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[Perwer]

And as for the most harnessed and controllable energy, I'd say kinetic. We can go a whole day without looking at an artificial light (theoretically, but it'd probably be pretty hard ), but in order to even just move ourselves we need kinetic energy. Plain and simple.

I think you have the wrong idea about kinetic energy. We move because we can harness the energy in the food we eat, and turn it into kinetic energy. (which we then harness to type on our keyboard so I suppose you're right...)

 

[Booze_Hound]

And as for the most harnessed and controllable energy, I'd say kinetic. We can go a whole day without looking at an artificial light (theoretically, but it'd probably be pretty hard ), but in order to even just move ourselves we need kinetic energy. Plain and simple.

I think you have the wrong idea about kinetic energy. We move because we can harness the energy in the food we eat, and turn it into kinetic energy. (which we then harness to type on our keyboard so I suppose you're right...)

Yeah, "Chemical" (EM) is the most harnessed form of energy we use - for power production. Followed by Nuclear.

 

[Maze1125]

I can.
The equation E=mc^2 is an equation of mass-energy equivalence, not transference.
Mass and energy are one and the same, they don't turn from one to the other, they are each other.
When a particle meets its antiparticle and they turn into photons, that isn't the creation of energy, it's the release of energy that was already there, just in the form of matter.

Indeed but that matter must be broken up or at least modified in SOME way for it to be actual energy rather than something common like a sandwich, we can't just lay it down and wait for it to blow, electrons/protons/neutrons must be set loose but altogether they do not act like an energy particle but rather a physical thing therefore they aren't trully enregy.... yet

Atoms have to be broken down to get usable energy, yes.
But, nevertheless, anything with mass also has energy equivalent to that mass.
Equally, anything with energy, also has mass equivalent to that energy.

Energy is not created or destroyed in nuclear reactions, only released.

It all depends, in my definition energy and matter are separate things regardless of their relation due to their huge difference in behavior.

Well your definition disagrees with reality.
Primarily because there is absolutely no difference in behaviour between mass and energy, only an apparent difference.

Can energy be touched? I thought not

Define "touched".

Well moving or moved by a physical object ex: rather then soaking into a brick wall it would push it without dying out and transfering into it

Well, in most cases, a single electron would transfer into a wall rather than hit against it, does that mean electrons can't be "touched" and are therefore not matter?

 

[Hades74]

I can.
The equation E=mc^2 is an equation of mass-energy equivalence, not transference.
Mass and energy are one and the same, they don't turn from one to the other, they are each other.
When a particle meets its antiparticle and they turn into photons, that isn't the creation of energy, it's the release of energy that was already there, just in the form of matter.

Indeed but that matter must be broken up or at least modified in SOME way for it to be actual energy rather than something common like a sandwich, we can't just lay it down and wait for it to blow, electrons/protons/neutrons must be set loose but altogether they do not act like an energy particle but rather a physical thing therefore they aren't trully enregy.... yet

Atoms have to be broken down to get usable energy, yes.
But, nevertheless, anything with mass also has energy equivalent to that mass.
Equally, anything with energy, also has mass equivalent to that energy.

Energy is not created or destroyed in nuclear reactions, only released.

It all depends, in my definition energy and matter are separate things regardless of their relation due to their huge difference in behavior.

Well your definition disagrees with reality.
Primarily because there is absolutely no difference in behaviour between mass and energy, only an apparent difference.

Can energy be touched? I thought not

Define "touched".

Well moving or moved by a physical object ex: rather then soaking into a brick wall it would push it without dying out and transfering into it

Well, in most cases, a single electron would transfer into a wall rather than hit against it, does that mean electrons can't be "touched" and are therefore not matter?

It would appear so

 

[Maze1125]

Well moving or moved by a physical object ex: rather then soaking into a brick wall it would push it without dying out and transfering into it

Well, in most cases, a single electron would transfer into a wall rather than hit against it, does that mean electrons can't be "touched" and are therefore not matter?

It would appear so

So, basically, you're completely redefining what matter is, just to fit with your argument?

 

[Hades74]

Well moving or moved by a physical object ex: rather then soaking into a brick wall it would push it without dying out and transfering into it

Well, in most cases, a single electron would transfer into a wall rather than hit against it, does that mean electrons can't be "touched" and are therefore not matter?

It would appear so

So, basically, you're completely redefining what matter is, just to fit with your argument?

No I'm just not sure where the term "touch" applies

And I've made up my mind about matter electrons and such BEFORE making this post, so no I don't change my ideas to fit my viewpoint, it's my viewpoint that fits the ideas, also try to remember that barely (if) anyone here finished quantum physics classes, this topic is just for the people to share their ideas to others and come to a final statement on the subject based on overall evidence.

 

[Maze1125]

Well moving or moved by a physical object ex: rather then soaking into a brick wall it would push it without dying out and transfering into it

Well, in most cases, a single electron would transfer into a wall rather than hit against it, does that mean electrons can't be "touched" and are therefore not matter?

It would appear so

So, basically, you're completely redefining what matter is, just to fit with your argument?

No I'm just not sure where the term "touch" applies

And I've made up my mind about matter electrons and such BEFORE making this post, so no I don't change my ideas to fit my viewpoint, it's my viewpoint that fits the ideas,

Electrons, protons and neutrons are the very basis of all matter. To say you can't touch them is the equivilent to saying that you can't touch a table, because a table is made up of nothing but electrons, protons and neutrons.

also try to remember that barely (if) anyone here finished quantum physics classes,

Speak for yourself.
Also, energy-mass equivalence is Relativity, not Quantum Mechanics.

 

[Booze_Hound]

Electrons, protons and neutrons are the very basis of all matter. To say you can't touch them is the equivilent to saying that you can't touch a table, because a table is made up of nothing but electrons, protons and neutrons.

Protons and neutrons are made from quarks and gluons

 

[bradley348]

Pimp Energy - The sacred force within men. It is not allocated equally.

4Chan Energy - Its not pretty, its pollutant and it can spread easily.

 

[Hades74]

Well moving or moved by a physical object ex: rather then soaking into a brick wall it would push it without dying out and transfering into it

Well, in most cases, a single electron would transfer into a wall rather than hit against it, does that mean electrons can't be "touched" and are therefore not matter?

It would appear so

So, basically, you're completely redefining what matter is, just to fit with your argument?

No I'm just not sure where the term "touch" applies

And I've made up my mind about matter electrons and such BEFORE making this post, so no I don't change my ideas to fit my viewpoint, it's my viewpoint that fits the ideas,

Electrons, protons and neutrons are the very basis of all matter. To say you can't touch them is the equivilent to saying that you can't touch a table, because a table is made up of nothing but electrons, protons and neutrons.

also try to remember that barely (if) anyone here finished quantum physics classes,

Speak for yourself.
Also, energy-mass equivalence is Relativity, not Quantum Mechanics.

What I'm trying to point out is that as soon as they break apart they're too spall to collide with other atoms, therefore they're no longer physical (AKA touchable, movable)matter, if subatomic particles aren't energy just exactly what is?


p.s. ANYONE WHO HAS TAKEN QUANTUM PHYSICS SAY AYE SO WE MAY HEAR YOU

 

[Zenode]

Energy is everywhere its just in different forms.... i.e. if i am holding a can 500cm above ground it has potential energy then if i drop it then it "transforms" into kinetic energy

 

[Maze1125]

What I'm trying to point out is that as soon as they break apart they're too spall to collide with other atoms,

That's not true in the slightest.
The entire way electron microscopes work is by firing electrons at other particles and seeing how the collision plays out. But, nevertheless, if you fired an electron randomly at a wall, chances are it would pass right though with only minor incident.

if subatomic particles aren't energy just exactly what is?

That's exactly my point, they are energy, just like everything else. It just so happens that they are also matter.

p.s. ANYONE WHO HAS TAKEN QUANTUM PHYSICS SAY AYE SO WE MAY HEAR YOU

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