England Jails Homophobes

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ElPatron

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Don Savik said:
When the group demands another group of citizens dead, I think thats when they lose their chance. But hey, thats just me looking out for people.
And many (not saying all) Palestinians want Israelis dead. Why does the media paint the Israelis as evil?

Now, to those guys homosexuals are not a "group". They are criminals. To them, it's not any different from us asking for the death of spree killers or pedophiles.

Don Savik said:
You have the right to believe whatever the hell you want and to say what you want, but that doesn't make you immune to the consequences of your bullshit. It also doesn't make your logic and cultural ways immune to question and skepticism.
All I am saying is... Why is our culture immune to criticism? I am not talking about people criticizing Hollywood and sex on videogames, but about what we think to be "right" and "wrong".
 

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Interesting, In my opinion the only reason that there is any arguement over this is simple homophobia, If someone came out today saying that Mix raced marriages should be illegal, and anyone who partook in them should be killed, then there would rightly be calls for their arrest. This is exactly the same situation, Just because they believe that something should be illegal, doesn't mean that they cannot be prosecuted for protesting it.
 

orangeban

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It doesn't work like this in the States I know, but here in Britain we have an understanding about freedom of speech.

You have the right to believe what you want, and to speak what you want.

However, you do not have the right to force others to listen to you, to make your neighbourhood a hostile and unfriendly place, to make a certain group feel unsafe and to try and rally people into hating said group.

This is why these men were arrested, and this is also why the Westboro Baptist Church was banned from coming to Britain. That's simply how it works in Britain, it's how it's always worked. We're not shitting on anyones freedoms, since you've never had the freedom to do what these men did in this country.

These men could of spoken their views in their houses, or organised little bigot meetings, or even spoken it in an out-of-the-way part of a park. They cannot speak it in the middle of a suburb and they cannot actively badger passerbys about it (they were handing out leaflets).

Plus: If you were a gay person, would you feel safe walking past those men, knowing they wanted you dead? Probably not.

Right to announce your bullshit is trumped by the right for others to feel safe in their streets.
 
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Womplord said:
There's this thing called free speech and the UK obviously doesn't have it. They jailed people for what they believe, not for what they did, which I think is a terrible thing.
No. They were jailed because they then tried to make other people share their sick beliefs by distributing hateful propaganda. If they sat in their house hating homosexuals then there wouldn't be a problem here (apart from that you have three disgusting individuals...).
 

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ReservoirAngel said:
I was expecting just "someone said they didn't approve of a gay person and they were hauled off by cops" and was all prepared with a "this is over-reacting" speech but this?

Yeah, I'm fully okay with these hateful pricks being in jail. You can't just call for a group of people to be violently murdered and expect to not catch shit for saying that openly and in public.
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Conn1496

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To be honest, "England jails homophobes" is a very vague statement. I thought that this would be about people being arrested for street heckling at gay people or something, but saying a certain group of people should be killed is completely different. You could have just picked one out of 5 million traits that all three of those people share, and replaced it with homophobes, and it would have still been the same thing. I think that this is a first rate example of forum view whoring, but I'll plain out admit that it's sickening what these people did. So called "informing" the public that gay people should be hanged is just stupid, though, as many said before, telling people that anyone should be hanged is just plain out stupid anyway. I think it's reached the point where people should stop voicing their opinions unless it's their place or time, and it's quite sad considering that what I basically just said is that people should have restricted free speech in order to stop controversies like this happening. Though please be aware that I am all for freedom of speech (Unless it's idiocy like this. Because I'm pretty sure Muslims aren't allowed to kill people unless it's about defence or punishing crime, and last time I checked being gay isn't exactly a crime. Someone might have to review my knowledge on that.).
 

Fangface74

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Isn't the real irony the fact that some homophobes are going to a place where they shall experience much 'bum love'?