Educator Group Calls For B.C. Game Ban

[Andy Chalk]

I do think that when you make games too violent and too realistic they will inspire violence.

Based on what?

When you live in a democracy you have an obligation to think about political matters and form your own opinion. But it would be unreasonable to demand from everyone to delve into every subject

*EDIT*: Sorry, I missed this. But your argument makes no sense at all. You say we have a responsibility to keep ourselves informed, then admit that you can't be bothered and base your entire defense on some hypothetical near-future scenario involving imaginary VR suits? I think I'd like something a little more concrete than that.

 

[relevantcore]

When are people going to learn that not everybody has to have the same moral values as them?

 

[Reincarnatedwolfgod]

"In the same way that we protect our children from secondhand smoke, we believe there would be a benefit from a ban on violent or sexually explicit games wherever children under 16 may be present and that the sale of these items should be tightly controlled," it continues. "Please help families keep their children from the negative effects of violent and sexually explicit video games by legislating strict rules regarding the sale and the use of these items."

comparing "violent and sexually explicit video games" to second hand smoke... really? how stupid could they be. these "violent and sexually explicit video games" are not even that bad(in fact it equivalent to other forms of media).

have they considered maybe if parents would take the time to under stand the rating system and actually regulate what there child plays. once you can do that all your require is to understand how mature your kid and you know what kind of game your kid can handle. but no that would be too hard so lets give all responsibly to the government.

Oh goody, another group of crackpots that want to ban or restrict video-games...

You know... if they say that video games make gamers violent, let's use their logic against them.

So, if video games make gamers violent, let's take a look at the most evil man in history.
Adolf Hitler.

He really liked classical music, he was a fan of Wagner and we all know Carl Orff was also on that side.

So, does that mean that everyone that listens to classical music is a neo-nazi?

He also likes sugar [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HitlerAteSugar].

you bastard you just had to bring tvtrope's in to this(i made like plural to make your post more grammatically correct)

 

[jhlip]

I don't even have the strength or will to make a solid argument against these people as I always do. So I'll just say this

Fuckin' idiots.

I am right there with you.

 

[PrinceofPersia]

I don't know the game, but I've got to go with these folks. I do think that when you make games too violent and too realistic they will inspire violence. I enjoy a good shooter just as much as the next guy, but when guts are flying across the screem count me out. A lot of gamers often claim that games can't inspire violence because it's not real, and we can tell games from reality. I call bullshit on that one, especially if the games are getting more and more realistic.

You sir/madam are entitled to your opinion but I disagree.

Regarding your first comment, I can't I simply don't have the time needed to conduct proper research and write a decent essay on the matter.

You don't have to people have done the research, find it, read it, and decide for yourself.

This shouldn't be a reason for to reject my statement though. When you live in a democracy you have an obligation to think about political matters and form your own opinion.

One problem opinion does not equal FACT. Opinions are subjective emotions and beliefs that must be discarded when doing any sort of factual research or claiming something as fact. Which the lady in the news article does not do.

But it would be unreasonable to demand from everyone to delve into every subject and read in depth debates between experts regarding said subject. The best thing you can expect is for someone to use his/her common sense, and follow that. Common sense doesn't bring everyone to the same conclusion though, so that doesn't mean that when two parties are opposing each other, that either of them isn't using their common sense.

Not everything that is common sense is correct. Remember a few hundred years back it was common sense that the earth was the center of the solar system and that the world was flat with edges you had to be careful of lest you fall off them.

 

[Raziel_Likes_Souls]

Jesus, this is coming from the province where weed is pretty much legal, and the Hell's Angels are all over.

There are real problems, like heroin addicts, the Triads, and the Hell's Angels to worry about. But no, bored housewifes probably from fucking Okanagan are bitching about video games. State of the fucking world these days.

 

[UlytimateDestruction]

God, they keep popping out of the woodwork. You've got to wonder if these people think everyone who isn't them is a serial killing rapist, really...

Agreed... You can't keep protecting kids and wraping them up in cotton wall all there life. They need freedom because its a free country. And for one kids under the age of the specified limit cannot be sold those games. There parents can or another adult with them but that will be there responsibility for letting them play it. And if you want to kill people with a kick in the nuts in saints row 2 you should because its fun to do and these people need to stop being so serious and have some fun.

 

[Kaytastrophe]

Good god, they have infected Canada too.

Although we tend to have less of the political theater when it comes to video games and media than the U.S., so I'm fairly confident it's not going to get much of anywhere..

Yes but in Canada politicians are also more willing to intervene in things that they have no reason to; unlike the U.S. as such if this truly played out in Canada there is a good chance it would happen to some degree.

 

[The3rdEye]

Videogames are no longer the default evil, and it's become widely recognized that responsible, informed parents and retailers, and not knee-jerk legislation, are the best way to keep inappropriate games out of the hands of kids.

Fixed.

If a parent deems content to be offensive to a child, it is the responsibility of the parent to limit the child's exposure to that material. It is the government's responsibility to enable parents to do so, which is why we have the ESRB and regulations regarding the sale of mature content to minors.

- or -

Stop putting the responsibility of raising your children on anyone but yourselves. I have no problem stepping outside and far away from public entrances to have a puff, but you're dead wrong if anyone's going to let you ban videogames because "I'm too busy to raise my kid".

 

[TotalHobNob]

I no longer have the sanity or willpower to give a rats ass anymore. This is what will happen more than likely. http://files.sharenator.com/and_on_that_day_not_a_single_fuck_was_given_RE_Picture_Challenge_5-s560x556-161882.jpg

This probably will sum up everybody's opinion when the law flops.

 

[GartarkMusik]

Well, I doubt that will go anywhere given that US decisions can, sometimes, influence Canada, and the Supreme Court rejected pretty much this.

Some people are likely to come here saying that this would be a good thing. They've done it in the past discussing the Supreme Court ruling.
The thing is, such restrictions and controls would serve no purpose but to waste tax money, send people to jail needlessly and generally screw everything up.
Retailers will not sell "mature" rated games to minors. They ask for ID if you look like you're a minor. Whenever I go to Gamestop here in the US and want such a game, Mommy has to buy it for me. Luckily my mother is not against gaming, nor is she ignorant and non-caring of the content.

And let's not forget that Bioware is based in British Columbia. They tend to make violent and (kind of not really) sexually explicit games.

Thanks for pointing out the bit where game retailers don't sell M rated games to minors, and ask for ID if you look like a minor. I still get asked for ID when buying games and I'm 19 years old!

 

[Reed Spacer]

Oh-ho-ho-ho...She won't live long enough to scream.

 

[Professor James]

Oh goody, another group of crackpots that want to ban or restrict video-games...

You know... if they say that video games make gamers violent, let's use their logic against them.

So, if video games make gamers violent, let's take a look at the most evil man in history.
Adolf Hitler.

He really liked classical music, he was a fan of Wagner and we all know Carl Orff was also on that side.

So, does that mean that everyone that listens to classical music is a neo-nazi?

Don't forget that Adolf Hitler was also a painter so by that logic every painter is a neo-Nazi

OT:Oh look another VIDEO GAMES ARE EVUL group and their tripe.

 

[mr-fix_it]

Why the fuck do a group for "key female educators" care about video games at all? shouden't they be more busy whit trying to improve schools as a workplace for females or something?
This seems really random for them to lash out against this subject.
Whats next? theire gonna whine about the social situation for homosexual narwals? or maybe the the financial state of Far-away-place-nobody-gives-a-shit-about-filled-whit-donkeys?

This seems a bit more random than the Saints row 3 preorder bonus.

 

[Blueruler182]

Looks like I'm going to have to register to vote... To be fair, it could only be video games or comics that made me do it.

 

[TheYellowCellPhone]

Well lady-gents at the BC, fuck that idea.

 

[Metalrocks]

these hysterical mothers. they shoulndt be allowed to breath. if you look at them, they are mostly fat and have hardly any brain.
their idea is stupid, they probably use the breaks wile driving up a hill.
like they can change the world and save the kids from these so called dangerous material. WTF we have ratings, even when its not always accurate.