Epstein Prison Guards admit to falsifying testimony on night of his death

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Naomi Campbell the actress? Had something to do with this mess? 2006 the 1st Epstein arrest (or cops had probable cause)? I do wonder when Clinton's last trip on Epstein's airplane was. Regardless, I'm starting to hear of odd things with Gates too. The super rich are different from us. G-d help them.
The left have never been impressed with Gates. He's stolen stuff, bribed officials, screwed up charities. You know, normal rich guy stuff. Everyone fawns on him, like Jobs, without adding much to the company himself. And, like Jobs, overvalues his product and influence

I dont know about pedophilia. It's not something I've heard about him over the decades... but I wouldn't be shocked either
Supposedly, this was the reason Gates was buddies with Epstein
TLDR: Gates wanted to bribe himself into a Nobel prize using Epstein's connections, despite knowing he was a sex offender. He wanted something, so basic human decency went out the window. Guilty. They all are. If not for kiddy diddling, then for complicity by knowing about it and saying nothing.
 
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Supposedly, this was the reason Gates was buddies with Epstein
TLDR: Gates wanted to bribe himself into a Nobel prize using Epstein's connections, despite knowing he was a sex offender. He wanted something, so basic human decency went out the window. Guilty. They all are. If not for kiddy diddling, then for complicity by knowing about it and saying nothing.
This suprises me none, after hearing how he bribes lots of countries
 
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In the parlance of my youth when diving off jetties it was called the "canonball", to tuck your legs in under you and hold them in place with your arms as you jumped. If the cause of death was a broken neck it is far more believable that he managed a proper hanging of himself then that some mafioso managed to break it. Breaking someone's neck requires a lot of force and isn't instantaneous which mean Epstein would have defensive wounds from when he tried to break the hold of whoever did it. Since manually breaking a neck also requires some sort of leverage, since very few people have the strength to actually do it, that'd necessitate a struggle to put Epstein head onto the bed, window sill or other protrusion against which the assailant could then lodge Epstein's head and apply force to his body. Something which, yet again, would be precipitated by a struggle and would leave ample evidence of such on Epstein's body and in the cell.

But hey, I mean, it is not like suicidal people show great determination to kill themselves. It is after all trivially easy to jump in front of a speeding train, slash open your own arm or tie, secure and put a noose around your neck...



The two guards with access to the CCTV were slacking off and not doing their job. I wonder what reason they would have to erase the CCTV footage...
Thing is he managed to break his neck from the drop from a bunk bed using a sheet. Even when actual hangings were a thing they'd often screw up the rope length etc and have people choking to death rather than suffering a broken neck. It seems too much of a lucky chance Epstein just happen to get all that right.

As for a mafiosa breaking his neck it wouldn't be hard to do. just knock him out then slam him a few times on one bars of the bed or just literally throw him off the bed with the noose round his neck. Throwing him meaning there would be more added force thus the break from more likely using the noose.

As I said the guards aren't admitting to erasing the CCTV either which makes it suspicious
 

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Hey? Admittedly, I don't know anything about K-Pop, and maybe this would be really obvious to anyone who does.
Oh yeah, at least the women bands are notorious for casting couch shit, drugs, abuse, rape, and while out on tour wealthy business men just rent the women for the night. I even think a few band members have killed themselves over the trauma and abuse. Its a real problem the South Koreans don't want to address because Kpop is a really big industry and is really good for tourism and their world image.
 

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I could see her murdering him herself but this was a hit job.
I never said it wasn't a hit job. Career criminals tend to order hits every now and then. It's how they resolve these types of problems, unlike the truly powerful people, who have a lot more options at their disposal, like bribing the appropriate people (prosecutors, judges etc.). Bribing a prison guard is pedestrian, it reeks of a lower class criminal without access to necessary resources to make the problem disappear entirely.

Sounds more like something the Royals would do.
Not in this day and age. You've been watching too many movies.

Clintons maybe? Bill Gates doesn't have that kind of reputation.
Clintons don't have that kind of reputation either. Their reputation is nothing more than a right-wing concoction.

Trump was the one person in this list that handled Epstein like plutonium once he realized the guy had issues.
Oh boy, are you in for a treat. I really hope the Dutch grow a pair and release what they have on Trump. The Brits have it too, but they'll never do it. You'd have to eat some serious shit. You know there's a reason why Trump never attacked Epstein and tried to avoid talking about him. If only you knew why.
 
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I never said it wasn't a hit job. Career criminals tend to order hits every now and then. It's how they resolve these types of problems, unlike the truly powerful people, who have a lot more options at their disposal, like bribing the appropriate people (prosecutors, judges etc.). Bribing a prison guard is pedestrian, it reeks of a lower class criminal without access to necessary resources to make the problem disappear entirely.


Not in this day and age. You've been watching too many movies.


Clintons don't have that kind of reputation either. Their reputation is nothing more than a right-wing concoction.


Oh boy, are you in for a treat. I really hope the Dutch grow a pair and release what they have on Trump. The Brits have it too, but they'll never do it. You'd have to eat some serious shit. You know there's a reason why Trump never attacked Epstein and tried to avoid talking about him. If only you knew why.
Clintons may or may not deserve the reputation but they sure have one. There's even a name for it: "Arkansides".
 

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A certain someone is missing on your list. A certain someone who was buddies with Epstein and was the most powerful man in the world when Epstein died.

Seems more likely then a symbolical monarchy or a completely broken politician.
Yeah, Trump definitely belongs on that list as well, and Barr would make it marginally easier for him to get it taken care of than the others.

But that's really the problem, the list of people who sleep better with him dead is long, and most of them could afford to make it happen even without Barr's assistance. And that's all assuming he didn't actually kill himself.

It is after all trivially easy to jump in front of a speeding train, slash open your own arm or tie, secure and put a noose around your neck...
The speeding train one is simple enough if you have the desire to do it. We had a couple of them happen in the town I grew up in, which were frankly annoying because they shut down literally half the town (the town was two blocks wide with a railroad track running down the middle), as the train would be stopped for hours while the cleanup happened, and was typically long enough to block all of the crossings in town at once. As far as ways to die go, it's fairly quick, very effective, easy to do successfully and most of the problems involved are on the cleanup side. Ideally don't do it in a car, that reduces risk of success and makes for worse cleanup. But it's not physically difficult to get from near a railroad crossing to on the tracks in the time between when a train is too close to stop but before it's on top of you and by the time you do it's too late to reconsider.
 

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Oh yeah, at least the women bands are notorious for casting couch shit, drugs, abuse, rape, and while out on tour wealthy business men just rent the women for the night. I even think a few band members have killed themselves over the trauma and abuse. Its a real problem the South Koreans don't want to address because Kpop is a really big industry and is really good for tourism and their world image.
A lot of these things are run by the mafia and general criminal organizations. Like in Japan the real life Idol business is notoriously connected to the yakuza. It's part of why I'm not into this stuff at all and only support the anime form of it. You can listen to independent bands and musicians, you don't need the farm-raised ones. K-pop I don't really get, but that's prolly more to do with my not speaking Korean like I do Japanese and not being super into their culture.
 
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A lot of these things are run by the mafia and general criminal organizations. Like in Japan the real life Idol business is notoriously connected to the yakuza. It's part of why I'm not into this stuff at all and only support the anime form of it. You can listen to independent bands and musicians, you don't need the farm-raised ones. K-pop I don't really get, but that's prolly more to do with my not speaking Korean like I do Japanese and not being super into their culture.
The music industry in general is just horrific, abusive and more often than not simply a front for sex trafficking and money laundering for mobsters.
 

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I love how the rich can get away with sexual slavery, but weed is still illegal in many states.

Also, I see you Bill Gates, Trump, and Bill Clinton. You guys are criminals.

Also, there is a two-tier justice system, one for you, and I, and one for the wealthy, powerful, and well connected.
 

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I love how the rich can get away with sexual slavery, but weed is still illegal in many states.

Also, I see you Bill Gates, Trump, and Bill Clinton. You guys are criminals.

Also, there is a two-tier justice system, one for you, and I, and one for the wealthy, powerful, and well connected.
To be fair its been that way since like forever. Imagine all the weird shit royal families have gotten up to in that past ten thousand years. Imagine telling the Pharaoh who you believe is a child of God imbued with magical powers that he can't rape your daughter, and he needs to face a criminal court.
Imagine all the corruption that goes on when a single family controls not just a nation, but multiple nations through cousin fucking and inter-marrying.
 

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The music industry in general is just horrific, abusive and more often than not simply a front for sex trafficking and money laundering for mobsters.
See also Rap artist and sex slave dungeons

Clintons may or may not deserve the reputation but they sure have one. There's even a name for it: "Arkansides".
I'm a bit wary of people claiming a Clinton killed someone after the last one was proved false.
 

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I love how the rich can get away with sexual slavery, but weed is still illegal in many states.

Also, I see you Bill Gates, Trump, and Bill Clinton. You guys are criminals.

Also, there is a two-tier justice system, one for you, and I, and one for the wealthy, powerful, and well connected.
I also heard it said that most of Epstein's victims were from very impoverished families on account of this two-tier justice system.
 
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I also heard it said that most of Epstein's victims were from very impoverished families on account of this two-tier justice system.
A huge chunk were from other countries of course. He only got busted because he started going after people closer to his social circles and the children of fellow new money strivers as a flex.
 

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Which one was that?
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And some day, perhaps, you'll forward all the "evidence" you're apparently sitting on to one of the many law enforcement agencies in the US. Or maybe you could send it to one of the victims' families for a wrongful death lawsuit*. Making memes is a great use of it for now, I guess.


*Please don't actually harass the family members of people who have died with your conspiracy theories.
 

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And some day, perhaps, you'll forward all the "evidence" you're apparently sitting on to one of the many law enforcement agencies in the US. Or maybe you could send it to one of the victims' families for a wrongful death lawsuit*. Making memes is a great use of it for now, I guess.


*Please don't actually harass the family members of people who have died with your conspiracy theories.
Those who ignore the past are doomed to repeat it. Or at least let it happen some more.