Escape to the Movies: Predators

[Skizmore]

So after 200 comments, I suppose I'm pretty late to the game here. But what the hell, I'll throw this plug out there anyway:

Nimród Antal wrote and directed a film called "Kontroll" (2003). It's a superb film (even as far as superb films go) and I'd see anything that man has had his hand in. Like Predators, for example.

 

[tamerman]

SPOILERS!

At 4:42 in the video you see about 10 of the Predator laser trackers on Brody, and yet in the movie itself, there are only 3 Predators. Where did the other 7 trackers come from?

During the movie, you have the Doctor character running as bait from that one strange creature. It definetly is not a Predator, as it does not have the facemask, the cloaking device, or anything. What was that thing and why did it just kind of get dropped later in the movie?

And finally, what's the deal with this Predator blood fued. You have the one normal Predator (as in the one you see in the AVP movies and the original Predator movies) bound and left for dead in the Predator camp, and then all the other strange Predators who have different skin coloring and longer faces. That whole thing was just brushed on, never really explained. But what I want to know is, is there some story line not seen in the movie that has to do with this strange fued? (like something in the comic books?)

This is all explained within the movie. (With exception to the 1st, which is in the wiki)

1. The laser-tracking thing was a lie. Only one laser appeared in that scene in the movie, and all the others were edited into every trailer for some reason. I don?t know why, look it up.

2. This was explained right after they found the things corpse. This is not a predator; it is another species the predators captured to hunt (you can see a skinned one hanging upside down in the predator camp I believe). It attacked the doctor because it thought his species were the ones who brought him to the preserve. The scene was mostly used to show that the eight humans were not the only things being hunted, and that humans were not the only species.

3. The man with the pred mask tells us about this. in a rough quote from the movie: "there are two kinds of em, but not that different. Kind of like the difference between a dog and a wolf? The big ones? Well they hunt the little ones? that isn?t perfect, but you get the idea. the new predators are the "big" predators, which are in a kind of civil war with the "classic" predators, and hunt them down in addition to humans, aliens, and other species. and while i don?t know of any outside-source material that can expand on the idea, i heard there will be a group of comics coming out that will tell a little more about the story. (nine i think, maybe five. im not sure, look the movie up on wikipidia) if anything this can probably be a setup for another predator movie, or at the very least some fuel for the next AVP movie. (it is hinted at the end of AVP2 that humans will be going to the predator planet or something)

 

[0megaZer0]

This review has just made me realized something about you Bob...

You're completely biased.

perhaps you do'nt realize or recognize this yourself, but all you care about in a movie is if it represents your own personal views correctly (and having some good action sequences and/or some artsy bs in it does'nt hurt).

What you want is a movie that basically turns society on its ass, something shocking that has a 'message' to send; something that proclaims how utterly shitty one aspect of society currently is by portraying it "realisticly" on screen. Like in district 9 where human/alien and/or animal rights/treatment involving kindness are shown to be nonexistant, or in watchmen where human nature is made out to be absolutely and ultimately violent with a tendancy to war eachother out of existance to the point that the only solution to this is to have us vent this tendancy at a common enemy decided through genocide. You want this same thing for the Predator series, except with hunting being the victim.

By that same token, you also by default dislike anything that represents a theme or message that you do not agree with, one that paints the world as all butterflys and rainbows, or anything remotely close to a 'religious concept' like following what a 'god' tells you just for the sake of it in Eli (I wonder what you think of 'Blues Brothers' by the way...) or abstinence in Twilight (do'nt get me wrong, I'm not saying that Twilight is good, but there are much more reasons to hate Twilight than the christian/mormon themes in it).


Wow Bob... I mean, maybe I'm just being unfair and this is something everyone does, but wow... I thought you were different...

When I review something to someone, though im not a critic... It strongly involves my own opinions of a movie... if Bob doesnt like a movie because it doesnt show a message he agrees with... thats his opinion. Don't watch Movie Bob if you want him to be 100% unbiased. BECAUSE THAT SORT OF THING EXISTS AMIRITE?

cool your jets dude. It is virtually impossible to be 100% unbiased, but I never said I expected him to be. You can at least strive to be objective, to differentiate between what specifically appeals to YOU and what would most likely be important to your viewers.. you know, being professional...

 

[DTWolfwood]

no where as good as what bob had said. Saw it and left it feeling empty

and i don't understand y everyone hates on predator 2 Thought that movie was more entertaining since Danny Glover brought along his "I'm too old for this shit" Vibe XD

Spoiler

a predator falling to a human with a sword is bullshit while one can survive 4-6 grenades going off at point blank range? WTF

 

[Fearzone]

Just as an anthropology study, since I have a friend who likes Twilight who was going, I went ahead and saw Eclipse, and I actually to my surprise found myself mildly entertained--at least enough to be rooting for the werewolf boyfriend in all of this.

Still, whoa, the whole vampire = virginity or whatever thing--WTF?!? That is about the most imaginative interpretation of anything I've ever seen.

And if the vampire guy wants to wait until marriage-- so what? It's his choice. He never said you should. He said it is what he prefers.

And if she doesn't like it, I'm pretty sure the werewolf whould show no such restraint...

 

[LXQUICKJUSTICE]

Like I said, issues. Look at you rage!

 

[LXQUICKJUSTICE]

great movie

 

[The Procrastinated End]

Edit: And in relation to the seemingly-tribal yet technologically sophisticated predators, maybe the reason they hunt like they do is not for sport or to bring home a trophy (They don't eat the humans they kill, do they? That might be the reason), but because all of the predators we see are adolescent predators that are sent to kill whatever they can to prove their status as a "real man" back at the predators' home planet. Instead of trophy hunting because you need to prove to yourself that you're more manly than everyone else, you trophy hunt because of a traditional rite of passage all predators must go through.

And you know what kind of societies on Earth go through this whole "rites that make you a real man" and "rites of passage all male teenagers go through" kind of thing?

Tribes! God damn technologically retarded tribes.

So the advanced alien race needs to be exactly like humanity and can't stray from it in any way?

 

[Z(ombie)fan]

Fuck, this was a disturbing movie.

the doctor dude at the end was worst of all. sadistic freak.

 

[pineapplewizzard]

Im so glas its good. i loved the first and the second wasnt bad. AvP was ok if you just want to see stuff getting destroyed for a few hours.

I'll probbably see it then.

 

[Ashbax]

So it wasn't actually bad? A remake of a movie that wasn't all that good to begin with was nearly as good as that movie?

I'm amazed.

Edit: And in relation to the seemingly-tribal yet technologically sophisticated predators, maybe the reason they hunt like they do is not for sport or to bring home a trophy (They don't eat the humans they kill, do they? That might be the reason), but because all of the predators we see are adolescent predators that are sent to kill whatever they can to prove their status as a "real man" back at the predators' home planet. Instead of trophy hunting because you need to prove to yourself that you're more manly than everyone else, you trophy hunt because of a traditional rite of passage all predators must go through.

Nah, they dont eat their prey. And hell, yes, the old predators ("Elders") send young ones out to prove their worth when they reach age, by killing shit, usually aliens if your gonna listen to the AvP franchise, but thats only so they can move on to more prey, not just a single test. Almost all the predators kill shit, and the elders sure as hell did alot of killing, as well as wanting moar killing. They just dont anymoar I guess, too old or ghey or something.

 

[Ashbax]

Fuck, this was a disturbing movie.

the doctor dude at the end was worst of all. sadistic freak.

Yeah, but his death was AWESOME. And the whole stabbing-up-the-mouth, lolol.

 

[Fraught]

Edit: And in relation to the seemingly-tribal yet technologically sophisticated predators, maybe the reason they hunt like they do is not for sport or to bring home a trophy (They don't eat the humans they kill, do they? That might be the reason), but because all of the predators we see are adolescent predators that are sent to kill whatever they can to prove their status as a "real man" back at the predators' home planet. Instead of trophy hunting because you need to prove to yourself that you're more manly than everyone else, you trophy hunt because of a traditional rite of passage all predators must go through.

And you know what kind of societies on Earth go through this whole "rites that make you a real man" and "rites of passage all male teenagers go through" kind of thing?

Tribes! God damn technologically retarded tribes.

So the advanced alien race needs to be exactly like humanity and can't stray from it in any way?

Yeap, pretty much.

 

[Z(ombie)fan]

Fuck, this was a disturbing movie.

the doctor dude at the end was worst of all. sadistic freak.

Yeah, but his death was AWESOME. And the whole stabbing-up-the-mouth, lolol.

yea, I know, but it was still messed up. You see, Im bipolar. my happy phase it STrikingly similiar to him before hand. hes disturbing PESONALLY.

more so: "Im one of YOU!" to a predator. He blows up. target doesnt die. he does. the whole movieis in a jungle anyway.

HMMMMMMM.

past move referencing!

 

[F8L Fool]

I'd sure as hell love to know where the scene in the trailer showing Adrian Brody being targeted by dozens of Predator lasers went. I mean it's not in the movie, and nothing even remotely similar is in it.

How do you go from something that tantalizing to nothing resembling it? Hate it when the trailer has cool stuff that simply is absent from the finished product. Mostly because you're just waiting anxiously for that event to arrive in the movie and it just never comes.

 

[Lucifer dern]

people say its good so ill probs go see it
dont really ttrust bob after he said prince of persia was a good movie...serusly.......was that a prank...

 

[Dioxide20]

SPOILERS!

At 4:42 in the video you see about 10 of the Predator laser trackers on Brody, and yet in the movie itself, there are only 3 Predators. Where did the other 7 trackers come from?

During the movie, you have the Doctor character running as bait from that one strange creature. It definetly is not a Predator, as it does not have the facemask, the cloaking device, or anything. What was that thing and why did it just kind of get dropped later in the movie?

And finally, what's the deal with this Predator blood fued. You have the one normal Predator (as in the one you see in the AVP movies and the original Predator movies) bound and left for dead in the Predator camp, and then all the other strange Predators who have different skin coloring and longer faces. That whole thing was just brushed on, never really explained. But what I want to know is, is there some story line not seen in the movie that has to do with this strange fued? (like something in the comic books?)

This is all explained within the movie. (With exception to the 1st, which is in the wiki)

1. The laser-tracking thing was a lie. Only one laser appeared in that scene in the movie, and all the others were edited into every trailer for some reason. I don?t know why, look it up.

2. This was explained right after they found the things corpse. This is not a predator; it is another species the predators captured to hunt (you can see a skinned one hanging upside down in the predator camp I believe). It attacked the doctor because it thought his species were the ones who brought him to the preserve. The scene was mostly used to show that the eight humans were not the only things being hunted, and that humans were not the only species.

3. The man with the pred mask tells us about this. in a rough quote from the movie: "there are two kinds of em, but not that different. Kind of like the difference between a dog and a wolf? The big ones? Well they hunt the little ones? that isn?t perfect, but you get the idea. the new predators are the "big" predators, which are in a kind of civil war with the "classic" predators, and hunt them down in addition to humans, aliens, and other species. and while i don?t know of any outside-source material that can expand on the idea, i heard there will be a group of comics coming out that will tell a little more about the story. (nine i think, maybe five. im not sure, look the movie up on wikipidia) if anything this can probably be a setup for another predator movie, or at the very least some fuel for the next AVP movie. (it is hinted at the end of AVP2 that humans will be going to the predator planet or something)

Thanks for answering the questions in such detail.

 

[DeathSnake]

Well i really didn't expect that to happen... Now i feel i have to watch it. Looking at the posters in the Cinema was a definate no for me, due to all the crappy remakes there have been at present (I didn't even bother watching the trailer for it). But if it gets the thumbs up then i guess it's time to watch it.


Either that or watching Twilight has warped his mind and now he's comparing all movies to it, making them All automatically watchable.

 

[tamerman]

SPOILERS!

At 4:42 in the video you see about 10 of the Predator laser trackers on Brody, and yet in the movie itself, there are only 3 Predators. Where did the other 7 trackers come from?

During the movie, you have the Doctor character running as bait from that one strange creature. It definetly is not a Predator, as it does not have the facemask, the cloaking device, or anything. What was that thing and why did it just kind of get dropped later in the movie?

And finally, what's the deal with this Predator blood fued. You have the one normal Predator (as in the one you see in the AVP movies and the original Predator movies) bound and left for dead in the Predator camp, and then all the other strange Predators who have different skin coloring and longer faces. That whole thing was just brushed on, never really explained. But what I want to know is, is there some story line not seen in the movie that has to do with this strange fued? (like something in the comic books?)

This is all explained within the movie. (With exception to the 1st, which is in the wiki)

1. The laser-tracking thing was a lie. Only one laser appeared in that scene in the movie, and all the others were edited into every trailer for some reason. I don?t know why, look it up.

2. This was explained right after they found the things corpse. This is not a predator; it is another species the predators captured to hunt (you can see a skinned one hanging upside down in the predator camp I believe). It attacked the doctor because it thought his species were the ones who brought him to the preserve. The scene was mostly used to show that the eight humans were not the only things being hunted, and that humans were not the only species.

3. The man with the pred mask tells us about this. in a rough quote from the movie: "there are two kinds of em, but not that different. Kind of like the difference between a dog and a wolf? The big ones? Well they hunt the little ones? that isn?t perfect, but you get the idea. the new predators are the "big" predators, which are in a kind of civil war with the "classic" predators, and hunt them down in addition to humans, aliens, and other species. and while i don?t know of any outside-source material that can expand on the idea, i heard there will be a group of comics coming out that will tell a little more about the story. (nine i think, maybe five. im not sure, look the movie up on wikipidia) if anything this can probably be a setup for another predator movie, or at the very least some fuel for the next AVP movie. (it is hinted at the end of AVP2 that humans will be going to the predator planet or something)

Thanks for answering the questions in such detail.

anytime

 

[BrionJames]

The movie was great, I went in pretty excited and hyped-up and...got exactly what I wanted. A good film that wasn't over-thought (or over cgi'd), violent, and entertaining. So yeah in response to the why are predators hunting things when they're technologically advanced? When they look the way they do, you expect them to be peace ambassadors? Aside from that what we can gather (from the little that is explained about them) is that their society is steeped in tradition and that they have a very strange and specific honor code. Further speculation (which is all we can do)makes me wonder if they're bored and have taken to hunting creatures from worlds that are still primitive and incredibly self-destructive(like humans). Or possibly that they have some sort of war going on in their solar system that they do indeed send their adolescent warriors/hunters to train and prove their prowess by hunting dangerous creatures from around the universe (which also sounds like a badass premise). It's a fun interesting creature thought us for our entertainment and kind of stupid to wonder why they haven't all become pacifist a-holes.