Electronic Arts Unveils The Sims 4

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CriticalMiss said:
Don't speak too soon, EA might have discovered a way to have negative quality. They've put their worst minds on this one and found a method of being really shit. They've put in a lot of practice recently.

And I have to disagree with the author. It IS shocking. But only that they are making a single player game playable offline. Think of all the dirty pirates who will steal the game!
How do you get worse then selling a game that doesn't even play?
 

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Heya, Maxis. I know the forced online in SimCity wasn't exactly popular, but don't let that dissuade you altogether from including any at all. The Sims is an ideal franchise for an online mode. Give us online neighborhoods. Let us start local businesses downtown, selling user-made content. Let us price these products how we like (minus materials costs, of course). Let us advertise in the paper and hire other players' sims, whose wages will be deducted from our profits. You have the opportunity to make an amazing small-town economy simulator and make great use of online. You could even supplant Second Life if you get this right.

Just remember to make all this optional. Some folks just wanna manage a household and carpool to work; don't take that away from them.

P.S. Thanks
 

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I don't think we need to hear "single-player and offline play is supported". I think we need to hear "single-player and offline play is the default." If you can play offline but your Sims can't advance on their career track until they have five RealFriends or you can't build a house with two stories or more than one bathroom until you've played for twenty-five hours (or bought the $9.99 DLC)...

Well. Maybe they've learned a thing or two in the SimCity debacle, maybe they haven't. Time will tell... But if you buy on day one, I'll just say you'll probably get what you have coming.
 

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Johnson McGee said:
"People are reacting badly to our Simcity DLC. We need a new game we can monetize the crap out of. What are our options?"

and lo, the promised game did reveal itself to the EA executive.
Except that they certainly started working on The Sims 4 way before SimCity was released.

I don't get the negative reaction here. It's not like Sims 3 was released last year; it was released in 2009. How does releasing the sequal to an extremely succesful series 4 years after the last one a sign that EA is monetizing the crap out of it?

And, yes, it will have tons of DLC. So what? People buy the DLC. Why would EA do anything different? Very few companies would see any reason to deviate from the obvious path of releasing a sequal and then releasing DLC. This isn't an evil corporation squeezing every last dime out of a series that they are destroying due to their evil greed. I could understand the complaints if they released a new game every year with minor improvements.

And just because some people are annoyed at expansions like "Katy Perry" doesn't mean I can't live out my pretend dreams of stardom!
 

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Anybody else think that character image looks a bit... ..lower quality than the sims in sims 3?

Looks like they are trying to go for an artstyle this time around rather than pushing the realism side... ..might not be a bad idea, as long as its modable - preferably more so than Sims 3 is.

Blasted Highlander rule.
 

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What's there to be optimistic about?
Character creation probably wont be as extensive as Sims 2 and nowhere near as fun as Saints row 2 with slider mods.
The game is hardly worth buying for the house building aspect, and the so called gameplay has only gotten more dreary with all the pointless additions.

Color me uninterested.
 

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Oh boy... I'm glad I stopped with Sims 2. Even then I only got the core game, and had a computer that could barely play it at agonizing speeds. By the time I got Sims 2 on a machine that could run it on full with no framerate hiccup, my interest in the series was gone, broken by other games I found.

And the modding... Oh God EA, what you've let it become. Seriously, compare it to other games with major modding communities, like Beth's TES or Fallout games, or Neverwinter Nights, where mods have to mostly fly under the banner of being free and fair to everyone...

captcha: real mccoy

Indeed, forget this crap and go get the original Sims - It will remind you that was the awesomeness of pre-EA Maxis, when Will Wright was calling the shots in development, and modding was a courtesy and not a "paid service".
 

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Clovus said:
Johnson McGee said:
"People are reacting badly to our Simcity DLC. We need a new game we can monetize the crap out of. What are our options?"

and lo, the promised game did reveal itself to the EA executive.
Except that they certainly started working on The Sims 4 way before SimCity was released.

I don't get the negative reaction here. It's not like Sims 3 was released last year; it was released in 2009. How does releasing the sequal to an extremely succesful series 4 years after the last one a sign that EA is monetizing the crap out of it?

And, yes, it will have tons of DLC. So what? People buy the DLC. Why would EA do anything different? Very few companies would see any reason to deviate from the obvious path of releasing a sequal and then releasing DLC. This isn't an evil corporation squeezing every last dime out of a series that they are destroying due to their evil greed. I could understand the complaints if they released a new game every year with minor improvements.

And just because some people are annoyed at expansions like "Katy Perry" doesn't mean I can't live out my pretend dreams of stardom!
I didn't say it was a bad business move, but it is an obvious cash grab. The move seems safe, lazy and pretty much par for the kind of hedged bet a large company would make. They could have taken a risk using Maxis' creative talent for a new IP but no, just make another sims.

I own the Sims 3 base game and it grates on me that the in game goals for my sims will occasionally be for DLC I don't have and that the game is so bare-bones without any DLC. But I didn't find it enthralling enough to bother spending any more on it so maybe I'm not the target audience for the game.

And no, Sims 3 didn't come out last year, but they are still releasing expansions for it so it obviously isn't dead by any stretch of the imagination.
 

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the_retro_gamer said:
"In this version of Sims we replaced simloanians with real money! Now you will have to use micro-transactions to buy all your furniture."

I was extremely disappointed with Sims 3 with the lack of cool objects(or any objects in that manner) that you could fill your house with. So I expecting no different from Sims 4.
Really, hasn't anyone but the both of us considered how much a "The Sims" game could be fundamentally broken in this age of "micro transactions", "real-money action houses", and "pay to win"?!

I hope that I am wrong, but "The Sims" seems like the perfect game to nickle and dime its players. And if there is a buck to be made by pissing off legitimate consumers, then I could bet that EA would be going after it...

Put Sims on in-game jobs? Why even bother? You can buy everything that you'll need (including A LOT of special and exclusive items) with the income from YOUR OWN REAL-LIFE JOB in our "real-money shopping mall".

I want to be wrong, I really do. I do enjoy the Sims. Still, I am more than a little scared that this game is gonna be called "The Sims 4: Rise of the Microtransactions".

EDIT: Well, it seems that there is more people seeing the big picture. I was starting to think that maybe I was overreacting...
 
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lacktheknack said:
mjc0961 said:
Is this one going to have obnoxious always online DRM be an MMO too? If so, not buying.
Read the OP again, it gives you the answer.

OT: Cautiously optimistic. If they peel features off of it again, I'll pass until the glorious moment when they FINALLY release a "The Complete Sims" edition.
...complete sims edition?

unless i'm mistaken, sims 3 is still waiting for that...

oh wait, or you can go buy all the DLC for it for over 200 dollars!

we are so lucky!

OT: Interested to see what they will do different from sims 3, but beyond that not buying it.
 

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If it has the customization of the second one with features of the third it'd be OK, but they're going to be shooting themselves in the foot if they keep most content in their stores. Even paying customers don't have much problem with pirating furniture.
 

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the_retro_gamer said:
"In this version of Sims we replaced simloanians with real money! Now you will have to use micro-transactions to buy all your furniture."
In one of the latest sims 3 expansions they made furniture that your had to buy with real world money
 

Jimmy T. Malice

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I look forward to buying this game and all of the myriad expansion packs that add in minor and inconsequential features.

/sarcasm
 

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You know I could have sworn EA talking heads have said no single player games have been given the green light.

So, was that a lie? or did they just lie to IGN? Someone, somewhere is not telling the truth, and this already causes me plenty of doubt about the viability of Sims 4.
 

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Call it right now...

Minimal feature base pack, with a cash shop for more stuff, with DLC to follow that adds all the features from the last iteration.

*sigh* I wouldnt mind it so much except they put the bloody cash shop into the game, when you go to create your character there is items from the cash shop, when your sim goes to the shops in game...there are cash shop items, hey your sim may be poor but with your real wallet you can buy the super duper item for your beloved sim right now.
You are constantly reminded of the nickel and diming going on and cant even ignore the obnoxious DLC and shop, at least not anymore.
Its like the DLC NPC in Dragon Age: Origins, the one that tells you in game on buying DLC... but much worse.

I am sure the hordes will come and tell me I should be thankful, or just dont buy it (despite me actually enjoying the game type).
 

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Diablo1099 said:
CriticalMiss said:
Don't speak too soon, EA might have discovered a way to have negative quality. They've put their worst minds on this one and found a method of being really shit. They've put in a lot of practice recently.

And I have to disagree with the author. It IS shocking. But only that they are making a single player game playable offline. Think of all the dirty pirates who will steal the game!
How do you get worse then selling a game that doesn't even play?
They could donate proceeds from the game towards an anti-game political group? Or Aliens: Colonial Marines.
 

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mysecondlife said:
Also announced (which goes without saying): Pets, Nightlife, Holidays, etc.
Not to mention Apartment Life, FreeTime, Seasons, University, Open For Business and Bon Voyage.

In all seriousness, so long as the game ships with pets, magic (witches from TS2), vampires, werewolves, TS1 Servos and Bigfoot, I'd pay for it happily.