Eidos Employee Fired Over "Hate Speech" on Facebook
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I think someone trying to assassinate Marois is the most exciting Canadian Politics has ever been...
Humor aside, I don't like the separatists, but assassination is going too far...
Humor aside, I don't like the separatists, but assassination is going too far...
I'm really getting tired with all thouse things around Pauline Marrois. She was a terrible Minister back in 90's she will probably be an horrible Prime Minister, and finally yeah her reinforced law 101 will be havilly libertycide... But can we stop with the death threat? she holding a minority gouvernement we will probably back in election in 6 mounths
French Quebecer or Anglophone? I just think it's a disaster waiting to happen. The Separatists are pissed off about shit that happened a couple centuries ago. They need to get over it, like the rest of the province.Talvrae said:
He should have quit while he was ahead. If he had made only his first comment, he could have at least argued that he was just making a joke, but then he had to go and take it that one step further. Heck, it wasn't even a step, more like a leap... with a running start.
And what point are you making?Chiave said:
Is it that anyone who spouts hate speech of any kind shouldn't fear reprisal of any kind? Because in Canada there are exceptions to the right of free speech when it comes to inciting hatred, so from a constitutional point he's potentially culpable.
Is it that the constitutional right to freedom of speech, including hateful speech, should apply to every statement made regardless of context and the place where it was made? Because in Canada the Charter of Rights and Freedoms sets out the right to freedom of speech subject to reasonable limits of the law. ie. Since this was against the law (see above re. Inciting hatred) then the right to freedom of speech doesn't apply to him.
Or is it simply that free speech and hate speech etymologically are comparable in that they both refer to expressing ones innermost thoughts? Because while that certainly does make the nature of the two separate entities clearer (analogous doesn't mean exactly the same by the way, just FYI. The word I think you were after is synonymous) it doesn't mean that hate speech is free speech or vice versa. In the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, the Constitution of the United States and the laws of the United Kingdom all include exceptions for hate speech. (there are other countries with laws that don't grant total freedom of speech, in fact most of them, but I won't go on.)
In fact, the UK doesn't actually have an explicit right to freedom of speech, instead it has a whole bunch of laws which prohibit what you can say. It's called Negative Right.
So constitutionally he wasn't protected under either Canadian or US Basic Rights and Freedoms. Legally he wasn't protected by Canadian or US law, and morally supporting an assassination is, at least in my opinion, highly questionable and somewhat crass.
When I saw the first few lines, I thought, "Oh, probably just some guy saying 'Grrrr I hate this person, wouldn't be too miffed if she had an accident.'" but it really changes things when there has already been an attempt on her life in which somebody died and he's outright saying she should die.
I just went through HR orientation for my new job. My company's policy is don't say anything that could negatively reflect the company on social media(publicly), but they also warned us to lock it up so it not is not public if we think there may be a concern.