Escape to the Movies: Machete
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Yeah I can see that. Hey just for the sake of "What if", what would you think of Rodriguez doing a Gungrave, or Hellsing movie?Casual Shinji said:
Well, I never saw Gungrave, but Hellsing seems straight up Rodriguez' ailey I'd say.KingPiccolOwned said:
You sir (or madam), said everything about the movie that I am too damn ineloquent to be able to put in words.Gralian said:
You earn cookies.
We need to show it to him.Casual Shinji said:
Also here's an AMV (if you can stand them, as many I know can't) of Gungrave set to Alabama 3's Woke Up this Morning to show you what the show's about.
Enjoy.
The Border problem in America is "one of the biggest debates in modern culture?"
Huh, I just thought it was the US version of the "Polish Problem" in Britain: Polish are coming over to make a living by willingly doing REALLY crap jobs REALLY cheaply because NONE of the British want to do those jobs, and yet the locals still complain that the Polish are "stealing Jobs" and "Not Being English"
Strikes me that there isn't a lot of argument for the USA side. Mexicans are being repressed and slightly discriminated, simple as, I think. Of course, if anyone in that area knows more about the problem, I'd be glad to hear it.
Huh, I just thought it was the US version of the "Polish Problem" in Britain: Polish are coming over to make a living by willingly doing REALLY crap jobs REALLY cheaply because NONE of the British want to do those jobs, and yet the locals still complain that the Polish are "stealing Jobs" and "Not Being English"
Strikes me that there isn't a lot of argument for the USA side. Mexicans are being repressed and slightly discriminated, simple as, I think. Of course, if anyone in that area knows more about the problem, I'd be glad to hear it.
He is not just recently getting pretentious. He is a professional critic and they are all pretentious pricks. He can not get off his soapbox when that box is his career.HyperionToASatyr said:
I do want to know he thought of a true idie flick like "The room." [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Room_%28film%29] Or for him to so a series of reviews or critical essays on movie genre he enjoys more instead of just doing reviews for movies that just came out. I did like his most recent Intermission article and found it a nice change from his regular submissions.
That's certainly part of the issue for some people, but personally I don't care if they are coming over here to look for a better life, that's great that's what America was made for (in theory anyway). The problem that I have, with the whole issue really, is that people don't seem to be making the distinction anymore between a legal immigrant and an illegal immigrant (and that's on both sides of the debate).GrinningManiac said:
True here, no state has a problem with controlled legal immigration as it gives the government more people to tax. Governments do have a problem when the people coming into a state can't get a job and thus the state has to subsidies them or they are entering a state illegally and flouting it's laws, this being the problem in the American south with illegal Meican immigration.KingPiccolOwned said:
Yep, thought the same, willing to bet my money on it the way Bob announced itFurrama said:
Good review, might give this one a look see if there's nothing else in theatres and I have some time. As I'm not an American, the border crossing issue is a little moot to me (and your Wet feet, dry feet law seems as stupid as they come for one) and won't carry the movie on it's own, which leaves just the action. Which is fun, but in a "barbecue + beer + random movie" kinda fun. And even there it has competitors :\
Maybe he just doesn't like it straight up? *Ba-dum-tish*HyperionToASatyr said:
Seriously though, he might just not give a flying toss for what you call a "pure action movie", everyone's got their preferences and I can't say I can disagree with him on that one, not even objectively
I hadn't heard of the "Polish Problem," but it sounds like pretty much the same idea, yes - though here in the US the issue is "supercharged" by the additional elements of race and class divide.GrinningManiac said:
The way it's broken down is, a few decades ago essentially ALL menial/service jobs "Unionized" to one degree or another, which forced most employers to pay a certain base-level of wages and provide certain insurances. Because businesses started to make less money when they were no longer allowed to screw their employees over, an increasing number of businesses started to delegate more jobs off to "under the table" employees who weren't "on the books" and thus could be paid lower wages. And since what Americans would call "low" pay is actually quite a bit of money in Mexico and other South American and/or Latin American nations, you quickly had a HUGE rise in people crossing the border illegally to do these jobs. And since what was good for the businesses was good for their political allies, the government and law-enforcement just largely "looked the other way" on illegal immigration for DECADES.
So now you've got people who've lived here "illegally" for several generations - who've started families and lived lives and who have children who are natural-born citizens - and a lot of them are starting to ask *Gasp!!* that they be treated like PEOPLE by a government that has benefited from their presence by ignoring it's own laws, and NOW suddenly it's a HUGE problem
It's more complicated on either side, of course, but that's largely where the "anger" at the heart of this particular movie is coming from.
Rodriguez recently commented on whether or not Machete is actually talking about the immigration debate. Answer: kind of, but not really. It's more a representation on how some exploitation films would base the plot around something from the headlines in the most arbitrary way possible cuz the movies were about killing or blowing shit up regardless. Here's the article:
http://www.deadline.com/2010/09/the-real-hidden-machete-message/
http://www.deadline.com/2010/09/the-real-hidden-machete-message/
White people are bad, Republicans all deserve to die, minority power, functional director.....yawn.
This isn't political, it's an exercise in appealing to the idiocy of people who mistake racism* for political debate and need their "politics" to be summed up in a ______ = EVIL statement. In other words, right up the average film critic's alley, and the majority of this site, I'd warrant. Enjoy it.
* and as another poster already noted, if you're wondering whether a picture is racist or not, just reverse all the races in the film, see if that helps.
This isn't political, it's an exercise in appealing to the idiocy of people who mistake racism* for political debate and need their "politics" to be summed up in a ______ = EVIL statement. In other words, right up the average film critic's alley, and the majority of this site, I'd warrant. Enjoy it.
* and as another poster already noted, if you're wondering whether a picture is racist or not, just reverse all the races in the film, see if that helps.
See for example The Wild Bunch, a movie about a group of white guy outlaws who murder hundreds of Mexicans in slow motion for the last hour. It's widely considered a classic of American cinema. Anyone regularly call that one out for being racist? How about Big Trouble in Little China, where a white guy kills a bunch of Asian guys who all know kung fu? Then of course there's the cinematic milestone of Birth of a Nation, where the KKK heroically triumphs over the primitive black man. Or what about the dozens of video games where white people kill middle eastern terrorists?Tarrou said:
Sorry, but these types of genre pieces are going to be about killing someone and that someone is going to be of an ethnicity. The fact that ONE movie comes out that shows brown people killing white people and it throws a bunch of pundits into a tizzy shows a little bit of oversensitivity. Get over yourselves white people.
This isn't about favoring anyone over anyone else. You are wasting your money trying to keep anyone out. And by not "showing compassion" you put thousands of people into the status of criminal. This means that they cannot work regular jobs and have to be paid under the table. That way, you get paid less than minimum wage and your boss blackmails you into working for free. Plus, you don't pay taxes because you don't have a social security number. This screws up the police and public schools because there's less taxable income. Because you can't make any money worth a damn, your kids get hungry. Then your kids start stealing so they aren't as hungry. This is how slums are born White people would do this just as easily when put into a similar situation and they did, like when the Irish and Italian immigrants got treated like garbage. This is how the mafia was born.RDubayoo said:
By adopting the attitude of "I hate you because you're different," or "I'm scared because those people are different" you're only repeating history. Putting immigrants out of work and / or deporting them makes life worse for all of us.