Escape to the Movies: Maleficent - An Unusual Fairy Tale of Revenge
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Jolie as Malificent is enough for me to go see it anyway, just to see how mad she can make that character. Good to know that it's memorable, too.
And is this review subtitle a thing now, or is it there through choice? Getting mixed messages through these last few weeks.
And is this review subtitle a thing now, or is it there through choice? Getting mixed messages through these last few weeks.
I'm surprised at the whole 'sympathetic villain' backlash movies like Maleficent have been getting.
I thought giving dimension to characters, through backstory and perspective change, was the way to give them depth.
I thought giving dimension to characters, through backstory and perspective change, was the way to give them depth.
Bob's review convinced me to check it out just for the hell of it. This movie sounds like such a crazy idea that I can't help but want to see it with my own eyes.
Oh, and I don't think Jafar would be the ideal candidate for a revisionist retelling; I think it could work for Scar or the villain from Frozen, though. Maybe Gaston as well.
Oh, and I don't think Jafar would be the ideal candidate for a revisionist retelling; I think it could work for Scar or the villain from Frozen, though. Maybe Gaston as well.
The thing that gets me about this movie is, Who is it's audience?
It's not for kids or families
It's not for teenagers
It's not for males craving CGI transformers type of action
I doubt it's going to appeal towards women (not being one I couldn't say for sure, but wife has no interest).
It's not an art house type of movie
So I'm really asking, who is this movie made for?
It's not for kids or families
It's not for teenagers
It's not for males craving CGI transformers type of action
I doubt it's going to appeal towards women (not being one I couldn't say for sure, but wife has no interest).
It's not an art house type of movie
So I'm really asking, who is this movie made for?
from what I hear she's only evil because of what a man did, if true I understand the criticism.Andrew Siribohdi said:
I still can't tell if he actually liked it or not. I guess he's recommending it to just so we can go see this kind of madness, and it is madness I saw the film last night at 7. Pretty much all he said is spot on, but I myself, liked it. I'm hoping there is some kind of Director's Cut of this film. I would pay good money to see that.
Disney's Kill Bill? Bob, you just make me actually want to watch this movie. I love Kill Bill. Oh, and that movie wasn't anything about "rape" at all. It was a betrayal movie with a love story mixed into it. The only part of "rape" was about the male nurse in the first movie that apparently had sex with her and other coma victims (he got what he deserved by having his head smashed in with the door). The rest of the story was that she was originally attacked by Bill and the snakes because if he can't have her, no one can. After that, it was simply revenge against those that did her wrong.
I was wondering how the I spit on your grave comparison was gonna play into the story. But holy crap. This sounds so nuts that I just gotta see this.
Wow I'm slowed. I didn't realise the wings cut off was a rape subtext which I guess reinforce that I did felt the reinterpret of Sleepy Beauty is kind of like political correction or rather updated with modern society over old fairy tale
Yeah the three faries annoyed me in the film since they were pretty much the three stooges and who ideas was it to let them raise the child thinking they are good carer material just cos they got magic?
Overall I did thought the film was alright and had no expectation (it was the only decent film after Godzilla and X-men and I'm not too keen on Edge of Tomorrow) to it as I had pretty much forgotten the actual story.
Ok so the Prince kiss did not wake her up thinking he is the "true love kiss". It make sense in today views since while he met and is attracted to her, he does not know her alot.
I felt Melficent affection for Aurora was not genuine thanks to that fairy wish "she will be loved by all" which I guess include Maleficent herself.
Overall I did thought the film was alright and had no expectation (it was the only decent film after Godzilla and X-men and I'm not too keen on Edge of Tomorrow) to it as I had pretty much forgotten the actual story.
Huh. I thought you'd hate this because as you said, Maleficent is the first and only Disney villain to be played completely straight without any redeeming factor or quirkiness to her. To try and create a framework capable of painting the 'mistress of all evil' as good sounds awkward as all hell.
As for Jafar, it's already halfway done. The Sultan is an incompetent buffoon without a clue how to run a kingdom who inherited it by birthright. I've already read a fairly good fic where Jafar starts out taken on as a palace guard in his youth and murders and backstabs his way up to the top because he feels he would run the kingdom better.
As for Jafar, it's already halfway done. The Sultan is an incompetent buffoon without a clue how to run a kingdom who inherited it by birthright. I've already read a fairly good fic where Jafar starts out taken on as a palace guard in his youth and murders and backstabs his way up to the top because he feels he would run the kingdom better.
"The maniacal love-child of Mae West and Vegeta...on bath salts."
Pure gold.
Also Jafar was already done in Once Upon a Time in Wonderland, and while his "sympathetic" version is also pretty messed up -
- and is played delightfully by Naveen Andrews, it ultimately comes off as a cliché, a detraction from his also "awesomely evil just 'cause" legacy, and another sticking point to a show that was, despite one or two bright spots, a trainwreck.
Pure gold.
Also Jafar was already done in Once Upon a Time in Wonderland, and while his "sympathetic" version is also pretty messed up -
He is a bastard child and his father the Sultan has him live as a slave before trying to DROWN him, giving him both abandonment issues that drive the entire story and a crippling fear of water preyed upon by the bizarre fear-sensing human Jabberwocky
- and is played delightfully by Naveen Andrews, it ultimately comes off as a cliché, a detraction from his also "awesomely evil just 'cause" legacy, and another sticking point to a show that was, despite one or two bright spots, a trainwreck.
Hmm. I've never really understood the appeal of Angelina Jolie as an actor but I'll admit she has a presence in this role that at least intrigues me and I do admit I love the visual style they've gone for.
The review/critique at least gives me hope for an interesting ride if nothing else.
My primary complaint with the setup to Maleficent was that I don't want to see a complete revisionist story that repaints her as the hero of the story.
What I'm more concerned with is taking an established setting and characters and revising the structure to make the villain into the hero.
The review/critique at least gives me hope for an interesting ride if nothing else.
It's a tricky tightrope to walk though. Staging events to make villainous actions relatable or even potentially justified is one thing and when done well they can provide an alternate take on a character that I'm more than prepared to accept.Andrew Siribohdi said:
My primary complaint with the setup to Maleficent was that I don't want to see a complete revisionist story that repaints her as the hero of the story.
What I'm more concerned with is taking an established setting and characters and revising the structure to make the villain into the hero.
Actually, I think touching any of the post Little Mermaid works would be a bad idea. In those cases, all the villains were actually developed enough to make such revisionism unlikely. Jafar wanted the power of both magic and politics. Gaston was already an inversion of the traditional hunter hero by turning him into a jock (and likely rapist). And the Lion King is kind of untouchable given that it has had two major incarnations[footnote]the screen version which held a top ten grossing box office for more than a decade (and remains the highest grossing hand-drawn animation) and the iconic Broadway stage production that could be regarded as starting the Broadway Megashow era[/footnote], both of which are divergent enough to make a reboot unjustified.Uriel_Hayabusa said:
OT: So, yeah... I think I'll take a look at this one just to see what it looks like.
Teenagers would be one audience, particularly the Tolkien-loving crowd, as well as Gen Xers and boomers who grew up with the story as part of their childhood.Ickabod said: