Escapist heading in "a new direction"
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I was pretty clear. Besides, this thread isn't about you or your site it is about changes the Escapist is undergoing, and what we have to look forward to here so no point derailing about topics most are tired of hearing about anyhow in a thread that has nothing to do with it.Arnoxthe1 said:
So why did you bring it up then? You can talk about it but others can't? As I recall, none of us from Sanc were even the ones who brought it up in the first place. You guys did.Lil devils x said:
Even further, I already contributed something on topic about the forum rules, but that was promptly ignored of course.
I* didn't bring anything up, *you guys* are different people not remotely related. I just addressed the comment that was made, which likely I should have ignored given the positivity of this thread. We have good things to look forward to, no point in wading through negative BS to get to it. I for one am happy they cleaned up the site, it was long overdue before moving forward, hopefully that means we can get more quality content creators on board. I am really hopeful now that they actually started communicating with us that means we have something to look forward to.Arnoxthe1 said:
I mean, what do you think was going to happen? Free Speech isn't actually Free. Part of Free Speech is taking on the responsibility of making your Speech worth listening to. Pretending to be Free Speech usually ends up leading to one echo chamber or another.Arnoxthe1 said:
But then, control speech at least somewhat doesn't do that much better.
I hope the communication keeps up. Unfortunately another thing this forum has seen a lot of is the new guy(s) coming in, promising more communication, doing so and being approachable and answering questions for maybe a thread or two, then vanishing and leaving the users here in the dark again. These promises are very rarely followed through on and I would encourage our latest overlords to make a very conscious effort to do so as apparently these forums are a very easy thing to forget about when other metaphorical fires need to be put out
I admit I am hopeful for this latest new direction. Unlike some of the previous ones, which tended to range between "these good intentions are going to backfire" and "are they actively trying to end this site?" this actually sounds promising. Though unlike those previous ones the history of a lack of follow through is no longer a comfort.
One suggestion I have for strengthening the community, though I hesitate to make it for it can be prone to abuse, is more frequent but softer touches from the mods or warning warnings for a lack of a better term. In the past I've generally appreciated the times a mod has stepped in to tell people to cool it or to get back on topic when discussion starts to get heated. This lets us know the moderators are indeed actually watching, can give us a sense of who the mods are, generally keeps discussions less toxic, and can prevent long time user permabans from the kreeping accumulation of actual warnings.
Currently we rarely hear from the mods and warnings are handed out silently. This can be especially frustrating because the kinds of posts that usually get warnings these days don't just come out of the blue, but are the product of an escalating path of discussion that could be defused without official warnings or suspensions by a simple "hey guys, things are starting to get pretty heated. Remember to be respectful or warnings will follow" post from a mod. This can also help old and new users alike(when's the last time we got one of those? ) figure out where the line is for acceptable behavior where the CoC is vague or subjective. As long as this isn't abused by mods to reach beyond the CoC to try to mold the forums to their own biases and opinions and silence those people or topics they dislike, I think this could go a long way to making the community healthier and more welcoming to new users
One suggestion I have for strengthening the community, though I hesitate to make it for it can be prone to abuse, is more frequent but softer touches from the mods or warning warnings for a lack of a better term. In the past I've generally appreciated the times a mod has stepped in to tell people to cool it or to get back on topic when discussion starts to get heated. This lets us know the moderators are indeed actually watching, can give us a sense of who the mods are, generally keeps discussions less toxic, and can prevent long time user permabans from the kreeping accumulation of actual warnings.
Currently we rarely hear from the mods and warnings are handed out silently. This can be especially frustrating because the kinds of posts that usually get warnings these days don't just come out of the blue, but are the product of an escalating path of discussion that could be defused without official warnings or suspensions by a simple "hey guys, things are starting to get pretty heated. Remember to be respectful or warnings will follow" post from a mod. This can also help old and new users alike(when's the last time we got one of those? ) figure out where the line is for acceptable behavior where the CoC is vague or subjective. As long as this isn't abused by mods to reach beyond the CoC to try to mold the forums to their own biases and opinions and silence those people or topics they dislike, I think this could go a long way to making the community healthier and more welcoming to new users
Alright then.Nick Calandra said:
I think you're overthinking this. If we said, "Say what you want. You won't get punished." but then we start punishing people for that somehow, then yeah, Sanctuary would be pretending to have free speech, but that has never happened, and I've made VERY sure that that doesn't happen.trunkage said:
