it's an ethnicity, but not a skin colour since we are really diverse (mom's a white woman with blond hair, dad's a light-brown skinned man, and all our heritage comes from Spain with a few exceptions).
 

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Talshere said:
Climate Change.

I do a course which focuses quite heavily on climate change and the stupidity of people astounds me.
I know that there is ignorance on both sides of the debate, but I am curious if any particular ignorance annoys you more.
 

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Honestly mine are mostly about misconceiving or ignorance on fandoms. I couldn't give less of a damn if someone were to either be disgusted or ecstatic when I mention my hobbies (involved in fandoms) but it's WHY they react that strongly.

Generally uninformed people I have no gripe with, it's the ones that are uninformed AND spout shit about said things they're ignorant about that annoys me greatly.
Example: guy asks me about my hobbies, I mention drawing, and that I usually draw furry humanoid creatures, FIRST FEW things they ask are either: 1. oh are you gay or like to have sex in a bunny costume? or 2. Does that mean you fuck your dog?
...wat *facepalm*

I can't say the fandom has helped it's own reputation well, but please do some research before you accuse the other person of bestiality =/

also with my little pony: friendship is magic the same phrase can be applied:
don't judge the cake by it's decorations.
or don't rate the game before you play it
or...you get the idea.
Don't spout shit about the show before you've seen it.

sorry for rant.
[also old people who ask what I study, can't blame em, but having to explain in one too many sentences what a "game designer" do can get really annoying]
 

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Connor Lonske said:
Not tech related, but people who think pansexuality is the same as bisexuality(it's not), or those who haven't heard of pansexuality and are like "what" or "that's stupid"
I've had this explained to me before and I still don't understand how the two are so wildly different that they need to have completely different terms. If anything, it goes to show that sexuality is too ambiguous to fit into rigid terms. Where do you draw the line?

BonGookKumBop said:
My friend looked up and said, "we should outlaw all carbon."
CUT DOWN ALL THE TREES!!! ALL OF THEM!!!!!!!
 

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Aidinthel said:
Intensive purposes. That is all. *twitch*
That's a thing in the US i guess? Never heard it here in England, I'd hate that one to catch on here, but everybody I've ever heard say has gotten it right.

OT: Tech related incidents mostly, not knowing the basic parts of a computer or how it functions at all (the least you could do is know how the shit you rely on on a day to day basis works on a basic level, it's quite interesting and makes you appreciate what you are actually holding in your hand when you use your phone etc.).
Worst one I've ever heard: Wouldn't your iPod get really heavy if you put all those songs on it?
 

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Urgh76 said:
One that seems to have an actual affect on me almost daily is the ignorance of people not being able to understand that although a show has been made for small children, if it's extremely well made, we can all enjoy it immensely

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>w>
I find that claim hard to believe, if it's for small children and you enjoy it that is wrong.

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:D
 

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thaluikhain said:
I don't mind intensive purposes, in that I remember much mocking of a guy who said that while trying to impress us with his write wordy skills.

Generally, eh, I could care less.
That is some successful trolling there, I almost went for it.

OT: The main thing that bothers me at the moment is being grammatically incorrect.
 

Hipsy_Gypsy

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Jaeke said:
In guitar class my teacher said:

"Its a damn shame they don't play classics anymore on the raido. I used to design pieces for movies and other media and all they want is all the techno and dubstep stuff."

ME-"Damn right. Man i wish people knew their stuff, i don't understand people anymore. They need to play the good stuff."

Teacher-"I know, the good stuff, like Blink 182, Greenday, the classics..."

Me-/quadruple facepalm followed by smashed guitar.
Oh my Lord. Educate your teacher by making him listen to Jethro Tull; Rainbow; Bob Dylan; Deep Purple; Ritchie Blackmore, etc.! What age is your music teacher? Or nonono; if he wants classics, it's Beethoven and Mozart!
 

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BonGookKumBop said:
Talshere said:
Climate Change.

I do a course which focuses quite heavily on climate change and the stupidity of people astounds me.
I know that there is ignorance on both sides of the debate, but I am curious if any particular ignorance annoys you more.
The attitude of we are all going to die for one. It'll be AT LEAST 100 years before we see any significant sea level rise assuming we get any and we are looking at 1000+ years for the dissolution of the relevant ice masses. Most of THAT rise will actually come from thermal expansion, not melt water. Figures of 100m are bull. IF the FULL East Antarctic Ice sheet melts we will see a maximum of 60 metres ignoring thermal expansion. And people who saying the Arctic ice sheet melting will cause flooding just need to be shot for the good of the human race. Basic physics people, ice displaces its mass when in water....

I hate the media for never correctly reading articals before publishing retarded stories. I hate the general public for swallowing it whole than THEN complaining about renewable energy near their homes.

And I also hate scientists who tout climate change, at least he global warming part, as science fact, the media and politicians do this too. Its not, the error bars on most of our models are huge to the point many scientific fields would just laugh away the results and our understanding of the system is shaky at best. You will see hundreds of graphs that show since 1850 the CO2 ppm has increase ten fold but noone every shows you a graph going back, 1000, 2000, 10000, or 70 million years into the past. We have those. They show unequivocally that a world with ANY icecaps is a rare occurrence and that TWO! at the same TIME is basically unheard of.

At best we can say we as a species have increase CO2 among other green house gasses and that it is likely that this is or will begin to affect our climate. Any more at this stage is a complete misrepresentation of the data.


Every year we fail to return to an ice age (cos that is what we are due. YAY go 2000m think 13million km^2 ice sheet over the entire USA!) increases the likelihood that we are affecting the climate. And despite this rant Im actually pro preventative measures. At worst our worries are completely unfounded and we get cleaner air. Just look at the number of smog days LA and London used to get. London never gets them now and LA rarely does. This can only be a good thing. Worst case scenario we were right and we will be ready. BUT STOP WITH THE BLOODY PROPAGANDA! Present the TRUTH!
 

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My mom once said "Try highlighting on it." It concerned computers.
She meant "clicking on it." She's the kind of person who thinks that she can just make up any computer phrase and people will automatically know what it means. She's stopped doing that now, though, God bless her.
 

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Talshere said:
And people who saying the Arctic ice sheet melting will cause flooding just need to be shot for the good of the human race. Basic physics people, ice displaces its mass when in water....
I think people who talk about that are referring to the glaciers covering areas like Greenland.
 

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There does seem to be a much larger variety in American cartoon styles than Japanese manga character styles. Hm.

It bugs the hell out of me when people don't know the difference between "electrician" and "electrical engineer." As an EE major, I can't wire your house up, because I don't know all the complex rules for doing so. I can, however, design all kinds of fancy electronics. These are completely different things, even if their core theory is the same.

"Pokey-man" is not the way to say it. I swear, this phenomenon has been around for about 14-ish years now. (In 3 or so years, college freshmen can in theory be younger than Pokemon.) So say it with me: "Poh-kay-mon." What part of "O" don't people understand?
 

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thaluikhain said:
Queen Michael said:
That all manga characters have big eyes or that it's strange that Japanese people, with their eyes shaped the way they are, would create characters who look like that. First of all, no person of any race looks even remotely like a big-eyed manga character. Secondly, you know Timmy from Fairly Odd Parents? Or Bart Simpson? They don't look a bit like human beings, but that's not considered strange. So why would Japanese people stick to the photorealistic look all the time?
I remember reading an article about something like that, why Asian cartoon characters don't look Asian to Western audiences.

A basic smiley face is "default male", a female or foreigner is that modified to show non-defaultness. Because Asian stuff about Asians targeted at Asians treat Asians as the default, they don't stick any Asian markers on top.

They worded it rather better than me.
They copied the whole big-eyed thing from Disney. It makes characters look cuter. So yeah, probable one of the most recognizable anime staples has nothing to do with anime.

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There are a things that piss me off to no end simply because people take them for granted without even thinking for a second.

Like most Apple fans. Plenty of reasons posted on this thread, no need for more, they are just stupid, ignorant consumers.

"Drinking beer with a straw will get you drunker, faster" No. No it won't. It can't. You drink it slower with a straw so your kidneys can actually process more of the alcohol and not let it seep into your bloodstream. Why people believe this is beyond me, but it's VERY popular.

People using "as if" instead of "as". "As if prime minister, I promise to..." instead of "As prime minister I promise to..". It's something that happens in my language, not English, but the translation is quite accurate. It's normally used as a very cheap way to avoid cacophony when people are too stupid to substitute with a synonym that wouldn't cause a cacophony and now, due to quite illiterate people on TV (mostly pop "stars" and politicians) it's become so bloody common that a lot of people use it all the time, even when there's no chance of making a cacophony, making it even more infuriating.

As an engineering student I have a VERY large number of classmates who believe studying Language and Literature in high-school is stupid since they specialize in Maths and Physics. Pretty much all of those people are half-illiterate, can barely communicate and couldn't write their way around a library application form. These people piss me off SO much I feel like beating them over the head with a dictionary. A THICK dictionary.
 

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Hal10k said:
Talshere said:
And people who saying the Arctic ice sheet melting will cause flooding just need to be shot for the good of the human race. Basic physics people, ice displaces its mass when in water....
I think people who talk about that are referring to the glaciers covering areas like Greenland.

They really arnt. Not in the least because that is the Greenland Ice Sheet, not the Arctic Ice Sheet. If they cannot recognise the difference, they need to be shot for stupidity.
 

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Hipsy_Gypsy said:
OniaPL said:
Oh, wow; what age is your auntie? I was always under the impression that Finland was always generally very accepting towards the fairer sex from what I've read. Would love to visit some day.
She is 52... You can't use her to make general assumptions about our population since in my opinion she is a narcisissistic, ignorant idiot.

Finland, overall, has been and still is very accepting towards women. Equality is somewhat omnipresent in our society, although during the recent years some ugly xenophobia has lifted it's head. However, even if we have been very accepting towards women during the last century when equality did not have as strong of a footing as nowadays, we still had our share of problems which includes a very high rate of domestic violence.

In Finland you will not find sunny beaches or massive tourist locations, but we do have our own attractions. If you can appreciate silly, small things like the beauty of nature, you may find the experience to be rewarding.
And for lolz:

 

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Ignorance that bugs me: I was playing Mass Effect 2 as fem Shep, and dropped the controller when I got up to get the front door. The camera moved to look up Shep's coctail dress, showing that there was no model within, legs just stopped and it was black emptiness, since games do that to cut down on unnecessary polygons. My mom said it was perverted, and I tried to explain, but she did the 'my argument is louder than yours' routine.

Another bit of ignorance that pisses me off is when people demand they live in what I call 'should' land. "Oh no one CAN do that because it is illegal", "No the company you work for did NOT give you a 36 hour work shift because the law says you can't work for more than 12 hours."

Another one- a family member constantly shows they have no insight (I say something is too heavy or not positioned properly on the place they are setting an item, they yell at me because they are 'busy', then it breaks whatever they put it on or it falls over then I get blamed), incapacity to comprehend pronouns (I was walking down the street with my friend Jon. He found a dollar- wait a minute, who is "he"? You? Someone else?), but especially when this person gets looks of being an idiot- then has to yell at everyone about how "smart" they are.

Yes. Intelligence is measured by lack of brain power and yelling. I'm so proud of you.
 

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Like the misconception of the term "iPod." I work retail and I swear every single customer either believes iPods are different then MP3 players, or don't even know there's an electronic device called an MP3 player. And even MP3 player is slang! Or really just an obsolete description. Now it's Digital Media Player. An iPod is a brand of MP3 player, just like how Kleenex is a brand of facial tissue and Q-Tip is a brand cotton swab and Coke is a brand of soda. But every day I will get customers asking for "Sony iPods" or "generic iPods." Every single time.
Not everyone lives in your store, not everyone knows the distinction between these things. If someone asked for generic Kleenex or generic Q-Tips I'd be pleased enough at them recognizing that those are brands rather than classes of product, that I'd overlook the fact that to be perfectly accurate they should have asked for generic tissues or cotton swabs.

I work in tech support for a mobile phone carrier. I never talk to anyone unless they have a problem. There are three types of people with problems. 1) The ones who are reasonable and intelligent, but this just isn't their thing. They listen, they learn as we go, and I'd happily work with them all day long. 2) The ones who don't know and never will. They're frustrating to work with, but eventually you can get through it if you provide very clear instructions using whatever vocabulary they do have. 3) The ones who think they know and therefore don't listen. They misuse the vocabulary, they try to correct your vocabulary, they do things on their own even when you're trying to lead them through a very specific set of instructions, and they tend to complain the most if it takes more than 5 minutes to fix something. Something they broke by dicking around with the settings, and something that only takes more than 5 minutes to fix because they won't stop dicking around with it while you're trying to help. These people are impossible and can die of gonorrhea.

So, misusing vocabulary or using the wrong vocabulary is just a sign that they need help. It's pretty clear within the first minute which of the three groups someone falls into, and that's what you should base your contempt upon, not the words they use at the beginning. "Generic iPod" may not be the way you'd describe it, but it does indicate exactly what they're looking for. A music player that isn't an iPod, but does the same things. Someone asks for a "Sony iPod", ask them if they'd like to look at Digital Media Players from Sony. If you can't ignore their ignorance, teach them how to talk to you. You're the expert, they'll imitate the words you use. They'll probably turn around and misuse them the next day, but it should stick long enough to get you through the sale. If they keep calling it a Sony iPod after you've called it a Digital Media Player five or more times, then I'd agree to hate them.

I have no problem with ignorance. It's the people who refuse to correct themselves, when presented with an opportunity to learn, which annoy me.