And everything else good they took out. Its obvious why they took out levitate, since they made cities and the world map seperate, but just make it like morrowind and give me my flying back!Onyx Oblivion said:
Elder Scrolls 5
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Wow, there are a lot of topics about this lately.
I loved Morrowind. Oblivion had a lot of "meh" aspects - I liked the story, it was strong, but it was so dumbed down and samey when it came to gameplay and some of the world that it lost a lot of the magic that Morrowind had.
Unfortunately, I'm expecting Elder Scrolls V to include some of the horrible plot points from The Infernal City, which was a terrible, terrible book. I'll still be buying it - I'm just hoping they'll hire more voice actors, return to Morrowind-style storytelling and world creation, and update the combat system.
I loved Morrowind. Oblivion had a lot of "meh" aspects - I liked the story, it was strong, but it was so dumbed down and samey when it came to gameplay and some of the world that it lost a lot of the magic that Morrowind had.
Unfortunately, I'm expecting Elder Scrolls V to include some of the horrible plot points from The Infernal City, which was a terrible, terrible book. I'll still be buying it - I'm just hoping they'll hire more voice actors, return to Morrowind-style storytelling and world creation, and update the combat system.
hmmm I wonder what VATS would be called *thinks of VATS in elder scrolls*madbird-valiant said:
O.T. well I would expect to be a combination of morrowind oblivion and fallout 3 execpt improve the npcs please because I don't want to see a guard walk into a wall or each others for 5 min.s before realizing they're running into something
Nah, man- They should redo Buggerfall. Make it less, uh, buggy. Then we could all spend TWO WEEKS walking from one side of a current gen map the the next side.TheRocketeer said:
Of course, the epic scale of the game would probably limit the graphics, voice acting (Which I disliked anyway) and whatever else. Pros and cons.
HaltHaltHalt.
I never played Daggerfall, and I don't think many other people can claim to have done so, either. I wouldn't have anything against visiting those lands in a current-gen incarnation, though.joshuaayt said:
I could have sworn the next Elder Scrolls games was rumored to take place in Skyrim. Did that turn out to be bogus, or is that still the conventional wisdom?
And I agree about the voice acting; a design decision that effectively cuts conversation options by about %80 isn't worth it no matter how good it sounds, and it sounded pretty sub-par.
Maybe in the next Elder Scrolls, they can at least fix people's faces. People were just unbearably ugly in Oblivion, and it's nearly impossible to make a face for your dude that looks even halfway like you don't have severe birth defects.
Hopefully much like oblivion, but perhaps with more interresting main story arch, and reason to do it. In oblivion, doing everything else was a lot more fun. I didn't play it as much as Morrowind (not that I followed the main story arch there either, but the sidequest seemed more adventurous. Except the assassins and thievesguild storyarchs, that were much better written in Oblivionn.
zestamaster said:
I hope the setting increases to have breach loaded gunpowder weapons. Just saying, eternal medieval settings get boring after the first FOUR games. Believe it or not, people did advance in the Middle Ages...
I also hope that they continue the trend of great voice actors...
Gameplay wise, I hope they keep the leveling system and basic gameplay from Morrowind or Oblivion, and graphically either have a whole new engine or use the cleaned up one they used in FO3. As far as story is concerned, I would really like to see it take place on the mainland of Morrowind (as well as Vvardenfell) or Skyrim. Either way, I really hope that they either deal with the timeline immediately after the Oblivion Crisis or declare the "Infernal City" novel as non-canon.
Take everything they did right w/ Fallout 3, everything right in Morrowind, take out everything borked in Oblivion, add some reactive physics (thinking Euphoria-style here)to the combat of Oblivion, and we have pure win.
Also, I'm calling it now-- Akavir.
Also, I'm calling it now-- Akavir.
ES5? Sure.. but they need to fix some stuff. i might play it if - rant/
As long as the magic system isnt so BROKEN (aka overpowered and broken to hell ). Make it balanced yet still effective on its own.. but dont make it so good that it makes rogues, warriors.. and everything else in the game useless.
The leveling system needs to be fixed; right now it requires that you min-max to get your endurance to 100 ASAP (to stand a chance in the endgame), and to get firm control on how your attributes will get maximised points by controling your levels ups. THat system is simply BAD... and not doing it weakens your character a lot.
Repair the physic engine. Im tired of seeing ennemies all fall down by FLOATING down, or with a ragdoll that has nothing to do with a proper human skeleton limitations. Or they slide down a gentle slope or a bunch stairs made of dirt/sand/wahtever when simple friction shoudl stop them right there.
When an ennemy die he should drop like they should. Oh, and fix the bug where actors often die still holding their items in hand. .. and it would be fun if we could make ennemies lose some more equipment in combat (when they are dying or whatever) like their helmet flies off or they lose a glove, ect. It would be fun too if a heavily damaged armor/weapon changes texture a bit, having dents, scratches and bumps into it.
That NPCs stop leveling to keep the playing field even (wich is massively boring and a very poor design decision)
And we need the game to allow the options of playing warrior and rogues without being a caster -at all- to be a viable, fun and -effective- method of playing the game to its end.
Related to above point; it should not take 1000000 greasword blows to kill mister average guard.. or 9999999999*10 iron arrows...
We really should be able to bash doors/crates/chest open with brute force if magic and lockpicking isnt our idea of fun at the time... or you ran out of lockpicks.
Equipement design should look reasonably cool AND pratical (the best armor for heavy and light armor in oblivion were OMG UGLY!) and be in greater number and variety and possibly set in way that ISNT a linear power progression.. like, ultimate equipment should not always be the same at the endgame, it should deeply depends on your strategy in a meaningfull way. Of course Mods can do that to a point.. but we should not rely on it.
Making the world appear more alive, by having more random useless NPCs wandering around in town and outside of it, useless NPCS that carry arounds baskets or jars full of stuff, useless NPCS that appear to actually works on something (having a job), guards that actually patrol on the walls of cities (and can shoot acurately from there), escorted caravans that travel between cities for trade, NPCs merchants with backpacks full of whatever they sell ect ect ect. A world that look like it makes sense. Ships that travel in and out of Docks and people we see working at moving the supplies in/out of it.
Slightly more effective mod support.. It gets confusing when you have 20 mods installed and you want to clean up.
A simpler editor to allow us (newbs) to create simple objects/things easily. Like the "item wizard" in NWN1.
And it should allow up to a few players to play at the same time in coop.
/rant
As long as the magic system isnt so BROKEN (aka overpowered and broken to hell ). Make it balanced yet still effective on its own.. but dont make it so good that it makes rogues, warriors.. and everything else in the game useless.
The leveling system needs to be fixed; right now it requires that you min-max to get your endurance to 100 ASAP (to stand a chance in the endgame), and to get firm control on how your attributes will get maximised points by controling your levels ups. THat system is simply BAD... and not doing it weakens your character a lot.
Repair the physic engine. Im tired of seeing ennemies all fall down by FLOATING down, or with a ragdoll that has nothing to do with a proper human skeleton limitations. Or they slide down a gentle slope or a bunch stairs made of dirt/sand/wahtever when simple friction shoudl stop them right there.
When an ennemy die he should drop like they should. Oh, and fix the bug where actors often die still holding their items in hand. .. and it would be fun if we could make ennemies lose some more equipment in combat (when they are dying or whatever) like their helmet flies off or they lose a glove, ect. It would be fun too if a heavily damaged armor/weapon changes texture a bit, having dents, scratches and bumps into it.
That NPCs stop leveling to keep the playing field even (wich is massively boring and a very poor design decision)
And we need the game to allow the options of playing warrior and rogues without being a caster -at all- to be a viable, fun and -effective- method of playing the game to its end.
Related to above point; it should not take 1000000 greasword blows to kill mister average guard.. or 9999999999*10 iron arrows...
We really should be able to bash doors/crates/chest open with brute force if magic and lockpicking isnt our idea of fun at the time... or you ran out of lockpicks.
Equipement design should look reasonably cool AND pratical (the best armor for heavy and light armor in oblivion were OMG UGLY!) and be in greater number and variety and possibly set in way that ISNT a linear power progression.. like, ultimate equipment should not always be the same at the endgame, it should deeply depends on your strategy in a meaningfull way. Of course Mods can do that to a point.. but we should not rely on it.
Making the world appear more alive, by having more random useless NPCs wandering around in town and outside of it, useless NPCS that carry arounds baskets or jars full of stuff, useless NPCS that appear to actually works on something (having a job), guards that actually patrol on the walls of cities (and can shoot acurately from there), escorted caravans that travel between cities for trade, NPCs merchants with backpacks full of whatever they sell ect ect ect. A world that look like it makes sense. Ships that travel in and out of Docks and people we see working at moving the supplies in/out of it.
Slightly more effective mod support.. It gets confusing when you have 20 mods installed and you want to clean up.
A simpler editor to allow us (newbs) to create simple objects/things easily. Like the "item wizard" in NWN1.
And it should allow up to a few players to play at the same time in coop.
/rant
If it's actually happening, I only hope it isn't as dumbed down as Oblivion was.
I want to see the crazy abilites and weapons from Morrowind back. I'm talking about:
-Levitation
-Spears
-Throwing weapons
I want to see the crazy abilites and weapons from Morrowind back. I'm talking about:
-Levitation
-Spears
-Throwing weapons
Levitation would make me a very, very happy panda.Johnny Cain said:
OT: I just want the game to, you know, be reasonably without bugs.
When I have to install 3 user made mods to get the game to run on my PC which exceeds the specs, I think you need to bug test and optimize a bit more Bethesda.
Good things from MOrrowind /Oblivion mixed.
So, enemies have levels, that are set.
Random loot in dungeons, ok, so Morrowind with prettier graphics and a noew story (but on par with morrowind, if not better) would be good!
Edit: Also the diveristy of weapons that morrowind had, throwing stars, thorwing knives, spears, short / long blades, 1 handed, two handed, all that stuff that made morrowind how it was.
So, enemies have levels, that are set.
Random loot in dungeons, ok, so Morrowind with prettier graphics and a noew story (but on par with morrowind, if not better) would be good!
Edit: Also the diveristy of weapons that morrowind had, throwing stars, thorwing knives, spears, short / long blades, 1 handed, two handed, all that stuff that made morrowind how it was.
So... because she liked a game you didn't think is good, she automatically can't think on her own without the media?Psychosocial said:
Maybe she just, you know, liked the game. Like the majority of people here. Including me. Or are we all brainwashed by the media?
I loved Oblivion and have countless hours invested in it. I should really reinstall it, but I hate having to carry discs everywhere; there's one thing I'd hope they'd do: release it on Steam. I'd love more realism. As mentioned previously, a better physics engine, better fighting, better levelling. Fallout 3 got it quite good with levels, I thought moreso than Oblivion.
I don't mind them keeping the quick travel system, but give us a reason not to use it. Have random caravans of people moving around, meet random religious fanatics preaching the end of days on the roads, roving bandits. But not too much or it's unrealistic. For that matter, I'd like a bigger world with more space between cities. I'd also like them not to replace wolves with Centaurs, Minotaurs, and Trolls. I mean, I don't mind the occasional troll. But wolves belong in the world, too. If they insist on keeping scaled enemies, I'd suggest just allowing the possibility of a troll. Keep some enemies at low level to make you feel as if you're actually progressing.
I also would like better weather effects. Imagine trying to take a shortcut through a forest, then a fog sets in. You lose your way (fog would take away the marker on the map. NO compass in this game.). You're wandering around, with your torch and can barely see anything. You see shadows in the distance. Are they friends or bandits? Or something worse..?
Just a better outdoors element and more RP possibilities; I'd love it if the game let us set up a camp, that we have to keep relatively hidden or we'll be attacked at night.
Have a better magic system for PC. I hated having to switch to a different spell, cast it, switch to different... Ugh. Let us assign spells to numbers.
Maybe my ideas sound un-Elder Scrolls, but if so, I'd love a different game implementing this. A semi-realistic fantasy game would be amazing.
I don't mind them keeping the quick travel system, but give us a reason not to use it. Have random caravans of people moving around, meet random religious fanatics preaching the end of days on the roads, roving bandits. But not too much or it's unrealistic. For that matter, I'd like a bigger world with more space between cities. I'd also like them not to replace wolves with Centaurs, Minotaurs, and Trolls. I mean, I don't mind the occasional troll. But wolves belong in the world, too. If they insist on keeping scaled enemies, I'd suggest just allowing the possibility of a troll. Keep some enemies at low level to make you feel as if you're actually progressing.
I also would like better weather effects. Imagine trying to take a shortcut through a forest, then a fog sets in. You lose your way (fog would take away the marker on the map. NO compass in this game.). You're wandering around, with your torch and can barely see anything. You see shadows in the distance. Are they friends or bandits? Or something worse..?
Just a better outdoors element and more RP possibilities; I'd love it if the game let us set up a camp, that we have to keep relatively hidden or we'll be attacked at night.
Have a better magic system for PC. I hated having to switch to a different spell, cast it, switch to different... Ugh. Let us assign spells to numbers.
Maybe my ideas sound un-Elder Scrolls, but if so, I'd love a different game implementing this. A semi-realistic fantasy game would be amazing.