Escape to the Movies: X-Men: First Class
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Ignoring Bobs love of Watchmen, how am I failing here?Nautical Honors Society said:
I agree with you that TDK is currently the best, just pointing out that thinking that a superhero movie will never top it is arrogant. Do you have a crystal ball or something?
Maybe he is one of the greatest, but that still doesnt mean that you can dismiss a film you havent even seen just because it isnt a Nolan movie, as if being directed the guy gives the film some kind of untouchable status.
I am being a contrarian here? For what? For not accepting your opinion that a movie you havent even seen yet does not deserve to be compared with TDK, just because you love the latter?
If I said that Nolan sucks, maybe you would have had a point by calling me a contrarian (even though not liking Nolan does not make one a contrarian). I did not, hence you not having a point.
ehh well bob. the film is ok but just as good as the dark knight? thats reahing it there mate.
theres are things i can say about this film, x men first class. one possative: the relationship with yong profeser x and magneto is very good. thay really do give a likeable and relatable expirince for me. i'm very thankfull that the actors who played them diden't try to "hip them up" for the dumped down youth and tried to put a very convensing and likeable paformence, showing 2 sides diffrent views between them very well and some of the sences of magneto did impress me of cool moments he did in the film.
now the problematic parts i find in it. the side cast and plot. it was abit disapointing that most the cast diden't do or say much that got me intresting to them, diden't like the villens who diden't say much, the dimond girl annoyed me cus its more on looks and less on well kown paformce moments, the young mistek was big of a lame and kinda dullness that diden't intrests me, the action was abit weak aswell as the story and the new mutents for the film diden't give me much and was abit piontless on parts the film.
so what i'm basicly saying is that this film may be better then the last 2 x-men films , but i won't dare say its good as the dark knight.
the 2 main chacraters is good but most was just ok.
hope i said it clear and fair about it. i apolages if i upset anyone and you bob if you seen this, just thought i say something about the review.
your still a great inteligent person, bob. looking forward for your next review.
sorry if thiers bad grammer in this post and thank you for reading.
theres are things i can say about this film, x men first class. one possative: the relationship with yong profeser x and magneto is very good. thay really do give a likeable and relatable expirince for me. i'm very thankfull that the actors who played them diden't try to "hip them up" for the dumped down youth and tried to put a very convensing and likeable paformence, showing 2 sides diffrent views between them very well and some of the sences of magneto did impress me of cool moments he did in the film.
now the problematic parts i find in it. the side cast and plot. it was abit disapointing that most the cast diden't do or say much that got me intresting to them, diden't like the villens who diden't say much, the dimond girl annoyed me cus its more on looks and less on well kown paformce moments, the young mistek was big of a lame and kinda dullness that diden't intrests me, the action was abit weak aswell as the story and the new mutents for the film diden't give me much and was abit piontless on parts the film.
so what i'm basicly saying is that this film may be better then the last 2 x-men films , but i won't dare say its good as the dark knight.
the 2 main chacraters is good but most was just ok.
hope i said it clear and fair about it. i apolages if i upset anyone and you bob if you seen this, just thought i say something about the review.
your still a great inteligent person, bob. looking forward for your next review.
sorry if thiers bad grammer in this post and thank you for reading.
I have a big problem with prequels. I'm not sure why, i just feel things should always be moving "forward", not "backward", and while you're still learning about the intricacies of plot development and character relationships previously unknown from the past, it still lacks so much appeal when you know what's going to be the outcome. And the fact you know it's not going to really conclude, since it can't by its very nature as a prequel. It's the same thing that brings down 'second' movies in a trilogy.
I'm also happy to see that dull blue-grey palette brushed aside. That made the first two almost unbearably dull to watch. It's also highly unsurprising First Class is good - in the first two, you're thrown into the mythology of the universe headfirst. You, the characters and the world all accepts these misfits and their powers. Real excitement comes from discovering superhuman powers for the first time. Part of the reason Spiderman 1 (and in the same vein, Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone) were so good is that you were experiencing the awakening, misuse, and eventual realisation and control of these powers with the character. No-one wants to be thrown into something already established. They want to be introduced gently and then be set free to go wild, before finally being taught the "Uncle Ben" lesson.
I'm also happy to see that dull blue-grey palette brushed aside. That made the first two almost unbearably dull to watch. It's also highly unsurprising First Class is good - in the first two, you're thrown into the mythology of the universe headfirst. You, the characters and the world all accepts these misfits and their powers. Real excitement comes from discovering superhuman powers for the first time. Part of the reason Spiderman 1 (and in the same vein, Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone) were so good is that you were experiencing the awakening, misuse, and eventual realisation and control of these powers with the character. No-one wants to be thrown into something already established. They want to be introduced gently and then be set free to go wild, before finally being taught the "Uncle Ben" lesson.
Gotta say, X-Men First Class was really fun. McAvoy was simply so sweet and innocent that he really did end up more likable than a more worldly Xavier would have. And as far as hot blondes go, personally I think Jennifer Lawrence stole the show.
One minor gripe though: Shaw squares off against Magneto. That's fine. But Shaw is wearing a METAL HELMET at the time! Yes, on his easily squishable head! That's like fighting the Human Torch just after you finished taking a nice dip in a pool filled with gasoline. And while he apparently has the power to absorb energy, that seems not to work when people shove shards of metal through his head. Which a handy dandy metal helmet would turn into when deformed by a guy who controls metal.
And because Erik is brilliant like that, he doesn't use his powers to crush Kevin Bacon's head at all. Please please please, comic book nerds, explain to me why Erik doesn't need to wear his own special padded helmet and cut circles of paper with his safety scissors.
Yes, I know he wants the hat too. But how about just pulling it off Shaw's head using one of only two things he normally does to metal: change its shape or lift it.
One minor gripe though: Shaw squares off against Magneto. That's fine. But Shaw is wearing a METAL HELMET at the time! Yes, on his easily squishable head! That's like fighting the Human Torch just after you finished taking a nice dip in a pool filled with gasoline. And while he apparently has the power to absorb energy, that seems not to work when people shove shards of metal through his head. Which a handy dandy metal helmet would turn into when deformed by a guy who controls metal.
And because Erik is brilliant like that, he doesn't use his powers to crush Kevin Bacon's head at all. Please please please, comic book nerds, explain to me why Erik doesn't need to wear his own special padded helmet and cut circles of paper with his safety scissors.
Yes, I know he wants the hat too. But how about just pulling it off Shaw's head using one of only two things he normally does to metal: change its shape or lift it.
I have the miss fortune of the only X-men movie I have ever seen was Wolverine. I didn't think it was THAT bad, just mostly bland and stupid, though as far as I can tell how much anybody likes that film is inversely proportional to how much of a fan you were of the good films and comics.
However, I might try to get a good start with this one.
However, I might try to get a good start with this one.
Never noticed that. Possibly the helmet could of interfered with his ability to move it when Shaw was wearing it. Or it may of been made out of something which wasn't metal. I still prefer the old (x-men 1 and comic book) explanation that Magneto made the helemt himself to specifically counter Cerebro but what are you going to do?Aureliano said:
Hmm, I was always going to be sceptical of this film, but now my interest has been peaked.
For the record I thought Last Stand pretty good, but Origins was terrible, they could have had so much more fun with Gambit and the sword guy played by Ryan Reynolds, but nooooooo, Hugh Jackman must take every single spotlight.
I guess that is just your nostalgia kicking in though right?
For the record I thought Last Stand pretty good, but Origins was terrible, they could have had so much more fun with Gambit and the sword guy played by Ryan Reynolds, but nooooooo, Hugh Jackman must take every single spotlight.
The Joker was the star of the show, he really stole all my attention, so I think that Heath Ledger played him pretty well.cursedseishi said:
I guess that is just your nostalgia kicking in though right?
Aureliano said:
Because Magneto wasn't just going to kill the man, he was making a point. That man sat in an office and asked him to move that coin: when he couldn't he murdered his mother in front of him on cold blood. Magneto wanted him not only to suffer, to be reminded why he is suffering: killing Sebastian Shaw wasn't motivated by pragmatism but revenge. He also recognized the helmet's ability to block psychics; handy to have.
My only complaint is the really stupid argument Charles uses to try and convince Erik not to turn the missiles and shells back on the ships that fired on them. Of all the possibilities, 'Just following orders' is not only weakest from a general standpoint, but towards a survivor the Holocaust of Nazi Germany's Third Reich it was downright offensive.
However it did allow for a pretty badass response: "I've been at the mercy of men just following orders before, never again"
Thought it was good, but not great, certainly not Dark Knight-tier. Found the tone and narrative to be really rushed and unfocused in the first half, but things improved vastly when it tightened up in the second.
The villains of the Hellfire Club were a real weak point. I still have no idea who Shaw was as a character beyond him wanting to create a mutant-only society and just being a dick.
McAvoy and Fassbender were the definite highlights for me and really; their relationship and dynamic was the only one I found myself invested in during the film. Perhaps if the story had focused more on the characters of the mutants and their relationships and struggle within society it would've helped focus the film? I mean I do realize it's a superhero film and you have to have some form of villain, not to mention setup the next future for the later/earlier films, but I dunno, just something I found lacking.
So yeah, pretty good film. Agreed, that it's on par with the first two X-Men movies, but a Dark Knight it is not.
The villains of the Hellfire Club were a real weak point. I still have no idea who Shaw was as a character beyond him wanting to create a mutant-only society and just being a dick.
McAvoy and Fassbender were the definite highlights for me and really; their relationship and dynamic was the only one I found myself invested in during the film. Perhaps if the story had focused more on the characters of the mutants and their relationships and struggle within society it would've helped focus the film? I mean I do realize it's a superhero film and you have to have some form of villain, not to mention setup the next future for the later/earlier films, but I dunno, just something I found lacking.
So yeah, pretty good film. Agreed, that it's on par with the first two X-Men movies, but a Dark Knight it is not.
Okay first off I agree with everything Bob said, it was an amazing movie.
But
But
Killing off Darwin within the first 30 mins of the film was so stupid. He was one of the main reasons I was excited about the film, yes I knew he was just a side character. But its just sad that he was really put into the film to be "the one that died". Mind you he probably isnt dead and has just become energy. Even still anyone whos read Darwins origins would know that he is a great character and would have been far more interesting to watch over someone like Banshee or Angel.
Can someone please tell me how First Class negated Wolverine? Please, its really bothering me i just don't see it.
I want to have a less geeky opinion from one of you? I like Bob and all and he does unless influenced by his geeky nature know his movies. I like slow paced movies that take time to develop characters and play their genre well.
Hey, there's the new Transformer movie coming out. So, go crazy on that one. =]Arkvoodle said:
Super-hero comic fanatics are fond of their useless knowledge of insanely muddled continuity and value it over proper narrative and character development any time.Mister Linton said:
This movie happens in the 60's. So, not by a long shot.Tdc2182 said:
Spoilers, dude.Gordon_4 said:
Anyway, it served to clearly show how naive he was.
Having seen it, I'm confused how itretcons out the Last Stand (which is of course still terrible). Can anyone explain it? I understand how it does Wolverine Origins (Xavier standing, another girl named Emma) but even those could easily be handwaved to include that movie (telepathic projection, coinicidence)
He was using a holographic image inducer that he invented because he was worried about how he'd appear to the public, then when mutants became more mainstream he outed himself and stuck to being blue and proud. There I made up a perfectly decent excuse that fits with the comics and movies.Sperium 3000 said:
This movie made me utter words I never thought I would say:
"Holy crap. I would so do Magneto."
I was never a big X-Men fan. It was fun, but it never piqued my interest more than any other super hero movie. This, however, might just be one of my favorite movies. I liked it more than Dark Knight *puts up flame shield*. So glad I saw it.
"Holy crap. I would so do Magneto."
I was never a big X-Men fan. It was fun, but it never piqued my interest more than any other super hero movie. This, however, might just be one of my favorite movies. I liked it more than Dark Knight *puts up flame shield*. So glad I saw it.
You pretty much hit the nail on the head, Bob.
If there's one thing I don't like is how MovieBob just seems to over-embellish how bad the last two X-Men movies were. I watch his videos to get an idea of what he thinks about that movie, not how bad other movies are. Besides, having seen X-Men: First Class yesterday, I really, really don't think X-Men 3 or Wolverine are even comparable to it.
Also, my girlfriend hates me for saying how much those two films suck because she loves Hugh Jackman and Gambit. XD
If there's one thing I don't like is how MovieBob just seems to over-embellish how bad the last two X-Men movies were. I watch his videos to get an idea of what he thinks about that movie, not how bad other movies are. Besides, having seen X-Men: First Class yesterday, I really, really don't think X-Men 3 or Wolverine are even comparable to it.
Also, my girlfriend hates me for saying how much those two films suck because she loves Hugh Jackman and Gambit. XD