- Aug 5, 2009
Does anyone else cringe when Jolie tries an English accent, or is it just me?
Lionheart from Robin Hood better make an appearance.Soviet Heavy said:A Jafar story in this vein would probably be set in the fucking Crusades.
That idea... might not be completely unwatchable.Soviet Heavy said:A Jafar story in this vein would probably be set in the fucking Crusades.
Like the overgrimmed fairytales its an idea taken too far and act first had class act reasons (Macguire's output is effectivelly putting gay and nonnormal people BACK into the iconic works they feel disconnected with, Wicked is effectively an oz story for the counterculture kid of the 90s)Diddy_Mao said:Hmm. I've never really understood the appeal of Angelina Jolie as an actor but I'll admit she has a presence in this role that at least intrigues me and I do admit I love the visual style they've gone for.
The review/critique at least gives me hope for an interesting ride if nothing else.
It's a tricky tightrope to walk though. Staging events to make villainous actions relatable or even potentially justified is one thing and when done well they can provide an alternate take on a character that I'm more than prepared to accept.Andrew Siribohdi said:I'm surprised at the whole 'sympathetic villain' backlash movies like Maleficent have been getting.
I thought giving dimension to characters, through backstory and perspective change, was the way to give them depth.
My primary complaint with the setup to Maleficent was that I don't want to see a complete revisionist story that repaints her as the hero of the story.
What I'm more concerned with is taking an established setting and characters and revising the structure to make the villain into the hero.
The only traditionally powerful figures of women are villains or chaotic forces, UNLESS they are nurturers or just gals doing guy things. ITs why Artemis is the emblem of girl power of the greek deities NOT Athena who actually got off her ass and did shit. Because artemis is aggressively NOT tied to fulfilling a role for men and defines her boundaries.2xDouble said:Moral of the story: All stories are lies, no matter who is telling it.
Here's my problem:
Since when does Maleficent, of all people, need to be sympathetic? She does what she does because she felt like doing it; because she could, not because of some asshole hurt her feelings. Before she was a bold, powerful creature of pure will, completely in control of herself and her destiny (for the most part), and now she's nothing; a victim, her agency completely stripped from her first by a man she thought she loved and then by a child she didn't want. (That "implied rape" goes deeper than onscreen action, does it not? well played, Disney... I think.)
So it's perfectly fine for some men just wanting to watch the world burn, but women? no, that's to much for her. She must have been raped.
Well Disney/ABC currently has there TV show Once Upon a Time which is quite popular that does this sort of subversion all the time... although maybe a little less dramatic (judging by the review) and always on a TV budget. But anyways on the show we've seen things like the Evil Queen (from Snow White) join the 'good' team, and Peter Pan play a major asshole villain while Captain Hook is the good guy.Ickabod said:The thing that gets me about this movie is, Who is it's audience?
It's not for kids or families
It's not for teenagers
It's not for males craving CGI transformers type of action
I doubt it's going to appeal towards women (not being one I couldn't say for sure, but wife has no interest).
It's not an art house type of movie
So I'm really asking, who is this movie made for?