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YodaUnleashed

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This was a very fun and enjoyable movie ride with some great and oftentimes funny character dynamics and very stunning visuals; it was a superheroe movie in every sense of the word. But for whatever reason, the 4 friends I took with me to see this didn't care for it at all, two even disliked it, and other than the glaring plot-hole of the hulk suddenly being mostly friendly with his fellow heroes in the final battle despite the fact we had no indication earlier that he was able to control who he attacked (indeed, a big deal is made out of it), they gave no real reason besides some corny dialogue and 'over-reliance' on CGI. Personally I just think most of them are stuffy prigs who can't just relax and enjoy some fairly light and raucous entertainment and need much of what they watch to have deeper inner meaning and more cerebral themes. I'm not trying to excuse mindlessness (transformers anyone) but just letting go of any of your preconceived notions about what your going to watch is very important and they all went into this films wanting not to like it, so they didn't. Just felt the need to rant a bit about my friends, I really need to make some more who understand where I'm coming from.
 

Don Reba

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YodaUnleashed said:
Personally I just think most of them are stuffy prigs who can't just relax and enjoy some fairly light and raucous entertainment and need much of what they watch to have deeper inner meaning and more cerebral themes.
Some people just do not enjoy turning their brains off. It is not a pleasant sensation for everyone. :)

I think the movie would have been better, if it ended an hour sooner.
 

Metalrocks

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i agree. this movie is awesome. watched it on the 26th last month and enjoyed the whole ride. even when im not a huge fan of the comics, its just a joy to watch this movie.
the hulk really smashes things up and i just coulndt stop laughing when hulk..... i better dont spoil this part. :p

oh, i think you should have watched the previous movies to understand the background of the characters more. otherwise it might be a little bit confusing.
 

Something Amyss

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Zenron said:
I'm english so I've seen this already. Was looking forward to seeing Moviebob gush about this movie like a fanboy because y'know, this movie is great and totally deserves it.
To be fair, after all the hype he'd invested into it, it could be total ass and he would probably still run with the praise.
 

artanis_neravar

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Yeah, First Class was good. But seriously, how long did it take them to get to that one good X-men movie. The original 2 seemed OK in a world before the Iron Man movie was a thing, but looking back on them today they don't hold up. At least not in my opinion. The titles said X-men, but what it came down to was 4 Wolverine movies.

By my count Fox is what, six-to-one against on Superhero movies? If I'm wrong then I apologize but there were four X-men movies ranging from "OK" to "Horrible" and 2 God awful Fantastic Four movies (that's Fox too, right?) before First Class came along. I enjoyed First Class, but it's the anomaly not the rule as far as I'm concerned. I'd love nothing more than to see the rights revert back to Marvel now that they have this whole movie thing down to a science.
True, but with First Class they have the foundation to start making good movies. The only thing that confuses me is that they seem to still be planning on making another Wolverine Origins and another of the other X-Men trilogy. I was always under the impression that First Class was rebooting the series after the tragedy of X3 and Wolverine.
 

Something Amyss

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Don Reba said:
Some people just do not enjoy turning their brains off. It is not a pleasant sensation for everyone. :)
Personally, I'm surprised this is ever really considered a good thing. Almost anything is good if you just "turn your brain off." Why even discriminate on the basis of which movie you're watching? Pay ten bucks for some shiny objects and flashy lights.

On the other hand, I was the one who suggest Star Wars: Episode III could redeem itself by being nothing but 90 minutes of lightsaber battles...
 

RevRaptor

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Yea This movie rocked.
I wonder what Thanos is gona do now he showed up in the end credits bit.
I liked Thanos as a bad guy, so badass that death became his girl friend, should be a hell of a fight :)
 

Don Reba

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On the other hand, I was the one who suggest Star Wars: Episode III could redeem itself by being nothing but 90 minutes of lightsaber battles...
Dark Resurrection Vol. 0 comes close to this ideal, actually.
 

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No way was Wheldon this much of a genius? Surely?
The Justice Friends were supposed to be a parody of the Avengers. Iron Man's counterpart wasn't dexter though, it was Living Bullet.
Yeh i know, but if you look closely, each character has pretty much the exact same pose as there counterpart!

And the fireball hitting the building in pretty much the same area over Captain America and whoever the other guy is!
 

DarkhoIlow

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I'm glad they did an awesome job with this movie.

I'm gonna go see it myself tommorow evening and I can't wait!
 

Bradeck

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One part really got to me, and everyone in the Audience too.
Agent Coulson....you WILL return! I demand you return!
 

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I'm glad they did an awesome job with this movie.

I'm gonna go see it myself tommorow evening and I can't wait!
It is worth the 3D experience by the way. The 3D is great. It's a shame Bob didn't mention that for people but felt the need to explain the classic tale of how the Avengers comics came about as useless information for 2 minutes.
 

ScientificDJ

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Am I the only one who was sorely disappointed with this movie? I thought it was poorly paced and structured, paper thin in the plot department, really wasting potential on what could have been awesome character exploration and interaction, and there was so much gratuitous action without any plot or character weight to carry it.

What exactly is it that everyone loves so much about this movie? I loved what it could and should have been but I've seen it twice and I still feel there was hardly any substance where there should have been an ocean of it. Not to mention the constant annoying tension breaking cheap Joss Whedon one line jokes.

After the trailer and the at first subtle then exciting build up over the years I thought this was going to be a character driven, nuanced story of epic proportions. Instead it was poorly constructed, deep as a puddle and had nothing to make me feel anything but disappointment after building up to this for years. The copious amounts of action and CGI were hardly pieces of cinematic beauty anyway.

Please someone take issue with my disappointment because I would love to vent my frustrations in a debate while finding out why everyone else seems to love this piece of crap.
 

Crazy_Dude

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Saw it again yesterday just because it is that awesome. Perhaps I will even see it a third time.

I could keep watching this movie it is amazing to say the least. Can't wait how they handle Thor 2 and Iron Man. I would love to see how they handle
Thanos needs to steal the Infinity Gauntlet from Odins treasure vault. Perhaps that will happen at the end of Thor 2 or start of Avengers 2.
 

iLazy

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And I won't be able to see it for a few weeks because I live in a backwater town that's playing Mirror Mirror at the moment...

This hurts me.
 

DJ_DEnM

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Oh my god the movie was so good. Seriously, and that after credits scene was just freaking amazing. I wasn't expecting that. The after-after credits scene (Which has only been released in the U.S.?) is also pretty good. Great movie though.
 

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In the first issue of the comic series Secret Warriors Nick Fury discovers that S.H.I.E.L.D was in fact set up Hydra and that Hydra had been running it since the beginning. I wonder if we might see a similar revalation with the secret board of shadowy figures

Especially considering
the nuke they sent at New York, which if they were Hydra would both defeat the invading army and kill off the Avengers, giving them the perfect excuse to continue Stage 2 and whatever else they wanted

There isn't much evidence so I wouldn't call it a theory, more a musing or what if?
 

Laughing Man

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A thought regarding the mid credit scene.

I am not a comic book fan, I saw Hulk and Spider Man when they came out and only went to see Ironman after seeing the previews, I knew nothing of The Avengers and the end scene in Ironman, which I thought was great, was interesting but didn't peak my interest though I did recognise that it meant something big was coming. It wasn't until they did the same thing after The Incredible Hulk that I started to gain some interest in what the long term plan was. I didn't see Thor or Captain American at release I did see Iron Man 2 at the cinema though and eventually saw Thor and Captain American on Blu-ray. By now the whole Avengers thing was pretty set and yeah I was interested, but my knowledge of the Avengers universe only extended as far as what I had seen in the movies.

So here's the point, The Avengers was f*cking awesome but that last scene meant nothing to me, I had no idea who the person was. The movies worked nicely for the uninitiated but that end scene was clearly for the fans.

I know now who the person is and what that persons significance is but that's because I had to go and find out via google.