EvE Online Starbase Exploit

[Incompl te]

Why should people get punished for exploiting a failure by the makers of the game?

TOS and EULA. Exploits = Bannage

I cant understand or accept that, but being somone who does not play MMOG, i suppose i never will.

So you are thinking that....Agreeing not to do something "illegal" under the games laws but doing it anyway isn't bad?

That's basically like Hacking Counter Strike.

Theres a difference between exploitation and outright cheating. If there was a bug that littered the galaxy with high grade ships on sale for free would you ban anyone who bought one? In my view theres a massive difference to a unfair advantage purposly created by a player, and an unfair advantage that comes as a result of a bug. Both should be ironed out - yes, but banning people for the latter is not exactly justice in my opinion.

It is effectivley cheating. They were making so much money off it, messing up what the economy used to be.

i wouldn't call it cheating if they didn't hack into the system to get it. Its more like using the problem to their advantage.

You're free to use loopholes as they're not technically illegal. A programmers error should be blamed on the programmer not the player/s that use the error to gain a profit

 

[Helnurath]

Bellum Machina, We are small for the moment. We are working on getting our industrial backing up and running.

 

[smallharmlesskitten]

Bellum Machina, We are small for the moment. We are working on getting our industrial backing up and running.

Where do you run?

I am in Core Element (COREE) and we are part of The Entity Alliance (NTT) for at least another month

 

[Helnurath]

Ichunmi and Komo, We are sticking to empire space till most of us have our warships.

 

[smallharmlesskitten]

Ichunmi and Komo, We are sticking to empire space till most of us have our warships.

Heh. Mamouna for me right now (system of course). Low Sec ftw and I'm only in a Rifter. I do need some 0.0 to be truly effective with my specialisation. 3000 m/s ftw

 

[Helnurath]

Ichunmi and Komo, We are sticking to empire space till most of us have our warships.

Heh. Mamouna for me right now (system of course). Low Sec ftw and I'm only in a Rifter. I do need some 0.0 to be truly effective with my specialisation. 3000 m/s ftw

Speed tank? Nice. Rifters are pretty fast. They can outrun my Caracal pretty well.

 

[smallharmlesskitten]

Ichunmi and Komo, We are sticking to empire space till most of us have our warships.

Heh. Mamouna for me right now (system of course). Low Sec ftw and I'm only in a Rifter. I do need some 0.0 to be truly effective with my specialisation. 3000 m/s ftw

Speed tank? Nice. Rifters are pretty fast. They can outrun my Caracal pretty well.

Speed tanked right now yes. But I am a small ship specialist. I have no interest in large ships. I only touch my hoarder (which I stole from someone who ejected it and left it at a POS we destroyed) for transport.

 

[YukoValis]

it's really simple. In the real world you commit a crime and you go to jail. In the fantasy game world you commit a crime and you get banned. So it all ends well.

 

[smallharmlesskitten]

Lemme post my Current Fit

2 x 150 MM autocannons I
1 x 250 MM artillery cannon I
1 x Malkuth Missile Launcher I

1 x MWD I
1 x Webifier, Shield Booster or Warp Scrambler I
1 x Capacitor Booster with 100's attached I

1 x Nanofiber I
1 x Overdrive II
1 x Intertia stabiliser II

Goes fast

 

[Helnurath]

Ichunmi and Komo, We are sticking to empire space till most of us have our warships.

Heh. Mamouna for me right now (system of course). Low Sec ftw and I'm only in a Rifter. I do need some 0.0 to be truly effective with my specialisation. 3000 m/s ftw

Speed tank? Nice. Rifters are pretty fast. They can outrun my Caracal pretty well.

Speed tanked right now yes. But I am a small ship specialist. I have no interest in large ships. I only touch my hoarder (which I stole from someone who ejected it and left it at a POS we destroyed) for transport.

haha! Nice! You guys got good siege ships?

Once I get my all of my indy skills trained I'll probably go with a Hawk or a Harpy. Have notdecided whether to go missiles or guns.

 

[smallharmlesskitten]

it's really simple. In the real world you commit a crime and you go to jail. In the fantasy game world you commit a crime and you get banned. So it all ends well.

Pretty much that. And remember kid's the Police don't provide protection in this game. They provide consequences

 

[smallharmlesskitten]

Ichunmi and Komo, We are sticking to empire space till most of us have our warships.

Heh. Mamouna for me right now (system of course). Low Sec ftw and I'm only in a Rifter. I do need some 0.0 to be truly effective with my specialisation. 3000 m/s ftw

Speed tank? Nice. Rifters are pretty fast. They can outrun my Caracal pretty well.

Speed tanked right now yes. But I am a small ship specialist. I have no interest in large ships. I only touch my hoarder (which I stole from someone who ejected it and left it at a POS we destroyed) for transport.

haha! Nice! You guys got good siege ships?

Once I get my all of my indy skills trained I'll probably go with a Hawk or a Harpy. Have notdecided whether to go missiles or guns.

BattleShips, battle Cruisers, carriers.. we had about 30 people hammering away at the thing. We didn't have anything with seige mode though.

 

[Helnurath]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Shield Recharger II
Invulnerability Field II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II

'Malkuth' Heavy Missile Launcher I, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
'Malkuth' Heavy Missile Launcher I, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
'Malkuth' Heavy Missile Launcher I, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
'Malkuth' Heavy Missile Launcher I, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
'Malkuth' Heavy Missile Launcher I, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile

Core Defence Field Purger I
Core Defence Field Purger I
Core Defence Field Purger I

This is what I have on my Caracal at the moment.

 

[smallharmlesskitten]

carcal missle boat fit

whats the Blast radius of those and how fast does the blast radius move?

I believe with enough of my ships (about 10) you will get fucked up

 

[Helnurath]

it's really simple. In the real world you commit a crime and you go to jail. In the fantasy game world you commit a crime and you get banned. So it all ends well.

Pretty much that. And remember kid's the Police don't provide protection in this game. They provide consequences

There are ways around that I had a friend use the cargo can bait trap to get this Rokh fitted with mining lasers to flag. He was in some kind of Amarrian battleship, took him a bit to get him, but he did

 

[Canebrake]

I think people should be punished for exploiting bugs,and harshly at that.

Yes it's the developers fualt it's a bug but who's fualt is it that you exploited it?
There will always be bugs,and there will always be people that are using methods that hurt the market through these.

But don't think market. think gamers time that they spent trying to make a in-game buck.
Is it fair to them?

it just ruins the game for everyone else. Just like any kind of exploit be it hackers, loopholes or glitchers.

 

[Helnurath]

carcal missle boat fit

whats the Blast radius of those and how fast does the blast radius move?

I believe with enough of my ships (about 10) you will get fucked up

Its more for mission running. Gotta be able to survive them missions that pit you up against 15 or more ships

This is my PVP ship.
On a Hawk

Overdrive Injector System II
Ballistic Control System II

Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II
Small Capacitor Booster II
Faint Warp Disruptor I
Gistii B-Type Small Shield Booster

Standard Missile Launcher II
Standard Missile Launcher II
Standard Missile Launcher II
Standard Missile Launcher II
Empty

Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I

 

[Helnurath]

These days it really isnt worth investing in a huge ship unless you have support. A small gang of well fitted frigates can do pretty well.

 

[Zer_]

I used to have an active EVE account.

I had a good selection of ships mostly for PVE combat in medium sec space.

I had 2 BattleCruisers:

Hurricane and Cyclone. Both were artillery boats with armor tanking capabilities.

I had 2 BattleShips:

Maelstrom and Typhoon. The typhoon was my torpedo boat, while my Maelstrom would lay down some heavy artillery fire. Both had armor tanking capabilities as well.

I had 1 Cruiser:

The Stabber. Short range auto-cannon set up for anti-frigate combat.

I had 2 Frigates:

Tech 2 Rifter. Mostly equipped with weapons. This would have been my PVP frigate, although I quit the game before I could finish the Tech 2 setup.

I also had a Slasher. This baby was fast, I remember reaching up to 2500m/s.

I had 1 industrial ship:

The Hoarder. I made my money off of this ship.


After I quit, I gave my account away to a good friend of mine. He essentially acquired 500m ISKs along with well over a Billion ISKs worth of ships and systems.

 

[TrevorOfCrete]

it's really simple. In the real world you commit a crime and you go to jail. In the fantasy game world you commit a crime and you get banned. So it all ends well.

Pretty much that. And remember kid's the Police don't provide protection in this game. They provide consequences

I suppose put that way it is justifable in terms of role-play, the guilty have been erased for economic crimes!!!! Let me ask you somthing, have the players been banned from eve altogether or simply the characters in question erased?