Erin and Hobbes

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Rainboq said:
On the topic of tributes to Calvin & Hobbes, here have some Bacon & Hobbes.




I haven't had feels of this magnitude since I finished the "There she is" flash series.
 

Raiha

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only started reading C&H last week? you are in for a treat my friend
 

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PH3NOmenon said:
How exactly was Critical Miss ripping off Penny Arcade?

I've been a fan both both for a while now, but I never saw any real similarities aside from "videogames".

I might be blinded by proximity, but could someone explain it to me?
I just finished reading through the archives (saw this [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/comics/critical-miss/10024-On-Reviews] comic posted on some image site and thought 'oh wow what else did I miss').

While going through it all, I got this distinct impression of something like Ctrl-Alt-Del written by the staff of Penny Arcade. That's hardly a criticism there; once you take Tim Buckley out of the equation, you have two successful webcomics. But aside from "videogames", things like the type of negative continuity used, the range of subject material, the casual vulgarity - stuff like that puts them in the same specific style of webcomic. You could make comparisons between Erin and Gabe (sub Clutch for Tycho) though I've seen a lot more of her character in other sources. By staff of Penny Arcade, I was trying to include Scott Kurtz (I forget if he gets paid by them or just shares an office) who has already been mentioned as an inspiration [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/comics/critical-miss/9451-Icky-Relationship-Stuff-1], and PvP does kinda have that bear character and an office setting. I mean, I am not trying to compare Grey Carter to Tim Buckley or accuse him of ripping stuff off. It's just that I see enough similarities not to dismiss some complaints out-of-hand.
 

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rhodo said:
You WISH you were ripping Penny Arcade and/or Calvin&Hobbes.
You aren't nearly good enough to possibly be mistaken for one of those two comics. But keep dreaming!
Actually, Penny Arcade keeps getting less funny with obvious reference jokes anyone can make.
And though the art style still has it's charm, i'm laughing less and less with every comic.

I've grown fond of CM in the time spent here on The Escapist, and as Yahtzee, it's an integral piece here.
It's cynical, hard, on the spot, sometimes heartwarming and most of all funny.
(and i always like the lines/notes below, but i was always a big fan of Shirow's Hypernotes...)

Calvin and Hobbes is classic, so we'll not even dare compare CM with THAT.
I'll give you the latter, but CM is in many ways better than PA.
But that's my opinion.
 

Krantos

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CALVIN AND HOBBES!

Wait... How the hell are you copying C&H? Crit Miss is nothing like C&H.

Stout has schizophrenia, Calvin has adventures with his stuffed Tiger. There's no overlap there.

No offense, but you also have a long way to go to come close to C&H.


Rainboq said:
On the topic of tributes to Calvin & Hobbes, here have some Bacon & Hobbes.




Oh my God... I love you... Why did Waterson have to retire? *sniff*
 

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Lunar Templar said:
Rainboq said:
Lunar Templar said:
Rainboq said:
On the topic of tributes to Calvin & Hobbes, here have some Bacon & Hobbes.




...

there is more of this yes? cause it gets all of my approval
Sadly there is not.
T-T that gives me a sad.

But thank you posting it anyway :')
No problem, no problem what so ever :3
Krantos said:
CALVIN AND HOBBES!

Wait... How the hell are you copying C&H? Crit Miss is nothing like C&H.

Stout has schizophrenia, Calvin has adventures with his stuffed Tiger. There's no overlap there.

No offense, but you also have a long way to go to come close to C&H.


Rainboq said:
On the topic of tributes to Calvin & Hobbes, here have some Bacon & Hobbes.




Oh my God... I love you... Why did Waterson have to retire? *sniff*
Because he was afraid of the strip getting stagant and too self referential... *cough* Garfield *cough*
Oh my... I currently have so many feels, they are leaking out of my eyes. Warm, emotional feels...[/quote]
 

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Rainboq said:
Because he was afraid of the strip getting stagant and too self referential... *cough* Garfield *cough*
I can respect that, I'd rather it stopped while it was still great then ... well Garfield ...
 

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Lunar Templar said:
Rainboq said:
Because he was afraid of the strip getting stagant and too self referential... *cough* Garfield *cough*
I can respect that, I'd rather it stopped while it was still great then ... well Garfield ...
Indeed, Garfield really should stop.
 

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rhodo said:
You WISH you were ripping Penny Arcade and/or Calvin&Hobbes.
You aren't nearly good enough to possibly be mistaken for one of those two comics. But keep dreaming!
"Ripping off" ≠ "Being mistaken for"
 

The Wooster

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rhodo said:
Grey Carter said:
rhodo said:
You WISH you were ripping Penny Arcade and/or Calvin&Hobbes.
You aren't nearly good enough to possibly be mistaken for one of those two comics. But keep dreaming!
"Ripping off" ≠ "Being mistaken for"


Sure, grasp to semantics. That's totally gonna disprove the point I'm trying to make.
It's not semantics, you completely misunderstood what I wrote. People always assume Penny Arcade is our central influences. It isn't. I never said anything about being mistaken for either strip.

As for the point you're trying to make; Critical Miss (which has been running for two years) isn't as good as Penny Arcade (15 years) and Calvin and Hobbes (a decade), the latter of which is widely considered the best comic strip of all time? I never noticed.
 

The Wooster

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Evidently I've been sucked into some kind of terrible troll vortex, but I'm going to take one last shot at this.

rhodo said:
Very well, I suppose I need to explain in detail since you still keep missing the point.

You said "copying" is not the same thing as "being mistaken for". Since there's zero chances of anyone possibly mistaking your comic for Penny Arcade or Calvin&Hobbes, of course it can only be "copying". Which is why I used that word ("ripping off") when making my comment.
So, is it clear now?
No, because that's not how the English language works. Saying something is a "rip off of" or is "inspired by" product x does, in no way shape or form, imply it's as good as, indistinguishable from or easily mistaken for said product in terms of quality. If you think it does, you're wrong. If I wanted to say "my comic is just like Calvin and Hobbes!" I would write exactly that. I didn't write that. You misunderstood. I can't possibly make this any clearer.

As for the point YOU are trying to make: are you honestly telling me that a comic's quality is defined by how many years it has been going on?
Do you mean I'm telling you that sometimes things get better over time? Yes. [http://penny-arcade.com/comic/1998/11/18] Yes, I am. [http://penny-arcade.com/comic] Do I think Critical Miss gets better as Cory and I hone our craft? Yes.

And again, you're putting words in my mouth. I never compared Critical Miss to either of the strips mentioned. The point I was making is how incredibly asinine your original comment was. You're comparing my work, negatively, to two of the greatest comics ever made, and this supposed to be either a: insulting or b: a critical observation. It's neither. It's the equivalent of going to see a local band and pointing out they're not as good as Led Zeppelin. Which is really about as informative as pointing out water is wet.
 

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EDIT: ah, sorry i posted in the wrong thread.

I've never really seen the appeal of Calvin and Hobbes myself
 

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SweetShark said:
Rainboq said:
On the topic of tributes to Calvin & Hobbes, here have some Bacon & Hobbes.




Yeah....I want to feel the happiness and sadness for these specific comics, but I havetwo reasons not:

1. RobotChicken alternative ending of Calvin & Hobbes:


2. Calvin and her wife named their girl.........Bacon? Really?
A more suitable title it would be "Bacon and Tiger", cause, you know, Tigers love meat, hehehehehehehe....
Um, she's not named after the food. She's named after Sir Francis Bacon, the philosopher. You know how Calvin and Hobbes were both named after famous European philosophers? (John Calvin and Thomas Hobbes, respectively.) The author of that comic obviously wanted to keep the theme going. I think it's a very fitting name for her, actually.

Also, the RC video is funny and all, but do you let every movie, TV show, or comic become ruined for you just because Robot Chicken skewered it? If you do that, you'll have pretty much nothing left at all! ;)
 

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Quazimofo said:
BehattedWanderer said:
SonicWaffle said:
Clearly you're playing it wrong. You didn't even mention dropping Pandora's head on the triple-word score or having to wear a viking helmet on every third Tuesday lest you be deducted points (unless it's Chinese New Year, in which case you get double points and a lollipop)
Trucken said:
Yeah, but the points-scoring zone is in the Invisible Sector, which means you have to do it blindfolded.
Well, obviously, yeah. To say nothing of the way one has to hop backwards on one foot while swearing the Oath, and if you mess it up, you have to go through the Hades gauntlet again, but this time, without the double jump.
But if you incur a game of chance, then properly guess the proper brand of lollipop that you would normally get on Chinese new year (not the brand you get when wearing a fedora in place of a viking hat), then you get the double jump back. Unless you screw it up, in which case you also lose one of your blades, but how many lollipop brands are there to chose from?
*waits to see how convoluted this will get and then starts handing out tissues to all the people who looked at Bacon and Hobbes*

Actually...I wonder how Watterson would react to Bacon and Hobbes?