Elon Musk's purchase of Twitter may soon go through

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my thoughts on Musk buying Twitter is that if he makes too many changes to it, twitter will be ruined and a competitor will take its place, and if he doesn't make many changes then there really isn't much to discuss.
Welp. He did make a lot of changes.

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Should be moving to Mastodon instead. But at least BlueSky has some of the benefits of a decentralized platform.

For mastodon (fediverse Twitter)/lemmy (fediverse Reddit) I use the SDF servers. Not only are they a non-profit that does network and retro-computing focused services that's literally older than the web (they started as an anime dialup BBS, the name is a Macross reference) but their policy on federation is they federate with *everyone* and leave it up to the users what they do/don't want to see.
 

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How does that translate to moderation?

Some of us remember the Wild West. *shudder*
So, the way Mastodon/Lemmy are structured is similar to email or the web. Each Mastodon/Lemmy instance is it's own thing, and unless they disable the feature (which Truth Social does, for example) then the various instances talk to each other to allow users to interact between instances. Each instance can moderate it's own instance however it likes, and can block other instances from talking to it if desired (called defederation). There is no central control or moderation that extends between instances.

So for Lemmy, the admins of an instance have the same sort of level of control of that instance as Reddit admins do and individual community moderators have control of their communities. A given instance presumably talks to other instances and shares comments and communities between them, allowing users from one to comment on threads on the other and so on.

For example, there's a Lemmy instance called lemmygrad.ml that is more or less explicitly communist. There used to be one called burggit.moe that was contentious because it allowed loli. There used to be one that was more or less openly white supremacist called explodingheads.somethingoranother. There's one called rqd2.net that's created by a radqueer weirdo to talk about radqueer stuff. DBZer0 is largely about piracy. Probably the largest instance is lemmy.world and it's pretty middle of the road on most things. The instance I use is lemmy.SDF.org. All but those last three are/were pretty commonly blocked by many instances.

So, let's say the admin tankies on lemmygrad.ml don't want to communicate with anyone on explodingheads because they're a bunch of Nazis. Lemmygrad defederates form explodingheads and now explodingheads communities do not appear on lemmygrad and vice versa and users on lemmygrad cannot see any posts or comments by users on explodingheads - as far as anyone using Lemmygrad is concerned, explodingheads simply doesn't exist and vice versa. If Lemmygrad didn't choose to do so, lemmygrad community moderators could choose to ban explodingheads users or moderate posts/comments by them. If they still yet didn't then you as an individual Lemmygrad user could choose to block individual communities from appearing in All, block individual users, or block anything explodingheads from appearing to you. None of this prevents explodingheads from existing as such, and none of it prevents users on any other instance from being able to see or interact with explodingheads users should they choose to do so - there is no protocol-wide central command or trust and safety, in the same way there's no protocol-wide central command or trust and safety for HTTP or email, but individual websites or email providers can block connections to others or moderate what happens in their own backyard.

I personally use SDF's Lemmy server. SDF doesn't defederate. Which means that my All feed includes anything from anywhere, unless I choose to block an instance or community from my listing. But if I used say Lemmygrad instead then any post, comment or community from any instance on the blocked instances list at https://lemmygrad.ml/instances would be missing. Most instances have their own version of that list posted publicly, just like most have public modlogs.

Beyond that, individual community moderators can moderate as they see fit for their community. So if you found a sufficiently anything goes community on a sufficiently anything goes instance you'd have something like The Wild West, but most instances and most communities don't go there and any that did would likely get defederated by several of the larger instances for being more trouble than they are worth.

A common one that isn't defederated super often but lots of individuals block is lemmynsfw.com, which is almost entirely porn communities. A lot of instances explicitly do not host porn communities, meaning you can eliminate 99% of possible porn from appearing in your All feed by blocking the one or two instances that host most of it as an individual. Very little of it ever makes it to the top few pages if you sort by Active (the default) anyways, but if you want to be sure...

TL;DR: It's better not to think of Mastodon as "like Twitter", but "like a bunch of little Twitters that can seamlessly tweet at each other if they so choose", and likewise for Lemmy and Reddit.
 
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Welp. He did make a lot of changes.

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Congratulations blue sky! You are twitter, but way much better and not run by a complete sshitheads.

How does that translate to moderation?

Some of us remember the Wild West. *shudder*
If you are looking for great moderation on the forums, then I do recommend SpaceBattles. They can't be overly strict at that times depending on one what part of the thread you are on, but they are thorough.
 

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An AI game studio? Is that making games using AI? If so, one imagines the results to be...interesting.
If it's anything like the attempts at fully AI generated games I've seen so far, they'll be blatant ripoffs of existing games. Except worse, because AI has no concept of object permanence, and the castle or whatever else in the distance will no longer be there if you do a 180 and then turn around again. Might be a canyon this time. Enemies you killed before will be there again. Tho it might be different ones this time.
 

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Humanity's most embarrassing virginal hypocrite Elon 'pick-me' Musk now claiming he wants to make AI game studio.I, however, recommend he should just [REDACTED] himself instead and save us all the hassle

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There is the biggest oxymoron and contradiction ever seen.
 

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Because nothing says small guy standing up against the massive corporations like the guy who is running Tesla, X, and is now one of the higher-ups in the government.
To be fair, there's a reasonable possibility that the Trump administration will stand up to the massive corporations. But only the ones Trump doesn't like.

I am sure that any corporation that pays sufficient obesiance will find actions against them disappearing or being kicked into the long grass, and any that rock the boat risk the weight of the federal government set upon them. Despite the best efforts of 40 years of neoliberalism to pretend otherwise, the full weight of the US government is extraordinarily heavy.

If the idea is to roll back "woke", corporations could be extremely compliant. Corporations are there to make money. Many might not like fascism on many levels, but you can be sure that the minute the fascists take over, the corporations will be as co-operative, chummy and servile to fascists as they need in order to carry on making money.
 
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To be fair, there's a reasonable possibility that the Trump administration will stand up to the massive corporations. But only the ones Trump doesn't like.

I am sure that any corporation that pays sufficient obesiance will find actions against them disappearing or being kicked into the long grass, and any that rock the boat risk the weight of the federal government set upon them. Despite the best efforts of 40 years of neoliberalism to pretend otherwise, the full weight of the US government is extraordinarily heavy.

If the idea is to roll back "woke", corporations could be extremely compliant. Corporations are there to make money. Many might not like fascism on many levels, but you can be sure that the minute the fascists take over, the corporations will be as co-operative, chummy and servile to fascists as they need in order to carry on making money.
I would say that, unless Musk falls out, it will also include corporations Musk doesn't like. Eg. Regulations on every other EVs except Tesla

But that's a pretty big if. Trump changes who he approves of almost as much as he changes underwear... or nappies
 

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Congratulations blue sky! You are twitter, but way much better and not run by a complete sshitheads.
Do you know what is going to be the worst part? Conservatives will say that people moving to Blue Sky etc is dividing the country and pretend they weren't the ones doing the dividing in the first place

The cycle repeats again.
 

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Do you know what is going to be the worst part? Conservatives will say that people moving to Blue Sky etc is dividing the country and pretend they weren't the ones doing the dividing in the first place

The cycle repeats again.
Sucks to be them, don't care for their lies, and they can all fuck off and get river stomped in the groin with spiked dancing shoes.