Escape to the Movies: Transformers Revenge

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Watching this movie, despite laughing at an undeniably hilarious rant (albeit a bit too much of Yahtze clonage for me to give him full credit) i was left thinking that this boiled down to little more than fanboy rage.

I went and saw the film because my friend was excited about it and wanted something to do for the afternoon. I didn't think it was going to blow me away, quite the contrary in fact because all i had heard were a string of negative comments.

I try and make a point of going into movies with as little expectations as possible - instead opting for a 'what do i want from this movie' approach. As such i decided that all i wanted to see was a film with brainless action were i don't really have to give a rats ass about the story. I wasn't thinking 'Christ this toy franchise is going to redefine cinema' or 'They better get the placement of Optimus Prime's left exhaust port right' all i wanted was to go and see a movie where stuff gets blown up in some form of context. In short i was following my Arnie impulse.

I was not disappointed, nor do i regret seeing it. Yes the story was shite and yes Michael Bay is obviously a massive jock who thinks he is the greatest thing to come to directing ever and should have a camera jammed up his ass for trouble and to maybe teach him a lession on good angles. But nevertheless this did not ruin the movie for me because i do not understand why people have to get such rage about supposedly ruining something so trivial - they were toys and comics for crying out loud. The only truly deplorable moment was the 'I love you' revival moment. Which is stomach churningly predictable

I sincerely doubt MovieBob as a child played with his transformer figurines making up shakespearian dialogue and oscar worthy sceneplay. Instead i bet he just smashed them together in 'fights' and made 'bechuuuuuuuuurrrrgh' noises as if stuff was exploding. I honestly cannot see why so many people are whinging about this movie - is there really nothing else in the world worth spending effort on other than internet raging about a predictable mediocre but still entertaining film?
 

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Krakyn said:
But...but...Michael Bay blows mad shit up.
And that's all he can really do. I think that some innocuous background prop killed his hamster when he was 6 years old and he's been aching for revenge ever since. Now he gets to BLOW THEM UP! (Background props, not hamsters. Though I wouldn't put that past him.)

Also, Bob... please try to get the visuals to match up with your words better. It's a little disjointed as it is right now.
 

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Bit of a critique of a critique here...

Suddenly he's a fixture on the Escapist and he's TALKING MUCH FASTER. Now I like MovieBob a LOT, and I was just waiting for him to get a proper regular position, but still. He flashes up text while he's talking like Yahtzee does, except (very similar to Yahtzee's quicktime event rant here) when Yahtzee does it it's at least reasonable to read them as you're going. With the ones in this, I had to go back and pause it to actually read all of it. Yes it's funny stuff, but all that it served to do because it was on screen for such a painfully short time was serve to break up his review and make it more disjointed.

This whole thing has given me an idea... to the microphone!

But still. I quite enjoyed both the new Transformers movies, and I am a HUGE fan of the original source material. Considering who Michael Bay IS, I think we have got off exceptionally lightly.
You can't talk calmly and slowly when your mad as hell.

I do like the extreme change of pace in this review, Bob is very nice to listen to when he's very passionate about something. Although now i think about it, he does sound a wee bit too fanboyish in this. I guess if my childhood icons were raped by a jock douchebag director i'd be pretty fucking pissed too.

*Thinks back to the Mario Brothers Movie*

Oh god damnit.
 

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An excellent slamming of that movie, had me laughing in most bits. But i can't shake this feling of "Yahtzeeness" from the way you present your opinions.
 

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Pezzer said:
Y'know, Movie bobs opinions are becoming less and less valued by me. EVERYONE I know liked the Transformers movie and I've been told that the second is even better.
i saw the first and second transformers movie and i luved both i don't know why the fuck no1 can say something nice about movies instead they only talk shittines and shit all over the fucking movie i loved!
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
My irrational opinion is understandable? Doesn't that make it rational?

Let's put it this way, if the film can be renamed "Attack Of The Killer Robots" and have exactly the same premise, effects etc. why bother using a licence that has it's own backstory? Main reason: To bring in the fans of the franchise.
Then...why are they the one group that you then slap round the face?

If you go to see Pride and Prejudice, you want to see Elizabeth capture the heart of Mr. D'arcy; if she walks out on him and shacks up with Miss Lucas (even if it brings in far more viewers) wouldn't you feel just a little betrayed?

Especially if all the cast were wearing jeans and t-shirts?

If you're projecting towards a target audience, as they claim, then you don't stick some woman falling out of her top in, do you?
I meant that the "Nostalgia will make everything better" opinion is irrational.

But I see your point, though you do forget that using an established franchise brings in more of some other things, namely funding and publicity. Honestly however, the promise of explicit lesbian action is probably one of the few things that would inspire me to see a theatrical version of Pride and Prejudice, didn't care for the book.
 

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Things I agree with (basically what I didn't like)
Devastator - Seriously that would've been one hell of a fight, the other autobots (bar optimus) all taking him on would be epic
End fight scene - The kill of Jetfire (although that's more nostalgia then anything) he gives his awesomeness to Prime who then procedes to maul Megatron and The Fallen in around half a second and the fight is completely one sided. He then just shrugs off the armour for no real reason
Soundwave- Yes I know he's the commuincations officer but now's he's a gaint mini space station give the guy a fight scene.
The Twins (seriously maybe just let devastator kill them and that's two problems solved)
And finally when did Starscream become such a coward; he's meant to be Megatron's rival


What I liked
Shia LaBeouf
Fight scenes were much better this time round and I could actually tell what was happening, loved the bit when it was Prime versus the three decepticons
I liked how the autobots had improved over the 2 year gap in terms of fighting ability

Overall I liked the film, not great but watchable
 

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MikeHax said:
Thyunda said:
And I thought the fight scenes were pretty damn clear. The one featuring Optimus Prime and the three Decepticons? That was clear. I saw everything.
It was so clear that I don't even know who Optimus was fighting!

Sorry folks, suck it up, the movie designs are bad. The movies are bad. Accept the fact the you paid money to see a terrible movie and then when three comes out stand up and yell no.
It was kind of obvious who he was fighting. Megatron, Starscream and Blackout...sorry, I mean Grindor.
The movie designs are GOOD. I actually LIKE them. Don't you be telling me to 'suck it up', when you're throwing a strop because you paid money for a film you didn't like.
Stop criticising, and go do something constructive.
Please.
 

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At first i was disagreeing but he makes a good point. The movie didnt even focus on the characters that could make it amazing, which was a HUGE mistake.

Those mecha anime shows that Onmi posted really do show how Bay isnt really close to what he thinks a robot movie should be.
 

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No offense MovieBob, that sounded more like a Micheal Bay hate rant rather than a balanced review of the film. Suck up those mecha-testicles and swallow that over-inflated geek-pride of yours and do something which is at least half-balanced. Not like I didn't agree with some points, but you're starting to sound like a fanboy.

Oh, and try to stop being Yathzee - it doesn't suit you.
 

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But you wouldn't expect more.
Ugh, no. Fuck you. Fuck you sideways.

People like you are the reason everything sucks now. You would spend $20 to watch a mountain of elephant shit burn for 3 and a half hours if popular opinion said you had to. And if anyone questioned its merits? "Oh, well what else would you expect from a flaming mountain of elephant shit?"

I would try to convince you, and others like you, to stop doing this. To start expecting, nay, DEMANDING MORE from filmmakers/writers/game designers, and complain 'til you're blue in the face when someone just shits out something barely passable (especially with a budget like TF2 had). But whatever. You can't handle criticism of a film, let alone yourself.

Keep celebrating mediocrity, you twats.
 
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I meant that the "Nostalgia will make everything better" opinion is irrational.
Nostalgia makes it better to me because that's my memories. I know there was some awful trash in the original Transformers, but then I didn't celebrate that trash.

But I see your point, though you do forget that using an established franchise brings in more of some other things, namely funding and publicity.
I didn't really forget, it was just that bringing in all the extras would have fractured the main thrust of the argument. Which I'll come back to...
Honestly however, the promise of explicit lesbian action is probably one of the few things that would inspire me to see a theatrical version of Pride and Prejudice, didn't care for the book.
And that's my real fear/hatred/rant:
How long 'til we have Half-Life: The Movie where Dirk Freeman rescues the world from the evil (not Arabian at all) Combine who are planning to blow up Tower 13? Starring wise-cracking Jim Carey as Dirk Freeman, Megan Fox as Alyx, Samuel L Jackson as Elias, Ben Stiller as Barney Calhoun and the lovable antics of DOG (voiced by Hank Azaria)
Funnily enough, there's no headcrabs as the test audience didn't like them, but G-Man learns a lesson about how even non-humans can learn to care about the environment.
There's also the sexy alien Vortigaunt, and the "hilarious" adventures of the Dr. Breen.

Tell me you can't see that happening?
 

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Onmi said:
Thyunda said:
MikeHax said:
Thyunda said:
And I thought the fight scenes were pretty damn clear. The one featuring Optimus Prime and the three Decepticons? That was clear. I saw everything.
It was so clear that I don't even know who Optimus was fighting!

Sorry folks, suck it up, the movie designs are bad. The movies are bad. Accept the fact the you paid money to see a terrible movie and then when three comes out stand up and yell no.
It was kind of obvious who he was fighting. Megatron, Starscream and Blackout...sorry, I mean Grindor.
The movie designs are GOOD. I actually LIKE them. Don't you be telling me to 'suck it up', when you're throwing a strop because you paid money for a film you didn't like.
Stop criticising, and go do something constructive.
Please.
The mecha designs are not good by ANY sense of the word, I don't care if you liked them! People liked the Strike Freedom and it was shit to! That's not good design thats you having a bad taste in mecha!
No, you simply don't like them. Stop trying to force your opinion onto other people. If you think the designs were bad, fine. Cry about them elsewhere. Otherwise, shut the fuck up.
 

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ignore everything he says... go watch it and formulate your own opinion like a real person instead of a brainless twit
 

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That was harsh... I do agree that the film was a bit too centred on Sam & Co. but that was just a major rant at Bay not the actual transformers film... I honestly loved both films but i do agree that the second one was centred a bit too much on the human characters when they should have focussed more on the Transformers.