Eh, for me substance comes from more than just dialogue. I agree Rises had good dialogue. I didn't like the plot, that's not the same as not liking the script. Most of my issues come from the pacing of it. I'd argue Avengers is a superior film because it had much more fleshed-out character interactions, but that's a case of wit vs plot and Avengers had no plot.Nautical Honors Society said:You haven't really added much to your counter argument.
Once again this has become a battle of opinions.
And to that I must say I respect yours.
For me substance lies in a decently compelling script, and that's all I'm going to say about that.
Good day.
So, I guess we're in agreement then. Sort of. I still think Rises was too silly to have anything hold any weight, but it did have its moments. Well, actually, that's all it had. My opinion is thus: Dark Knight Rises is a handful of perfectly written, perfectly directed, perfectly acted, perfectly scored and perfectly staged set-pieces... stitched together in a less-than-great way. Taking each scene individually, 11/10. Best film of the year. As a whole - editing, overall character arcs and all that - that's where it trips over, and that's where I find fault in the thing, and that's what made me leaving the theater going "ehhhh." Avengers - though I hate to compare - was a coherent, straight line of quality that snowballed all the way through to the credits. Rises was a bunch of incredibly peaks of brilliance, marred by occasional erratic dips of sloppiness. I really liked Rises, but what I hate most is that it was that close to me loving it.
Have you seen Prometheus? Rises actually reminds me a lot of Prometheus. Really, staggeringly well-made bits - I mean like, "wow" moments, and a hell of a lot of them = but stapled together not all that well. And thus I conclude that maybe, just maybe, Rises will redeem itself in the same way Prometheus may - in an extended edition Blu-ray release. It happened with Watchmen, too. I really feel like it just needs one or two more scenes to flesh some things out or improve the pacing, and wham! - near-perfect (if not perfect) film. I know you've not been very into this back and forth, but I'm interested to hear your opinion on this subject if nothing else?