Emo hate

[Doclector]

Jeez, I'm opening a can of wor...a resonance casca...a portal to hell here. But this has been bugging me for a while.

Basically put, what do you think of the constant barrage of the words "emo" and "angst" thrown at people who are...less than positive?

Only read this part if you give a s*** about my opinion!

I think people are a little hasty in this. *and tho, Doclector did raiseth his mighty flame sheild, althoughst it would probably be as effective as stopping a freight train with wet paper* for one thing, we all feel s*** at some point. Heck, there are many reasons to feel s*** right now. The economy, music sucks at the moment, hipsters, the economy, the norway shootings, the idiots running the economy...so on. Aren't we being a little harsh on people whose only crime is feeling crap? Even if they have bad reasons to feel crap? I'm pretty sure we've all at some point felt crap without things being that actually crappy.

For another thing, teen angst. Fact is, being a teenager is hard. As a teenager, you're expected to be responsible as an adult, but you're given practically none of the rights of one, or the freedom. Meanwhile, your body is surging with all sorts of urges, which you're often expected not to act upon. And if you do act upon them, good luck cutting through a load of coded communication.

We may not see it now, but being a teen was hard, especially at the time.

Also, discussion value. It's now becoming common that anyone with a viewpoint that doesn't pee rainbows and s*** chocolate is called emo for it. This can only lead one way, eventually people who aren't positive will drop out of debate altogether leaving things one sided and well, f***ing dull.

And finally, there's the risk. What if the guy you're calling an emo next actually is seriously depressed? What if such a barrage of hate pushes them over the edge? I'd rather humour a hundred actual Emos who have nothing to truly complain about than be responsible for driving the suicide of one actual case of depression.

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

But it isn't just people who feel crap. It's the teenagers living in a sheltered life they take for granted, complaining about how life sucks, and how it's nought but suffering. They don't have a fucking clue! They haven't worked to make their money, they haven't had to deal with a truly difficult time in their life. Most of them are either following some kind of fashion statement or just want attention.

 

[weker]

I didn't know people had so many issues with "emo", but I guess the only people that do are the same Ignorant Tories that flood my area. Cool Story: My area is a 50/50 split of Tory and Liberal, but when one of the higher up Tories caught wind of it they include an area which was 90% to sway the votes.

 

[Superior Mind]

People are hasty in labeling anything slightly angst-y as emo in the same way they'll label someone a hipster if they talk about a band or film that may be lesser known. People are obsessed with applying labels to things.

 

[Astoria]

The thing is that 99% of people claiming to be 'emo' really aren't and are just looking for attention. They love any sympathy they get and it only encourages them. You can usually tell which ones are actually depressed. If you try to befriend them and they try to get you to be like them then they're a fake but if they just enjoy your company they're more likely to be actually depressed.

 

[Kargathia]

So far none of the truly depressed people I met stole their mother's eyeliner.

Just sayin'

 

[CrashBang]

I agree with most of the things you said, actually. I throw the term 'emo' around as a joke sometimes but everyone is entitled to feel frustrated or even behave melodramatically sometimes.
However, there are people who do behave 'emo' and should be called out. People who beg for attention like a 2 year old in a supermarket. Those people are douchebags and need to know it.

 

[Jazoni89]

Emo is still a fashion nowadays? I recalled that it died out a couple of years ago, and all the teens became Topman wearing Indie scenester's (at least in the UK that is, when it was popular around 2005/06).

I've seriously never seen a Emo teen for at least two years.

 

[mgirl]

Having known so many people with diagnosed clinical depression, I know how hard it can be to deal with real issues... At the same time, I've also known the people who ***** and moan about how hard their perfectly normal lives are. For example, I once knew a girl, who described her 'awful week' to me, in which she suffered from hayfever, trapped her hand in a door and was told off for making too much noise at 1 in the morning, and asked me 'why is my life so haaard??'

I would have found it funny, if it werent for the fact that at the same time, my grandfather had died just a week before, and a couple of months before that, I had to have a serious talk with a close friend about how she had to stop cutting herself and seek help.

Those people need perspective. Seriously. And wow, that was a longer rant than I intended!

 

[Robert Ewing]

Emo's were more of a 00's social trend, but I guess you can still find a few around.

But the general hatred is that these teens are hormonal enough to become depressed, and therefore aspire to this social trend. Them being depressed is fine. Hormones and stuff can do a lot to a person. But then they go and do things like making it obvious that they're depressed.

If any of you remember Bebo, a lot of stuff on there was Emo kids whining about how much their life sucks, and how pointless life is. Shut up... seriously. If you're depressed, fine that's cool by everyone else i'm sure. But the second you start letting people know you're depressed it's just like...

"Waaah, I'm so depressed!... Did I mention I'm depressed? Dude, can you hear me? TAKE PITTY"

So that's the emo hate thing. I personally don't mind them, the aforementioned problem is the only problem I have with them, but generally I like their style, (Music in the later years of the 00's are... questionable.)

But I hate the subculture that formed from this subculture. Scene kids. Eurrghhhhfdgsdlfgs

 

[ShindoL Shill]

Emo is still a fashion nowadays? I recalled that it died out a couple of years ago, and all the teens became Topman wearing Indie scenester's (at least in the UK that is, when it was popular around 2005/06).

I've seriously never seen a Emo teen for at least two years.

same here.
i've been called an emo and i really dont get why. i'm more offended when people assume i'm a stoner, and thats just because i look like i havent slept in 6 years. if you're worried, i have. i've also been called a fag, because people call people names. because people are mean. and twats who assume anything that doesnt mean a part of 'heterosexual who listens to the same type of music as me' is an insult.

 

[Doclector]

Having known so many people with diagnosed clinical depression, I know how hard it can be to deal with real issues... At the same time, I've also known the people who ***** and moan about how hard their perfectly normal lives are. For example, I once knew a girl, who described her 'awful week' to me, in which she suffered from hayfever, trapped her hand in a door and was told off for making too much noise at 1 in the morning, and asked me 'why is my life so haaard??'

I would have found it funny, if it werent for the fact that at the same time, my grandfather had died just a week before, and a couple of months before that, I had to have a serious talk with a close friend about how she had to stop cutting herself and seek help.

Those people need perspective. Seriously. And wow, that was a longer rant than I intended!

Pffft, please, it's minuscule in comparison to some of my rants about modern cinema.

I get what you and some others have said though. I have been through a whole lotta s*** in my life, and to hear people think their relationship (Whut is "reee-lay-shun-ship?") is falling apart (and thus their entire life is) because their girlfriend isn't letting them watch top gear annoys me to no end.

But you gotta be careful. Especially if you have had a s***ty life so far, because I have seen things degenerate into an absurd "whose life kicked them in the balls more" argument when two people have had similar levels of s***tyness, but both think they had it harder than the other, and thus they call each other Emos.

I don't think much else I've ever seen has tread the line between "funny" and "reason to nuke the site from orbit" so finely.

 

[OmniscientOstrich]

that was a longer rant than I intended!

You call that a rant? This is a rant! Yup, I pretty much just quoted you, solely to make that lame reference. You can go home now.

Anyway, I don't really feel the need to deride someone just because of their attire; someone with a long parted fringe over one eye isn't necessarily going to be a manic depressive, I've met quite a few who are contrarily quite chipper. I think as far as the emo sub culture goes a lot of people tend to give them shit based on immediate appearances without getting to know them which is unfair. That being said, there are certain people within this sect who seem to actively want to be depressed, shrugging off any attempt to connect with them through a pauciloquent, melancholic, retort pertaining to their misery that no one can seem to understand, probably because they don't even let people approach them. Those kinds of people are dicks who are more deserving of a kick up the arse, but I can just leave them to their misery, I don't feel the need to pick on them. But I don't get why people who simply walk around with a miserable expression seem to elicit some kind of personal offence in other people. Sometimes I'll be sitting alone with a sour look on my face when having lunch or whatever, but if someone approaches me in a friendly enough manner then it behooves me to at least return the favour. I'm quite a miserable person but I don't burden my friends with that shit and generally just act fine around them, as a lot of the time I'm happy to see them. Basically I'll only act like a dick to those who act as such, but if they're reasonable then I can get along with them well enough. This is the thing, I think emo's get a lot of shit simply for adopting the attire and musical tastes of that subculture rather than because the people themselves are whiny, innefectual and myopic pricks. Though even if they are, what harm are they doing you? Let 'em wallow in their misery, don't think your doing them any fucking favours by feeding their ego and vindicating their sense of self-loathing and despair with your derision.

 

[mgirl]

But you gotta be careful. Especially if you have had a s***ty life so far, because I have seen things degenerate into an absurd "whose life kicked them in the balls more" argument when two people have had similar levels of s***tyness, but both think they had it harder than the other, and thus they call each other Emos.

Absolutely. I am fully aware that my life has actually been fine, and I have no reason to complain. For people who have genuine reason to think their life has been awful, I sympathise, it's the aformentioned attention seekers that complain how 'nobody understands my awful middle class life' that bother me.