Escape to the Movies: Pompeii

[Canadamus Prime]

Oh so it really is like Titanic where I spent most of the movie waiting for the ship to hit the fucking iceberg.

...wait they're remaking Stargate??? Ugh *facepalm*

 

[SnakeoilSage]

That's a fine criticism and all, but it will really only carry any weight when Marvel Studios puts out a movie that doesn't primarily revolve around a white dude. There's supposedly a black widow movie in the works, so I'm hopeful there, but I'm a little confused why all the superhero film studios think only a white lead can carry their movie, given how significant the success of the Blade films was to helping the whole superhero film wave really get moving.

Did DC release a movie starring a non-white actor as its star? Oh right. Steel.

I don't believe Marvel thinks that "white dudes" are the only ones to carry movies. It's just the reality of the source material that the majority of comic book heroes were aimed at white boys, hence their overwhelming white cast. That's destined to change of course. Just look at the Power Man netflix series they're working on.

The point of the picture is that Marvel has embraced its comic book weirdness, a boldness that is infectious. DC hasn't. It's terrified of its own source material, which serves only to insult both it and its fanbase.

 

[daxterx2005]

Cannot wait for attack of the Raccoon and Tree

 

[Quiotu]

By Marvel's track record are you referring to all one shows they've done so far?

I am aware of at least three TV programs Marvel has done: Marvel's Agents of SHIELD, the Incredible Hulk, and Spider-Man. That is, of course, referring only to live-action series and is ignoring all the animated series they've done, which are too numerous for me to even bother counting.

Anyone who cares could probably Google it and come up with about fifty titles.

Marvel did Spider-Man? Looks like that was produced by MGM Television. The Bill Bixby Incredible Hulk series was done by Kenneth Johnson and James D. Parriott. I don't see Marvel's name in either of these... want to explain how them giving rights to make a series is the same as them making a series themselves? Because those are really really different things if you haven't figured that out.

 

[lowkey_jotunn]

I would just like to announce that I am, indeed, hooked on a feeling.

I might even go so far as to say that I'm high on believing.

That I'm in love with a smarmy raccoon firing an assault rifle while riding on a treant.

I mean seriously... I was a little *meh* on the whole GotG vibe from the Thor 2 stinger, but this trailer has me onboard 100%

OOGA OOGA OOGA CHAKA

 

[GiantRaven]

This has been going around the internet lately.

So what you're saying is that it's ok we don't get badass female-led superhero films because we get an anthropomorphic animated talking animal. Something the likes of which have never been seen in cinema before.

 

[Makabriel]

THEY ARE NOT REMAKING STARGATE!!!

It was a joke!

Ugh...

*facepalm.

 

[Safaia]

So am I the only one who the whole 'Anderson usually gets to the point here time to end the video quickly' gag?

 

[Arcane Azmadi]

"Didn't see Pompe I". That one was funny.

Yeah, Guardians of the Galaxy is looking great. But, uh, was 'Hooked On A Feeling' part of the original trailer, or did Bob add it in himself because of how pumped he is about this?

 

[Jacco]

God, as a person who studied Latin and has been to Rome, this movie just feels horrible.

If you want to make a movie of people in Pompeii (and nearby Herculaneum since that also got wiped out),their lives and how they reacted to a volcano(no science so they probably thought Vulcan was angry), focus on the little people: the artisans, the prostitutes (kind of a poor term since the politics surrounding them gave the women a lot of control)and the families who probably used the volcano's geothermal heat for the thermae. Focus on a small personal story about ordinary people living their lives normally before the volcano and looking back on their lives. Why did you have to make a story about a girl falling for a poor boy with competition from a rich suitor; it's been done to death and can be done at any location with any type of situation. Its just a waste of a concept and location.

The idea that ancient humans didn't have any understanding of what we call science is asinine. Especially the Romans. Really, only very early humans attributed events like that to gods. Any reasonably advanced society had at least an idea about natural/supernatural. The Romans were advanced enough to know that a volcano eruption was a natural event, even if they didn't fully understand why.

People seem to have this idea that humans were 100% superstitious until about 1500. That's just not the case. They had the same cognitive and intellectual abilities as we do.

 

[Jacco]

Emily Browning is so obscenely awesome that her being in it makes this movie worth seeing on its own.

That was the case with Sucker Punch as well.

 

[Jacco]

Yeah....

Pompeii was already destroyed about by an earthquake 17 years before the eruption of Vesuvius. So they were probably still rebuilding parts of it. Nice work on your history movie makers.
The people in Pompeii were killed by a pyroclastic flow that issued forth from the volcano when it erupted, which hit the city well before any rocks and lava. This is a wave of superheated air. It travels at about 450 miles per hour, reaches around the 1000 degrees C and can travel over water. Seems also that there is a kind of tsunami involved here too. This is wrong. A pyroclastic flow would have caused a tsunami, but in THE OTHER DIRECTION, due to it, after a certain distance travelling over the Med burrowing under water and causing the tsunami. Nice work on your history and physics movie makers.
Also Italy used to be a few miles wider in the old days. This is due to erosion. There is a palace from the time of Nero on the bottom of the Mediterranean due to this. So Pompeii would be larger and further away from the sea. So again, nice work on your history and geography movie makers.

Since I haven't seen the movie I cannot comment on their portrayal of Roman culture, but I can make a safe bet that they got that horribly wrong as well.

However there is one thing. Most marriages were arranged. This happened when most women were still little girls. Romans married girls when they were 12 or 13. So the female in the movie here should have been MUCH younger. Marriages were arranged when the girls were usually around 8 to 10.

I bet you found Day After Tomorrow and 2012 unwatchable because of the science as well? Come on, dude, it's a movie. Not a documentary. And if you're surprised that Hollywood gets EVERYTHING in history wrong, then I feel sorry for you because they get literally EVERYTHING in history wrong. lol

 

[Ratty]

Pompeii looks awful (and not the good kind of awful) but I could have told you that just from the name and poster.

Spoiler Alert for Guardians of the Galaksie:
No main Character dies and all major Plot Events are postponed to the sequels as this movie just sets up the franchise.

Hah yeah.

By Marvel's track record are you referring to all ONE shows they've done so far? The one that's still Tuesdays' second highest-rated show next to NCIS? If that first sentence was meant as snark, then it's about as full of shit as you could get without it seeping into the sentences around it.

He was probably thinking more about Marvel's pre-Disney buyout efforts in the realm of TV movies [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_ej_qTg2L0] and shows.

 

[JimB]

I don't see Marvel's name in either of these... want to explain how them giving rights to make a series is the same as them making a series themselves? Because those are really, really different things, if you haven't figured that out.

"Marvel properties," then, if that suits you better.

 

[JimB]

Is 'Hooked On A Feeling' part of the original trailer, or did Bob add it in himself because of how pumped he is about this?

It's part of the trailer. There's a joke involving a Walkman.

 

[Izanagi009_v1legacy]

God, as a person who studied Latin and has been to Rome, this movie just feels horrible.

If you want to make a movie of people in Pompeii (and nearby Herculaneum since that also got wiped out),their lives and how they reacted to a volcano(no science so they probably thought Vulcan was angry), focus on the little people: the artisans, the prostitutes (kind of a poor term since the politics surrounding them gave the women a lot of control)and the families who probably used the volcano's geothermal heat for the thermae. Focus on a small personal story about ordinary people living their lives normally before the volcano and looking back on their lives. Why did you have to make a story about a girl falling for a poor boy with competition from a rich suitor; it's been done to death and can be done at any location with any type of situation. Its just a waste of a concept and location.

The idea that ancient humans didn't have any understanding of what we call science is asinine. Especially the Romans. Really, only very early humans attributed events like that to gods. Any reasonably advanced society had at least an idea about natural/supernatural. The Romans were advanced enough to know that a volcano eruption was a natural event, even if they didn't fully understand why.

People seem to have this idea that humans were 100% superstitious until about 1500. That's just not the case. They had the same cognitive and intellectual abilities as we do.

apologies about the inaccuracy. Thank you for the information. I still think that the movie had no reason to be in Pompeii

 

[GamerFromJump]

Stargate reboot?

With Katy Perry?



imdb has nothing. The picture looks ridiculous. MovieBob, please tell me you're joking. Please.

EDIT: Oh thank God in Heaven, it's a joke. The pic is actually from Katy Perry's "Dark Horse" video.

OK, good. Scared me for a minute.

 

[ExtraDebit]

Why would they reboot stargate? The first movie was perfectly fine!!! I would understand a sequel or even a spin off of the same universe, but reboot?? really?

Yeah fantastic 4 would suck.

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

"Didn't see Pompe I". That one was funny.

Yeah, Guardians of the Galaxy is looking great. But, uh, was 'Hooked On A Feeling' part of the original trailer, or did Bob add it in himself because of how pumped he is about this?

No, it's 100% legit part of the trailer, and I think it gives the trailer some serious personality.

 

[JenSeven]

Yeah....

Pompeii was already destroyed about by an earthquake 17 years before the eruption of Vesuvius. So they were probably still rebuilding parts of it. Nice work on your history movie makers.
The people in Pompeii were killed by a pyroclastic flow that issued forth from the volcano when it erupted, which hit the city well before any rocks and lava. This is a wave of superheated air. It travels at about 450 miles per hour, reaches around the 1000 degrees C and can travel over water. Seems also that there is a kind of tsunami involved here too. This is wrong. A pyroclastic flow would have caused a tsunami, but in THE OTHER DIRECTION, due to it, after a certain distance travelling over the Med burrowing under water and causing the tsunami. Nice work on your history and physics movie makers.
Also Italy used to be a few miles wider in the old days. This is due to erosion. There is a palace from the time of Nero on the bottom of the Mediterranean due to this. So Pompeii would be larger and further away from the sea. So again, nice work on your history and geography movie makers.

Since I haven't seen the movie I cannot comment on their portrayal of Roman culture, but I can make a safe bet that they got that horribly wrong as well.

However there is one thing. Most marriages were arranged. This happened when most women were still little girls. Romans married girls when they were 12 or 13. So the female in the movie here should have been MUCH younger. Marriages were arranged when the girls were usually around 8 to 10.

I bet you found Day After Tomorrow and 2012 unwatchable because of the science as well? Come on, dude, it's a movie. Not a documentary. And if you're surprised that Hollywood gets EVERYTHING in history wrong, then I feel sorry for you because they get literally EVERYTHING in history wrong. lol

No, I wouldn't find those movies unwatchable, although I haven't watched either of them. This is because those movies profile themselves as science fiction movies.
Pompeii is a historical drama, just like Titanic. With this I expect a certain degree of research, knowledge and accuracy.
James Cameron did his best to make his movie as historically accurate as possible (even though he did make a few minor errors due to over-dramatization of certain parts of the movie), Pompeii is a shambles. Fact-checkers and researchers seem to be pretty rare in Hollywood, let alone people that "know" things.

If they had done the slightest bit of research, they would have known that one of the most common finds in Pompeii were buckets of plaster. They were still replastering the houses from the earthquake 17 years earlier. They would also have known that Pompeii was a "pleasure resort". If I remember correctly, there is an entire museum in Napels dedicated to all the smut they dug up there. It's no longer open to the public, Napels seems to have limited the access to it.

Also I noticed that the Vesuvius depicted in the movie was an open volcano. This is again wrong. Like the current Vesuvius it was capped. This is what makes that volcano so dangerous. Because it is capped, it keeps all the hot volcanic gasses inside and keeps them there, building the pressure inside. When this pressure exceeds the limits of the structure of the volcano it explodes, releasing all the pressurised hot gasses at once. This is the pyroclastic flow.
Vesuvius is fundamentally different from other volcanoes like Etna and much more dangerous.