Wait so are you saying, this guy undocked with his ENEMIES Plex, and ANOTHER Enemy destroyed that plex? Or..Widdershins said:Confirming I was on voice comms in a different channel when this went down.
Hilarious spin on this. It wasn't their PLEX, it belonged to their enemies, and it's better off destroyed than belonging to them. That's how it goes.
It isn't bad on the developer side because CCP loses nothing in that. Quite possibly that Plex wasn't bought with real money, so the only thing lost was time and effort.Jaredin said:Oh god...I would be soooo angry!
...But, thats such a bad way to do things, developer side...why would they put something like that at risk so easilly...I...I would be talking to some GM about it, but, I bet it will be a less than Luke warm reception
Excellent, that would taste as sweet as when you do catch ISK-sellers' ships out in the open. They don't spend money on weapons or ammo for their ships so it is just a turkey shoot, and very expensive loss for the isk-sellers.(Though they are very slippery buggers)Widdershins said:Confirming I was on voice comms in a different channel when this went down.
Hilarious spin on this. It wasn't their PLEX, it belonged to their enemies, and it's better off destroyed than belonging to them. That's how it goes.
How sweet the irony.Ice Storm said:Why do I have a sneaking suspicion that the pilot who held the PLEX purposefully used a weak ship and a ganking area? Possible revenge? Betrayal to join the other corp? Who knows, it just seems unlikely someone would do something that stupid if they had that sort of cargo unless it was for another purpose. (And wouldn't take make a nice twist?)
It's a tactic used before. If you can't destroy the fortress that holds a special secret super weapon or item, you raid the fortress and steal the item. Then you can just leave it out in the open for some bloodthirsty barbarian to come along and do the job for you. You lose one tiny little ship which you probably had insurance on anyway. Not to mention the part where you can look all innocent with plausible deniability.TsunamiWombat said:Wait so are you saying, this guy undocked with his ENEMIES Plex, and ANOTHER Enemy destroyed that plex? Or..Widdershins said:Confirming I was on voice comms in a different channel when this went down.
Hilarious spin on this. It wasn't their PLEX, it belonged to their enemies, and it's better off destroyed than belonging to them. That's how it goes.
Eve makes my brain hurt.
And that's when I guessed the ending. That kind of blows. I mean, $1295? Damn.Andy Chalk said:EVE Online Geniuses Blow Up Six Years of Game Time
But last month the company made some changes to PLEX, making it an actual in-game item that can be transported as cargo.
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You have no idea how valuable those items were in-game, don't you?DeathSnipa1992 said:its just in game money used to buy playtimeOptimystic said:I have to agree, this is ridiculous. If the owner of that PLEX or Isk or space dollars or whatever keeps playing after this, then he's a shoe-in for the Darwin Awards.Asehujiko said:So basically a griefer can now directly attack your playtime? That's a fucking retarded concept.
Because EVE isn't Vegas, losing $1295is a few minutes isn't what you sign up to do.PxDn Ninja said:Why should they?Cody211282 said:Are hey going to be getting their money back for that?
yes i know its valuable, but even still, u can buy it with in game money chich is all i was sayingTharwen said:You have no idea how valuable those items were in-game, don't you?DeathSnipa1992 said:its just in game money used to buy playtimeOptimystic said:I have to agree, this is ridiculous. If the owner of that PLEX or Isk or space dollars or whatever keeps playing after this, then he's a shoe-in for the Darwin Awards.Asehujiko said:So basically a griefer can now directly attack your playtime? That's a fucking retarded concept.
Nope, but no rule was broken, no system was exploited, and no player cheated or did anything outside of the rules of the system. The lose was caused by a player making a stupid decision with a valuable in game item.Cody211282 said:Because EVE isn't Vegas, losing $1295is a few minutes isn't what you sign up to do.PxDn Ninja said:Why should they?Cody211282 said:Are hey going to be getting their money back for that?
I'm so lost on what you just tried to say, something tells me I need to play the game before commenting anymore on it.PxDn Ninja said:Nope, but no rule was broken, no system was exploited, and no player cheated or did anything outside of the rules of the system. The lose was caused by a player making a stupid decision with a valuable in game item.Cody211282 said:Because EVE isn't Vegas, losing $1295is a few minutes isn't what you sign up to do.PxDn Ninja said:Why should they?Cody211282 said:Are hey going to be getting their money back for that?
If I undock with my Freighter in Jita while war-dec'ed and get destroyed with a hold full of T2 Battleship, losing billions of ISK in the process, they wouldn't refund me. It is the exact same thing here. Both can be directly converted to real world money, so not even saying that the PLEX has real world value is a valid excuse.
Basically, this dude (apparently the leader of an Alliance) headed to a space port alone, in a common or garden spaceship, in an area notorious for folks attacking and blowing up spaceships, with 73 months worth of game time in the hold. I understand the reason is because that particular space port was paying slightly more for the game time (emphisis on the "slightly", apparently less than 0.5%). Two folks in proper battleships spotted him, scanned him, realised he was a) their enemy, whom their Alliance was at war with and b) had a hell of a lot of in-game money equivilant on that ship, and proceded to blow him up. The Random Number God decreed that the game time stack would be destroyed, and so 22 billion's worth of in-game money equivilant got blown up.Cody211282 said:I'm so lost on what you just tried to say, something tells me I need to play the game before commenting anymore on it.PxDn Ninja said:Nope, but no rule was broken, no system was exploited, and no player cheated or did anything outside of the rules of the system. The lose was caused by a player making a stupid decision with a valuable in game item.Cody211282 said:Because EVE isn't Vegas, losing $1295is a few minutes isn't what you sign up to do.PxDn Ninja said:Why should they?Cody211282 said:Are hey going to be getting their money back for that?
If I undock with my Freighter in Jita while war-dec'ed and get destroyed with a hold full of T2 Battleship, losing billions of ISK in the process, they wouldn't refund me. It is the exact same thing here. Both can be directly converted to real world money, so not even saying that the PLEX has real world value is a valid excuse.
Ah ok, still something tells me I'm going to have to play the game at some point, feels like I'm missing out on killing pirates.Delusibeta said:Basically, this dude (apparently the leader of an Alliance) headed to a space port alone, in a common or garden spaceship, in an area notorious for folks attacking and blowing up spaceships, with 73 months worth of game time in the hold. I understand the reason is because that particular space port was paying slightly more for the game time (emphisis on the "slightly", apparently less than 0.5%). Two folks in proper battleships spotted him, scanned him, realised he was a) their enemy, whom their Alliance was at war with and b) had a hell of a lot of in-game money equivilant on that ship, and proceded to blow him up. The Random Number God decreed that the game time stack would be destroyed, and so 22 billion's worth of in-game money equivilant got blown up.Cody211282 said:I'm so lost on what you just tried to say, something tells me I need to play the game before commenting anymore on it.PxDn Ninja said:Nope, but no rule was broken, no system was exploited, and no player cheated or did anything outside of the rules of the system. The lose was caused by a player making a stupid decision with a valuable in game item.Cody211282 said:Because EVE isn't Vegas, losing $1295is a few minutes isn't what you sign up to do.PxDn Ninja said:Why should they?Cody211282 said:Are hey going to be getting their money back for that?
If I undock with my Freighter in Jita while war-dec'ed and get destroyed with a hold full of T2 Battleship, losing billions of ISK in the process, they wouldn't refund me. It is the exact same thing here. Both can be directly converted to real world money, so not even saying that the PLEX has real world value is a valid excuse.
As I understand it, the game time was bought by that Alliance leader using in-game currency, as such no-one other than that Alliance leader lost out, and that while CCP now has $1,300 worth of game time they don't have to honour, I don't think anyone lost actual physical greenbacks over this. Just that his Alliance will probably break up faster than you can say "iceberg". (Apparently, he's blown their entire in-game bank account over this)