Escape to the Movies: Chronicle

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ComplexedOne

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Normally I hate the whole "found footage" thing, but you were right about Paranormal activity so I will be giving this one a chance. As always, thanks for the insight Bob.
 

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i wish i could throw shit around with ma mind, i would use my powers for profit... unless of course i am the black guy who sacrifices himself. this is off topic but why in gods name did they kill off the most interesting character in Xmen first class?, HE DIDNT EVEN GET TO KICK ANY ASS!!!
 

Knight Templar

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I loved chronicle, it was utterly amazing.

But two points about your review

I cannot think of a single person who saw the "somebody dies" thing coming. The way they made andrew out to be stronger everybody assumed the other two would need to fight together to bring him down.
So I think you're spoiling that without need.
I would also say the way the character who keeps cameras around him does so has more of a point than you suggest.
 

Scars Unseen

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lesterley said:
Dude. Dude. Dude.

I am so sick of every action/thriller/sci-fi/superhero movie being a giant bro-fest! Why couldn't at least ONE of the characters in this movie be a woman? Or how about 2 women and one guy? That would have been an interesting dynamic.

But no... 99% of today's movies are made by and for men. Any female character is simply a sex object for the male gaze.

And don't start giving me examples of female superheroes in movies, unless you can give me one who DOESN'T dress like a stripper (or worse), and who has her own life that is not dependent upon a male character.

Ugh.
Never seen The Craft, I take it?
 

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I'm guessing there wasn't a screening for Woman in Black? Other than that I guess it's great to hear that Chronical turned out as well as it did! It may be my first movie of 2012 (I know I know, I'm late)
 

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I saw this on Thursday and mostly agree with Bob - the found footage kinda works even though I'm not fan of the style (but that may be because they had the camera floating a lot) and the film was indeed awesome. However I wasn't quite as sold on the bullied character as he was. I can't give an adequate explanation without spoiling things, so click at your own peril:

Andrew is seriously messed up. Early on he sees no problem with having nearly killed a dude by forcing his car off the road and later on adopts the apex predator theory as his baseline for morality. Kid's a fucking psycho.

Back to the film as a whole; the stuff at the end was very Akira, all I heard in my head during the climax was Kaneda! and Tetsuo! over and over. I was disappointed with how much they showed in the trailer, but I guess you have to throw some of the big money shots into the trailer to give it it's oomph.
 

plainlake

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I think we are all thankfull that you never got any other superpower than your critical judgement Bob.
 

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Henkie36 said:
I will say that I agree with Bob. I don't paticularly like those shakycam shots in any movie, and it is well phrased that most of them would probably be better without it. But, might give tis one a watch.
But the time there is Shaky cam is when it is necessary. All shaky cam shots were done intentionally and made sense. Even when they were shaky came they were held still enough so that you would know what is going on.

How do I know this? I saw it tonight, I loved it.
 

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Wouldn't a "nerd revenge story that's not a comedy" be something like The Social Network? Ostracized lonely nerdy kid changes the world? Yeah.

Well done, Bob, you've both effectively made me want to see this movie, and completely put me off the idea by telling me everything about it. Smooth. Want to buy me some ice cream then eat it, too?
 

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artanis_neravar said:
lesterley said:
Dude. Dude. Dude.

I am so sick of every action/thriller/sci-fi/superhero movie being a giant bro-fest! Why couldn't at least ONE of the characters in this movie be a woman? Or how about 2 women and one guy? That would have been an interesting dynamic.

But no... 99% of today's movies are made by and for men. Any female character is simply a sex object for the male gaze.

And don't start giving me examples of female superheroes in movies, unless you can give me one who DOESN'T dress like a stripper (or worse), and who has her own life that is not dependent upon a male character.

Ugh.
Djinn8 said:
Let the right one in (debatable)
Girl with the dragon tattoo
Terminator 2
Aliens
Run Lola, run

To name a few off the top of my head.
These and:
Themla and Louise
Resident Evil
Tomb Raider
Sound of Music
Grease
Fargo
Erin Brokovich
GI Jane
Kill Bill
Blue Crush
Juno
Silence of the Lambs
V for Vendetta
Underworld
I think her point stands - none of the women you listed are superheroes in the genre sense. They don't have specific superpowers. Many are totes kickass, but for the most part the women you've listed are the way they are because of the lives they've led, not because of some innate power. While I don't know the full list, I know that Salander and Evey only wound up the way they were because of how they'd been treated by men. Also I think we'd have a hard time calling Lara Croft a character/Erin Brokovich is an actual person/Grease has heroes (sorry, I'm allergic to musicals)?

Heroes, though, is one superhero show that handles lady-super-dramas really, really well. At least up until season two or three.

While I'm not doubting that it was easier for a male writer/director to write/direct male characters, mixing things up and throwing a girl in there as someone more important than a love interest could've made for an interesting mix. Think about it: How would you write a teenage girl who suddenly develops telekinetic powers? How would her male counterparts react? Would she go Magneto or Spidey? Thinking on it, it might be better as another film - but Lesterly has a point.
 

artanis_neravar

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Hevva said:
artanis_neravar said:
lesterley said:
Dude. Dude. Dude.

I am so sick of every action/thriller/sci-fi/superhero movie being a giant bro-fest! Why couldn't at least ONE of the characters in this movie be a woman? Or how about 2 women and one guy? That would have been an interesting dynamic.

But no... 99% of today's movies are made by and for men. Any female character is simply a sex object for the male gaze.

And don't start giving me examples of female superheroes in movies, unless you can give me one who DOESN'T dress like a stripper (or worse), and who has her own life that is not dependent upon a male character.

Ugh.
Djinn8 said:
Let the right one in (debatable)
Girl with the dragon tattoo
Terminator 2
Aliens
Run Lola, run

To name a few off the top of my head.
These and:
Themla and Louise
Resident Evil
Tomb Raider
Sound of Music
Grease
Fargo
Erin Brokovich
GI Jane
Kill Bill
Blue Crush
Juno
Silence of the Lambs
V for Vendetta
Underworld
I think her point stands - none of the women you listed are superheroes in the genre sense. They don't have specific superpowers. Many are totes kickass, but for the most part the women you've listed are the way they are because of the lives they've led, not because of some innate power. While I don't know the full list, I know that Salander and Evey only wound up the way they were because of how they'd been treated by men. Also I think we'd have a hard time calling Lara Croft a character/Erin Brokovich is an actual person/Grease has heroes (sorry, I'm allergic to musicals)?

Heroes, though, is one superhero show that handles lady-super-dramas really, really well. At least up until season two or three.

While I'm not doubting that it was easier for a male writer/director to write/direct male characters, mixing things up and throwing a girl in there as someone more important than a love interest could've made for an interesting mix. Think about it: How would you write a teenage girl who suddenly develops telekinetic powers? How would her male counterparts react? Would she go Magneto or Spidey? Thinking on it, it might be better as another film - but Lesterly has a point.
They did say "action/thriller/sci-fi/superhero" But for super heroes, I agree with both of you, but only in movies. In the comics, you have Kitty Pride and Rouge, to name my two favorites
 

HemalJB

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You know, we need this type of superhero/supervillain dynamic-
There is a bully, and there is a victim.
However, in a twist, the bully is a emotionally scarred kid with poor parents and a troubled history that leads to him bullying as the only available outlet to vent his frustrations on the world. In comparison, the victim, while hating the bully, does not find himself being anti-social because of a close circle of supportive friends and family.
Later, they both get superpowers, and while the victim wants to keep his powers a secret, the bully becomes increasingly unstable committing worse acts of violence. This means that the victim has no choice but to fight the bully on a grand scale...
.....
Wait...
It's been done before, hasn't it?
 

shadyh8er

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Awwww come on Mr. Sandler! Really?

As for this movie, I decided I wanted to see it since the trailer but I forgot the title. Thanks for the reminder and encouragement to see it!
 

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canadamus_prime said:
TheDrunkNinja said:
canadamus_prime said:
Yes. I'm also 30 and it still effects me to this day; not as much as it once did, but still does. It's because of that that I'm afraid to go out and meet new people. And yeah, if I got super powers I'd probably go around smashing bullies in the face.
So maybe you're more resilient than Bob and myself, hooray for you; but don't go around judging everyone else by your standards.
Okay. I refer you to my original post.
And I repeat: Don't judge everyone else by your standards. I can't just snap my fingers and get over something. Although I really wish I could.
I'm sorry to hear that. I personally am one of those people who just gets over it generally within minutes of being bullied I was done being sad and moving onto the next thing don't know why just the way I'm wired. I have several friend who have trouble getting over stuff like this, so I understand at least to some degree. I hope you end up in a good place in relation to this man.

And drunk ninja no offense but your kinda being a prick.

On topic as soon as I saw the trailer I was hoping the one that goes evil(ish) was the one who bought the farm. I've always felt stooping to the bullies level was a fate worse than death. To become that which you hate I mean holy cow. I understand the reasoning but I find it abhorrent. The movie sounds interesting though May give it a watch.
 

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Djinn8 said:
lesterley said:
And don't start giving me examples of female superheroes in movies, unless you can give me one who DOESN'T dress like a stripper (or worse), and who has her own life that is not dependent upon a male character.

Ugh.
Let the right one in (debatable)
Girl with the dragon tattoo
Terminator 2
Aliens
Run Lola, run

To name a few off the top of my head.
artanis_neravar said:
These and:
Themla and Louise
Resident Evil
Tomb Raider
Sound of Music
Grease
Fargo
Erin Brokovich
GI Jane
Kill Bill
Blue Crush
Juno
Silence of the Lambs
V for Vendetta
Underworld
You guys must have failed hard at Reading Comprehension back in school. Not a single one of those listed are even remotely close to being super hero movies, and some even fail the "doesn't dress like a stripper (or worse)" and/or "life isn't dependent on a male character" requirement.

Anyway, closest I could probably think of off-hand would be Hitgirl from Kick-Ass. Granted that none of the characters are "super" by any means, but the movie/comic still fall into the genre purely by virtue of being a parody/critique on the super hero genre as a whole.
 

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Strain42 said:
In regards to this movie, Bob I think you did fine on it (not your best video, but fine) and to the people whining about spoilers, you should have shut off the video the first time he said "Spoiler Warning".
Except that he DIDN'T give a spoiler warning. He gave a joking "o btw spoilers lawl" nod to how he let the "super powers" thing slip, but it was hardly "Stop watching now, you have been warned" like he usually does with other movies. Heck, it was such a quick shot that I was about to post saying that he didn't mention anything about spoiler warnings, when I remembered "Oh yeah, that joke he did near the beginning".

TheDrunkNinja said:
Alright, it's not really about my standards or getting over your problems. My whole spiel is mostly about how people are dealing with those problems. Like you said, I don't know you. I don't know how you deal with them. But I will say, admitting that if you were granted power, you would abuse said power for revenge's sake. Not simple retribution, but fucking murder? That's like admitting you can't be trusted for any real responsibility.
Talk is cheap. It's one thing for Bob to say "Yeah, I'd be a villain if I had super powers", and something entirely different to claim that it means he'd actually pull the trigger if he was given a gun and pointed at one of his childhood bullies. Heck, for all we know, he was just having a shitty week and venting by way of his video. If you can honestly tell me that there has never been a day when you considered the idea of being a "villain" were you plopped into a comic book world, then either you're lying, or you have Flanders-level of bully therapy. Because everyone has those days where they'd gladly level a city to blow-off steam.

370999 said:
First of all that is pathetic, you instantly claim Drunken is a bully in that he disagrees with you. He has as much right to disagree and dislike as you do to differ and like and agree.
Except that his post IS very bully-like. It isn't about whether or not he has "the right" to say it (and I love how often people will use that as a defense when they know they can't justify what they said through any other means than "I can legally say it"), it's about how he said it.

Secondly it is entirely possible that, like me, he enjoys Bob's stuff in general as Bob can be a very perceptive reviewer but really disliek this victimhood mentality that get's brought in. Human beings don't have to be binary creatures of complete adoration or loathing.
While this IS entirely possible, it still doesn't help Drunken any, as it makes him into a liar. Clearly Bob struck SOME cord with Drunken that he absolutely HAD to bring this up. So if he is, in fact, just a casual viewer who likes Bob's reviews, then he obviously still has something buried that he isn't fully on terms with to be so bothered by Bob bringing-up HIS bullying. Though I think that's enough said about a third party without confirmation of anything from said party. I was simply pointing-out how neither of your points really help him.

TheDrunkNinja said:
Bob. You're 30. You were bullied when you were a kid.

Get over it. The rest of us "victims" already have. It's time you join us.
You know, I love how in all of this, no one has pointed-out the fact that none of us knows much about Bob's life. Just because he's said that he was bullied in school... does that mean it stopped after he got out of school? By all means, congratulations if you did indeed get over any trauma caused by bullying in your childhood, but don't assume that it's so easy for everyone else, and DEFINITELY don't assume that he's no longer being bullied just because he's 30. Believe it or not, adults can be just as petty as kids.
 

Canadamus Prime

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Keith Reedy said:
canadamus_prime said:
TheDrunkNinja said:
canadamus_prime said:
Yes. I'm also 30 and it still effects me to this day; not as much as it once did, but still does. It's because of that that I'm afraid to go out and meet new people. And yeah, if I got super powers I'd probably go around smashing bullies in the face.
So maybe you're more resilient than Bob and myself, hooray for you; but don't go around judging everyone else by your standards.
Okay. I refer you to my original post.
And I repeat: Don't judge everyone else by your standards. I can't just snap my fingers and get over something. Although I really wish I could.
I'm sorry to hear that. I personally am one of those people who just gets over it generally within minutes of being bullied I was done being sad and moving onto the next thing don't know why just the way I'm wired. I have several friend who have trouble getting over stuff like this, so I understand at least to some degree. I hope you end up in a good place in relation to this man.

And drunk ninja no offense but your kinda being a prick.

On topic as soon as I saw the trailer I was hoping the one that goes evil(ish) was the one who bought the farm. I've always felt stooping to the bullies level was a fate worse than death. To become that which you hate I mean holy cow. I understand the reasoning but I find it abhorrent. The movie sounds interesting though May give it a watch.
I'm pleased that you understand. Few things irritate me more than being told to just "get over it." Believe me if it were that bloody easy I would've done it a long time ago and we wouldn't be talking about it now.
 

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MovieBob said:
Chronicle

Could this be another super-hero franchise?

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Uh Bob I hate to say it but "Monsters" wasn't a "found footage" movie. Yes it was mainly done with hand cams but it wasn't ever set up to be "found footage". It had some file footage from the initial "infection" but it wasn't that much and it did have some footage that was based on news footage but again fit completely with the movie as it was watched by the main characters on a tv. The problem with the way you put it in your review here as a "found footage" movie is completely false since roughly 90% of said movie is just hand cams and following the main characters as the movie happens. There is no film that is later found. The audience is never under the impression that they are watching file footage that was just found or just released. Hand cam filming doesn't equal "lost footage". If that's what you took from it then I would implore you to watch it again if you ever did to begin with. Yes it was a low budget film, but it was in my opinion a really well done film.