ESRB to Valve: Mind Your Fingers - UPDATED
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First of all, I'll get right off and say I couldn't give less of a shit about "graphic imagery" on covers. People need to grow up quite a lot. "ZOMFG MY CHILD MIGHT WALK IN FRONT OF THE BOX AND SEE A HAND WITH MISSING FIGNERS AND I MIGHT HAVE TO SPEND A MINUTE TALKING TO HIM/HER! THE HORROR!". That said, even if you do, L4D was marketed with the exact same cover, but with more fingers... OH SHIT! THIS ONE HAS 2 EXTRA FINGERS BITTEN OFF! IT IS SO MUCH MOAR GRAPHICAL AND HORRIBLE! FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!! THE CHILDREN!!!Megacherv said:
Really... And don't give me the "IZ A BAD SIGN!" bullshit. It's a mildly-bad sign in England, and only so due to general ignorance. It's the number 2, and the peace sign... Yet some dumbfucks used it as an insult half a million years ago (yes, hyperbole), so now it's an insult forever! Ignorance is not ok, and should not be allowed to live on.
I meant why do the costumer's and/or retailers give a toss. And it shouldn't provide a "recommended" age at all, just a description of the content. Any age "recommended" will always be arbitrary.vivaldiscool said:
Good example of it: Difference between "mature" and "adults only". What's the difference? Isn't maturity what separates adults from children?
ESRB, Those people need a real job. Shoveling manure would be right up their alley. Who the bloody hell cares if one finger or 3 are gnawed off? Christians? HA! People with so called values are just as twisted as the rest of us. Anyone saying otherwise is lying to themselves. Or emotionally dead... or trying to sell something.
In England giving someone two fingers up is not considered a sign of peace, quite the opposite in fact, it carries the same meaning as the middle finger does in America.Maraveno said:
Dude...calm down...and it's more than mildly offensive. It's not the peace sign, the peace sign is showing the palm to the person with those two fingers showing up.Caliostro said:
Again, as I said before, it's nothing much to get worked up about. People seem to fly into a mad rage at the slightest thing. Valve easily has the ability to just change one of the fingers, they shouldn't be that bothered about it.
I thought that they would be more worried about Dead Space's cover, what with the dismembered arm floating around with globules of blood in space.
Seriously...
But 2 fingers that look like they've been chewed off? Bannitbannitbannitbannitbannit etc.
Seriously...
But 2 fingers that look like they've been chewed off? Bannitbannitbannitbannitbannit etc.
Megacherv said:
You're right, it's not mildly offensive. It's not even mildly offensive. It's a number 2... Dear god, the horror! You know how it was first used as an insult? By British archers against the french, showing them they still had their "bow fingers" intact. I'm sure the story has been posted several times so if you're interested search.
Also, has stated several times throughout this thread, it wasn't over a mildly-offensive-to-ignorant-people-only-from-the-UK sign, but apparently due to the "percentage" of hand destroyed, which is just as ridiculous. It is something to get worked up about, it's a private organization overstepping it's boundaries.
Question, how does the ESRB decide what is okay? Is it like a triumvirate of the most ethical people in the land, or like do they get proper gentlemen and show them things, and rate it depending on the amount of tea spilled? I'm confused, did we vote them in?
Why is it okay that the thumb, quite possibly the most useful thing next to the wheel, is chewed off but the pinky and ring finger must be protected from the gnashing teeth of ravening zombie hordes?
The original looks like whoever bit off the thumb got hungry and came back for seconds... And thirds.
Even if the fingers bent poster looks better (and I'm definitely not saying it does) at this point it's more a matter of the ESRB being stupid than it is about which is a better marketing tool. The game is marketed to older teens and adults, not 5-year-olds. I think the advertising should reflect that.
The original looks like whoever bit off the thumb got hungry and came back for seconds... And thirds.
Even if the fingers bent poster looks better (and I'm definitely not saying it does) at this point it's more a matter of the ESRB being stupid than it is about which is a better marketing tool. The game is marketed to older teens and adults, not 5-year-olds. I think the advertising should reflect that.
There is a story behind that,not sure if its true.Malygris said:
I think it was during the many times the English fought the French not sure which side it was but if they caught an archer they would cut those two fingers off(the two you would use to draw the bowstring)and than they would taunt them by holding up their two fingers as in "Nah nah,looky what I got".
Possibly untrue,but quite interesting.
