EVE Online Geniuses Blow Up Six Years of Game Time

teh_v

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Andy Chalk said:
versoth said:
it might be better next time to do a quick Google search for loot drop rules in EVE.
... seriously? You want me to learn about loot drop rules in EVE so I can be sure I'm zinging the right people?

Keep making suggestions like that and I'll start making fun of you.

Most of us don't play EVE and we're not sufficiently interested to care about how things specifically work or who is responsible for one particular kind of silliness or another. From an outsider's perspective, these guys took a shot at a shitload of PLEX (I just about called it FLEX again) and came out with the short end of the stick. Maybe it's not entirely their fault but it's an amusing story and the "nice shooting" is nothing more than an amusing zing to cap it off.

I actually appreciate you explaining to everyone how it works because my assumption was that they just blew it. And I think that's pretty typical of EVE, there's always so much intrigue taking place that things are rarely as simple as they seem.
Is it just me or should a reporter do research before he post a story. I mean if I was asked to do a story on bass fishing, something I know nothing about, I would make sure to run the story by someone who, I don't know, GOES BASS FISHING. That way I wouldn't look like an idiot if I missed a word or completely miss understood a concept in bass fishing.

Don't get mad at your readers when they corrected you. A good reporter either A.) researches to the point where he's not getting corrected over easy to prove FACTS or if he can't be bothered to do that simple task does B instead, acknowledges a mistake and prints a correction. He doesn't get snippy at his readers. I don't know if your trying to be a full time reporter or if this is just a part time gig to kill time either way don't be so such an amateur.
 

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Sorry.. but in EVE, if you are stupid enough to sit in Jita, alone, and not paying attention with 22 billion isk sitting on board then you pretty much were asking for it. He might even have set a record for the most cargo lost in one shot.

Kestrals' not a paticularly safe ship to keep it in anyway... pillock
 

cheftacular

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I don't even know how to express how awesome this is. The English language lacks the words. This whole thing is beyond incredible. Whether or not Andy didn't "do enough research" is beside the point. This is a hilarious story. I definitely want to play EVE based solely on this article. I don't care if it's boring, the fun of griefing people will be worth it.

By the way, I fully support this idea -
Andy Chalk said:
Keep making suggestions like that and I'll start making fun of you.
 

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Atmos Duality said:
Really?
This is beyond pathetic. When you can lose upwards of 10 dollars (never mind 1200) of real money to gameplay mechanics, you have officially crossed the line into "REALLY STUPID GAME".
If that happened to me, I'd fucking sue.
nobody makes them play the game. you choose to play the game, you gotta accept the baggage that it entails. if they enjoy it, let them be. if you dont like it, dont play it.

also, there would be no lawsuit possible seeing as they chose to play the game and to do this action knowing full and well what could happen. threatening to sue just because things dont go your way is just stupid. you can't go to a casino, lose all of your money, and then sue them for you losing it.


OT: this is so awesome that i want to sign up right now.
 

Indignation837

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HA! That's awesome... but it serves them right for leaving a ship carrying 74 PLEX alone in a system like Jita (for those who don't know, it's a system that's pretty much THE central trade hub for the entire galaxy... hence lots of pirates like to hang out there too).
 

Atmos Duality

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oxiclean said:
Atmos Duality said:
Really?
This is beyond pathetic. When you can lose upwards of 10 dollars (never mind 1200) of real money to gameplay mechanics, you have officially crossed the line into "REALLY STUPID GAME".
If that happened to me, I'd fucking sue.
nobody makes them play the game. you choose to play the game, you gotta accept the baggage that it entails. if they enjoy it, let them be. if you dont like it, dont play it.
Sigh. Please don't lecture me on the virtues of "opinions, me like, me don't like". It's not an argument nor is it effective. Furthermore, it's not the point I was trying to make here.

also, there would be no lawsuit possible seeing as they chose to play the game and to do this action knowing full and well what could happen. threatening to sue just because things dont go your way is just stupid. you can't go to a casino, lose all of your money, and then sue them for you losing it.
You realize that you just equated an MMORPG to a game of chance, right?
This isn't about the usual wishy-washy "like it/hate it" argument, it's the fact that you can lose real money in a game that is not supposed to involve gambling.
 

RobfromtheGulag

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Looking at this from the outside in (as a non-EVE player) this seems horrendous. I'm betting however that if I were a player it'd be a little less noteworthy. Perhaps the PLX is dupe-able or somesuch.

Anyway, interesting news either way.
 

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Atmos Duality said:
Really?
This is beyond pathetic. When you can lose upwards of 10 dollars (never mind 1200) of real money to gameplay mechanics, you have officially crossed the line into "REALLY STUPID GAME".
If that happened to me, I'd fucking sue.
HTFU.
This person should have known the risks, ignorance is not a defence. It's all the in terms of service for EvE.

As an eve player i do find it incredible that a player would willingly undock, in wartime, in a suicide-gank-fest system, there's something more going on here.
 

NoseDigger

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Ah yes. Some people are just idiots. I read somewhere the killers didnt even know he had the PLEX on him, and only noticed when the killmail counted the total lost ISK to 22b
 

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This makes me really intrigued in the game now, to see such subterfuge and real world consequence. It's like a giant social experiment... I've heard that phrase being used to describe the game before, but damn...
 

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This is why I love EVE. It's a game where stupidity and putting all your eggs in one basket can really hurt, just like it should. The risks are huge, but that makes the rewards all the sweeter.
 

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That's a nice $1295 for CCP with no services rendered.

I can see why they made game time a cargo item.
 

Hawgh

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Daaaaaaaayemn

What the hell was he doing transporting all that without an escort.

And isn't a Kestrel pretty much the weakest thing in the game?
 

The Journey

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Really?
This is beyond pathetic. When you can lose upwards of 10 dollars (never mind 1200) of real money to gameplay mechanics, you have officially crossed the line into "REALLY STUPID GAME".
If that happened to me, I'd fucking sue.
Now, I'd love to give you a good backhand for thick-headed commenting here.

You pay, as per the agreement that is presented to you when you purchase anything to do with online services, never mind MMO's or EVE and my going forward with the purchase you agree to all the terms and conditions of use.

Secondly, those PLEX don't NEED to be transported, for gods sake. You buy them and sell them in game. If you sell one, you leave it in the station you sold it for the buyer to pick up. If you buy one, you go to the station it was sold in to pick it up. Then you either redeem it for game-time or you sell it again.

Here's a comparison: You are driving down the road with a dead body of your significant other who has a life insurance policy in the millions in the trunk. You see a police station right next to a gas station. Now you are both out of gas and noticeably suspicious due to the bloody hand hanging out of your car. So, cheerily you decide to get some gas and while you're paying for it the Police come and shoot your stupid arse.

Yes it's nonsensical but it gets the point across.

Why in the world anyone would need to transport one, let alone that much gross capital in the hull of such a stupidly weak ship is beyond me and has the stamp of 'more to it than meets the eye', that's for sure.