WarpZone said:
I'm sorry, but you guys are way over-analyzing something that's not that hard to figure out. People like a happy ending. This isn't rocket science. Hollywood figured this out decades ago.
BAM: http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2012/03/16 There's your in-depth analysis.
I found the comic hilarious, especially the last panel. I can't help but read it in Wrex's voice.
That said, it isn't an in depth analysis. Penny Arcade lampoons game industry news for laughs, and this was the funniest jab they could make on the issue--not the most accurate.
People aren't bitching because they wanted MORE choices. They are bitching because no matter what they do in the game, they get a downer ending.
"People," "they," etc are the operative words here. There certainly are people who are complaining about getting a "downer" ending. And there a lot of other people who have a lot of other complaints. For instance, my main reason for disliking the ending isn't that it was sad or that I didn't have enough choices, it was that all of my choices ultimately destroy the Universe of Mass Effect as it had existed up until the end of ME3. None of the options preserve or improve the status quo as it existed prior to the war with the Reapers---the status quo which I had just spent three games trying to defend, and most of Mass Effect 3 I spent improving (ending the war with the Quarians/Geth, saving the Krogan, etc).
My impression is that you either aren't reading what other people have said, or you're ignoring what other people have said, or you're assuming they're lying to you when they list other reasons.
I don't think you can generalize one set of complaints to the tens of thousands who have complained about the ending online, especially when there's no way for any of us to collect a representative sample of those complaints.
I get that you didn't want to spoil anything for Steve, but going on and on about "player agency" in the middle of the podcast is simply dishonest. It creates the impression that you believe that people are complaining because the story converged. They're not. They're complaining because the story converged in a direction they didn't want it to go, and they had no ability to avert it.
So.... are they complaining about the story converging, or aren't they? First you say its inaccurate to claim, "that people are complaining because the story converged." Then, you say, "They're complaining because the story converged..."
Anyway, using your words, how is complaining about the ending to a series (where player agency and control are the hallmark feature) ending in a way where the story converges in a way beyond player control
NOT a complaint about player agency and control?
Also how is it dishonest to create "the impression that
you believe that people are complaining because the story converged?" Stating that you believe something because of "X" is not dishonest. Stating that something is
objectively so because of "Y," where "Y" is untrue or a misrepresentation, is dishonest.
An example of actual dishonesty is saying that all players are complaining simply because of the downer ending.