Ellen Page Nudity in Beyond: Two Souls Triggers Aggressive Sony Response
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They didn't need to help people exploit it, though.Ldude893 said:
It's not an issue of patching it out. People already have access. I doubt they just posted it directly to the internet with not intermediary.CriticalMiss said:
The descriptions said you follow her through like fifteen years of her life. I'd assume it comes from later.Gearhead mk2 said:
The big issue, evidently, is that this is content that wasn't supposed to exist. I mean, did anyone read the article?Niccolo said:
She should have expected the studio itself to make anatomically correct versions of her that were unnecessary to the final product but contained, obviously.an annoyed writer said:
No, seriously, what about that train of thought strikes you as reasonable. This isn't "Rule 34." This isn't someone making a nude patch or adding textures to a scene. This was done in-house.
Nothing she said really sounded "mad." She even qualified the statement by saying she should probably be flattered.04whim said:
That's about as innocuous as you can get.
I'm more jaded than anything about it, honestly. Cage has a history of putting nudity in his games, and I simply wasn't surprised about this showing up, since it sounds like something he, as a director, approves, whether the actors/actresses like it or not.Zachary Amaranth said:
Someone might have pointed this out already, but I felt like interjecting my knowlege of Mass Effect trivia for very little reason. That's exactly what they did for the romance scenes in ME1, in addition to tastful camera angles (nothing important showing). Although jury's out on whether that was to avoid this sort of thing, or just because they didn't wan't to bother making a fully detailed nude model for a 15 second scene (not to mention that it would have to be dynamic because Shepard's skin color can change). Either way, better option.thaluikhain said:
OT- Not that I was really complaining at the time, but the sex/nudity in Heavy Rain seemed pretty pointless. I don't know about the context in Beyond Two Souls, but if it's more of the same, that would make the situation even more awkward for sony to explain. One has to wonder how long the cinematographers and animators spent with that scene:
"Hey guys, hows that shower scene coming?"
"Uh.... *(hushed whispers: tell them we need another week)* We need another week or two boss!"
"Okay then..."
No, I thought I'd just comment on a story like a dipshit. Of course I read it. And since Quantic Dream didn't scan her naked body into the game without her consent, I don't see what the big deal is. Yes, there's possibly a 'no unauthorised nudity of me' clause in Ellen's contract, but the whole thing can only really be accessed with a developer console. Quantic Dream has a history of pulling this kind of crap, contractually bound to not do this or whatever, so honestly I find myself thinking "it's just some boobs, give it a week and we'll all be talking about something else."Zachary Amaranth said:
Oh, the stupid is very strong with every facet of this story.
My condolences go out to Page there. She must be getting really annoyed about all of the recent debacles about her. If she didn't know that her CGI figure was this... detailed, someone is SO dying.
My condolences go out to Page there. She must be getting really annoyed about all of the recent debacles about her. If she didn't know that her CGI figure was this... detailed, someone is SO dying.
How is Quantic Dreams still making games and why would a successful actress agree to be in one of them?
Uh, guys? She has nipples. No vagina. No pubic hair. NIPPLES. I fail to see how that is "full detail". More importantly, it's SOP for studios to design their models naked; it allows you a greater fidelity. Usually they're barbie doll models, but nipples are usually included in things that are supposed to be realistic. Why? Because they can have an effect on the clothing. The clothes are added later. Now, if you had a character doing a shower scene, you'd have her naked, right?
Honestly, I fail to see how this has any bearing. It's not like these "are" Ellen Page's nipples. They're probably around the right size (since she did mo-cap for the game), but they aren't modeled on her breasts. And even then, how is nipples "full detail"? Plenty of games have nipples on their stock models. It's not that much of a big deal.
Honestly, I fail to see how this has any bearing. It's not like these "are" Ellen Page's nipples. They're probably around the right size (since she did mo-cap for the game), but they aren't modeled on her breasts. And even then, how is nipples "full detail"? Plenty of games have nipples on their stock models. It's not that much of a big deal.
RicoADF said:
No I just checked it out, they rendered her ladyparts with pubes and all. (Thanks for obligating me to actually do that by the way.
)And wow it is actually quite detailed and realistic, creepy. I do agree totally it is Sony covering their ass as they are probably rubbing their hands with glee at the free Ellen Page naked press this is getting.
I'm honestly not sure what they expected. You're making a game with a female protagonist. Someone, somewhere, is bound to try and get some sort of nude images of them. It happened to Lara Croft way back in the day (though I think she wasn't really modelled on a real person to the extent Jodie is to Ellen Page). I guess this is the sad nature of the games culture we live in.
Just a quick, slightly unrelated question about BTS, was the shower scene required? Was it tasteful? Just curious.
Just a quick, slightly unrelated question about BTS, was the shower scene required? Was it tasteful? Just curious.
In that case disregard my previous post, although it is still likely the model you see ingame without cloths on. This isn't that uncommon as models of people on model sites are anatomically correct, so it appears to be standard for models. A quick search on turbosquid etc of people will show lots of 3D male/female models that are correct, with and without cloths.Lono Shrugged said:No I just checked it out, they rendered her ladyparts with pubes and all. (Thanks for obligating me to actually do that by the way.
And wow it is actually quite detailed and realistic, creepy. I do agree totally it is Sony covering their ass as they are probably rubbing their hands with glee at the free Ellen Page naked press this is getting.
Isn't content control of that kind usually the role of the publisher's production department?
Or of the first party? I know for a fact that Nintendo's Lotcheck team takes content VERY seriously.
So, erm, who's the First Party? Sony.
Who's the Publisher? Sony.
Who missed that? Sony.
Who is getting mad after the fact? Sony.
Notice anything?
Or of the first party? I know for a fact that Nintendo's Lotcheck team takes content VERY seriously.
So, erm, who's the First Party? Sony.
Who's the Publisher? Sony.
Who missed that? Sony.
Who is getting mad after the fact? Sony.
Notice anything?
I guess it makes sense that they'd render the entire body. Anything less and it'd be too few polygons to accuratly capture emotions (Yes, I know character models are generally fully rendered regardless, just joking).
It's not like it is actually ellen page's body. It's still just 1's and 0's and it's only the fact that it was modeled after a known star that makes people pay attention. Weird as I've never thought of her as a physically attractive actress. I've always enjoyed her character's personalities and she's pretty. But I never thought of her body as anything particularly above average.
It's not like it is actually ellen page's body. It's still just 1's and 0's and it's only the fact that it was modeled after a known star that makes people pay attention. Weird as I've never thought of her as a physically attractive actress. I've always enjoyed her character's personalities and she's pretty. But I never thought of her body as anything particularly above average.
This has nothing to do with sex in gaming and everything to do with "Oh, you goddamned pervs, what the bloody hell".Me55enger said:
Can't say I'd be very impressed if I shot a scene in a mo-cap suit where I was, say, sleeping, and the devs then rendered the scene complete with my dick and covered it with a blanket, hoping no one would notice.
I'm not exceedingly attractive either, so don't bring up that silliness of "well, she's not a stunner, so what does she care?" It's an incredibly stupid and demeaning thing to bring up.
I went and found the pictures and I don't see what the big deal is. During normal gameplay nobody is going to see the digital breasts in question.
As to why the devs modeled them to begin with; maybe it's SOP to do a full detailed model, maybe they weren't sure exactly what they wanted to show, or maybe they didn't know what would show until they nailed down all the character motions and camera angles.
In any case, if Sony wanted the discovery to go away, they should have just stayed quiet and let the brief interest in it flare up and quickly die. Instead they've built a stage around it and put a spotlight on it.
As to why the devs modeled them to begin with; maybe it's SOP to do a full detailed model, maybe they weren't sure exactly what they wanted to show, or maybe they didn't know what would show until they nailed down all the character motions and camera angles.
In any case, if Sony wanted the discovery to go away, they should have just stayed quiet and let the brief interest in it flare up and quickly die. Instead they've built a stage around it and put a spotlight on it.
Why, David Cage? Why do all of your games have nude models which go unused, and someone finds them, and it causes an uproar? You're laughing right now, aren't you?
David Cage sucks. And this is kind of creepy because Ellen Page could pass as a young boy.
David Cage sucks. And this is kind of creepy because Ellen Page could pass as a young boy.