Electronic Brain Link Lets Rats Send Each Other Thoughts

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Dukenstein

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Soon these hyper intelligent rats will build a society in a large rose bush where they discover electricity and magic only to be disturbed by a loving mother mouse looking for medicine.
 

The White Hunter

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Well if anyone wants to share thoughts with me then they made find themselves both disturbed and broken...
 

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devilmore said:
I swear I've seen a web-comic predicting this a while ago where in the end the rats were engineered so well they experimented on humans and made the same mistake humans did by trying to give humans telepathy....

Can't for the life of me find the damn thing.
I believe this [http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2881] is what you're looking for.
 

Old Father Eternity

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6th And Silver said:
bladester1 said:
Adapting this to humans would be suuuch a grea idea, rolls eyes. All you need is one hacker to fuck people up...
I agree completely. We should also never ever use scissors, because all it takes is one person to stab someone with them. *rolls eyes harder*
Actually that is a valid concern if this tech advances along the lines of cerebral implants or prolonged interaction sessions with devices akin VR or what ever you may have at that point. If someone figures out how to use the system to manipulate the minds of the people connected to it, then the consequences can be disastrous. This has potential to be more akin to wmd's than a single lunatic running around with a knife or a rifle for that matter.
 

Gilhelmi

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NO, I will never allow someone into my brain. My mind is a Sacred space that is reserved for the voice of God and His Angelic choir.

How do I know that this tech wont be used to create the Borg? Force people to think and do things, against their will, all for the betterment of the collective.

PS: Yes, I am serious on both of these counts. I think worst-case and prepare to survive it. Hooking up peoples minds is a B. A. D. - BAD idea.
 

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Halyah said:
On one hand this will lead us to technology that significantly speeds up the process of learning, which is likely something that'll be quite useful and necessary as we advance technologically, but the question is how much will this be abused and for how long 'til a war(be it civil wars or wars between countries) starts over it? Plus all the other negatives. Should be interesting to see. Hopefully we can avoid at least most of the pitfalls.
Theoretical physicist Michio Kaku put it really well (I'm gonna paraphrase): We're starting to develop technology that'd qualify as "futuristic" (Long story how they judge this, but a fascinating concept). The question is, do we use this technology to make everyone's life better, or do like we've done throughout history & kill each other with it?

I'm hoping for the former
 

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Halyah said:
Zombie_Moogle said:
Halyah said:
On one hand this will lead us to technology that significantly speeds up the process of learning, which is likely something that'll be quite useful and necessary as we advance technologically, but the question is how much will this be abused and for how long 'til a war(be it civil wars or wars between countries) starts over it? Plus all the other negatives. Should be interesting to see. Hopefully we can avoid at least most of the pitfalls.
Theoretical physicist Michio Kaku put it really well (I'm gonna paraphrase): We're starting to develop technology that'd qualify as "futuristic" (Long story how they judge this, but a fascinating concept). The question is, do we use this technology to make everyone's life better, or do like we've done throughout history & kill each other with it?

I'm hoping for the former
It will be both. Much like rocketry gave us access to space at last, it is also a tool that has been used to kill who knows how many people by now. The question is if someone steps in to put in restrictions and laws that prevents someone from abusing this on too big a scale as a complete prevention is ultimately impossible. As they say... it'll get worse before it gets better.
Very true, there will be those that abuse the technology. I don't think laws will be what prevents a catastrophic event as a result of these advancements though. Example: people pirate software & hack computers, so governments respond with bills like SOPA, which contains restrictions that could theoretically break the entire internet. More likely, the exponential increase in availability of information will allow people to better protect themselves against such threats. Maybe that's simplistic, but as a fan of open source software, I can say it's worked out pretty well so far.
I genuinely cannot wait to see how data encryption would work. Would we even need to? Can the data within an organic storage medium (brain) be directly translated to/from digital technology? Every brain works slightly different, so would our best line of defense be our own mental instability? All exciting questions I would love to see answered, for better or worse
 

GamemasterAnthony

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Um...

Should I be afraid? On another thread I likened the psionic ability of Telepathy to radio communication since both utilize similar electrophysics...even theorizing that something like this could be used except using remote links not a direct electrical connection.

So...when are we going to utilize superconductor elctromagnetism technology to emulate Telekinesis by creating a rig that allows us to control objects with magnetism via mental stimulation?
 

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Old Father Eternity said:
6th And Silver said:
bladester1 said:
Adapting this to humans would be suuuch a grea idea, rolls eyes. All you need is one hacker to fuck people up...
I agree completely. We should also never ever use scissors, because all it takes is one person to stab someone with them. *rolls eyes harder*
Actually that is a valid concern if this tech advances along the lines of cerebral implants or prolonged interaction sessions with devices akin VR or what ever you may have at that point. If someone figures out how to use the system to manipulate the minds of the people connected to it, then the consequences can be disastrous. This has potential to be more akin to wmd's than a single lunatic running around with a knife or a rifle for that matter.
My point was that just about anything CAN be hazardous in the wrong hands. But that doesn't mean we should just ignore the potential practical uses of a particular technology, it just means we have to carful about implementing it.

And if we're talking about "weapons of mass destruction", then I'll give you another example: The fact that 9/11 happened does not mean that airplanes are a bad idea.
 

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tangoprime said:
What if those 5 kilo rats plaguing Tehran get a hold of this technology?
Heh, I was going to mention the same thing. I can imagine this technology could be used to make a private rat army.
 
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this is the plot of a fair few post-apocalypse pieces of media (www.romanticallyapocalyptic.com) just saying. though I am sure it would have it's uses, I wouldn't connect to a network with it. I just know someone would put pornography over my vision or something like that.
 

Generic4me

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This was in RATS. Not humans. Temper your expectations a little.

I understand it's an awesome idea, and all the things you could do with it, but also understand that a Rat and a human are two very different things. Whether or not it can even work, what unintended consequences it will almost undoubtedly have, how insanely expensive it'll be to research, and the very good possibility that the only thought we will be able to transfer is "EAT POTATO". Never mind trying to send thoughts cross-species, or if the human brain even processes thoughts the same way as Rats.

I'd be surprised if we've done anything with this in 100 years.

*Side note, How exactly are these scientists getting funding for these kind of projects? Do we just hand out free money to any idiot that says "Hey let's stick a wire in two rat brains and see what happens"?
 

Deryl Owens

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The worst case scenario always starts off innocent just like this did: Seeing what's possible and learning things. When this becomes sufficiently advanced, abuse will be a reality in the form of forcing people to agree with your politics. Do you want to take the chance that this is going to be your opponents? The only way to safely ensure this technology is not abused is to use it to prevent people from abusing it. You might think I'm putting the horse way ahead of the cart here but what if I'm right? You wouldnt want your opponents using this to take your free will and thats why its just as wrong if you want to use it against them. It only makes sense to have this conversation now so noone can use ambiguity to legalise slavery.
 

Callate

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Simply put:

"You wouldn't be concerned about a neural uplink unless you had something to hide, Mr. Johnson."
 

Atrocious Joystick

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Whatever technology comes from this could be the most awesome teaching tool ever. Imagine a world were everybody knows everything. Schools could be put out of use and the unemployment problem would be solved forever.
 

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doggie015 said:
bladester1 said:
Adapting this to humans would be suuuch a grea idea, rolls eyes. All you need is one hacker to fuck people up...
All it takes is one rouge mind and...


People can turn you quite literally into a human proxy... If it goes to humans I am NEVER getting this augmentation without assurances that it cannot act as an implanted hack-wire
Direct intervention is nesicary

But seriously, this is slightly frightening