I hope like hell this movie falls flat on its ass at the Oscars; it was boring, the acting was terrible, and really the story sucked...true just my opinion but there it is.
Man, I enjoyed Gladiator, No Country for Old Men and Slumdog. Even though they nail the Oscar formula they do it by entertaining with a kickass story and structure which is not the case of the other ones you mentioned.ahpuch said:Wow Bob, your deep analysis exactly describes the recent winners of
- Hurt Locker
- Slum Dog Millionaire
- No Country for Old Men
- The Departed
- Crash
- Million Dollar Baby
- LotR: Return of the King
- Chicago
- Beautiful Mind
- Gladiator
Oh wait that second last one did have an illness that left the lead still looking handsome. I guess 1 for 10 is a pretty good score for you.
Second that, I haven't seen the king's speech and it sounds dreary and dumb. I actually kidded myself that Black Swan or Inception would win the Oscar.Grayfayce said:I have to say, that was quite lollarific, and a nice mix-up of the old formula. And yes, I also thought that 'The King's Speech' wasn't great - 'The Social Network' was, as you say, far better.
You know the ruleSovvolf said:One thing to mention... I'm sure to hell Geoffrey Rush is Australian.
How in the world does No Country follow Oscar formula?EscapingReality said:Man, I enjoyed Gladiator, No Country for Old Men and Slumdog. Even though they nail the Oscar formula they do it by entertaining with a kickass story and structure which is not the case of the other ones you meahpuch said:Wow Bob, your deep analysis exactly describes the recent winners of
- Hurt Locker
- Slum Dog Millionaire
- No Country for Old Men
- The Departed
- Crash
- Million Dollar Baby
- LotR: Return of the King
- Chicago
- Beautiful Mind
- Gladiator
Oh wait that second last one did have an illness that left the lead still looking handsome. I guess 1 for 10 is a pretty good score for you.
Not to rain on your parade, but I am preety sure Britain was actually one of the last countries to realise how much of a threat Hitler was. At least Britain's policy towards Germany during the interwar period would certainly suggest that, considering the amount of concessions they granted to them (and culminating in the sacrifice of Czechoslovakia's territory). It wasn't until Germany threw the Münich Agreement and the Anglo-German Naval Agreement into a dustbin did the British goverment realise that perhaps it would be a good idea to do something about Germany. Unfortunately, by then, it was way too late to prevent a major war from erupting.Cousin_IT said:To be fair. Films like King's Speech are also made to make British people a bit more comfortable with their increasing insignificance in the modern world by escaping back to a time when we ruled the world & stood alone against the evils of Hitler, who we knew all along was a nasty man but had to hold the battlements until the rest of the world caught on.
We also loooove films showing our monarchy as being "just like us," (the Lady Di effect) so combining the two is a no brainer. Doesn't hurt that Americans seem to lap that sh't up too for some reason.
Maybe we shouldn't have awards at all then. Just enjoy movies.angel85 said:this is why I don't care about oscars, 99% of the time the winner is a movie I never saw or even HEARD of, and if I DID see it I thought it sucked. This is an award show that would benefit from feedback from the movie going public, but then movies like transformers might win and we'd have the opposite problem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAweiV944qIMore Fun To Compute said:As explained by the movie industry's favourite comedian.
Vietnam became more sympathetic later on then it originally was. People started to feel sorry for all the poor bastards sent there. So it is a sympathy vote.PhiMed said:Huh... so that's all it takes?
One question: Forrest Gump was set in America, with a Southern accent, and mostly during the 60's. Does the Viet Nam War override the need for WWII?
If you have looked it up, re-read it... Your doing it wrong. Specially if you think I'm committing one. Though please enlighten me on why that is. I'll point out yours for you "This was an amazing film, Bob doesn't like it because he's annoyed its not Sci-fi/fantasy".secretsantaone said:That's not what I'm doing at all. Maybe you should look up Ad Hominems yourself.
So because he's shown frustration at the sci-fi and fantasy genre being snubbed, that makes his opinions invalid?.secretsantaone said:He states pretty clearly in the review that he's annoyed that Sci-fi/fantasy films often get overlooked in the Oscars,
And what does this have anything to do with their quality? This isn't the MTV movie awards that deal out their awards based on how wide the audience is. This is the Oscars that are supposed to have qualitative judgement. The reason many are frustrated mainly is due to the fact that the Oscars are more about giving awards to what fit a list or to people who it may be "Their time".secretsantaone said:while convieniantly ignoring the fact that the vast majority of Sci-fi/fantasy films appeal to a very specific target audience while character dramas and such appeal to a much larger base.
Sorry but I needed to point it out to you... Its a logically fallacy, which can cripple an arguement.secretsantaone said:Cool patronisation bro.Sovvolf said:Also, please look up the word Ad Hominem to find out what was wrong with your last sentence.
Never said it wasn't... You just asked why it could be seen as a bad thing and I told you why. Which is pretty true... Check this on T.V tropes for more examples http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStorysecretsantaone said:Except this is literally how it happened.
George Vl DID have a stutter.
He DID totally fuck up speeches.
He DID reluctantly go to an unconventional speech therapist.
He WAS reluctant to become King.
He DID become a national hero during World War ll.
Lionel Logue and George Vl DID become great friends.
Of course bits were dramatised or bits added but otherwise the pace of the film would be all out. As historical dramas go, this is pretty darn accurate.
Bob also seems to miss out the fact that a lot of the 'generic plot patterns' in the film happen in just about every other film in existance. You can find the 'fall-out get back together' plot device in everything from Star Trek to every Romantic Comedy ever.