Ex-Tory Leader Attacks Games
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Y'know for a Tory he actually speaks some sense, it's completely wrong that the 18 label on games is ignored nowadays, 12 year olds with utterly retarded parents end up playing things which they really shouldnt be allowed to view.
Did no-one else actually READ the op?dreadedcandiru99 said:
I imagine he feel asleep before getting that far; I.D Smith has that effect on people even in print - its like magic! 5 minutes of listening to him talking and you fall into a deep sleep - 10 minutes is a coma danger... more than that, and the odds of surviving are low.Gruchul said:
One more reason not to vote Tory.
The problem isn't the games, it's morons buying the games for kids.
Whilst I think a kid tends to be better with two parents than one, I feel putting the blame on single parents for the problems with kids today is pointless, sloppy and not 100% accurate simplification of the causes of such problems.
The problem isn't the games, it's morons buying the games for kids.
Whilst I think a kid tends to be better with two parents than one, I feel putting the blame on single parents for the problems with kids today is pointless, sloppy and not 100% accurate simplification of the causes of such problems.
The guys who make Grand Theft Auto abuse labour laws! OMG KEEL DEM ALL AND DEN BLAME IT ON TEH GAMERZ!!!SirBryghtside said:
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ah well, just a bigoted twat who doesnt like young people and their hippity-hop music.
you know what? i'm just wanna say that there is SOME truth in what anti-video game activists are saying. While yes, video games are just harmless fun, they are time consuming, using up time that kids should be using to study or go outside. and while they are not corrupting our children in to murdering machines, they are desensitizing them to violence. Obviously, we shouldn't place blame on video games, the blame should be re-directed towards the parents, for not "looking at the label" and for not placing strict rules for how long there child should play games. While you all have every right to be angry at video games constantly being a scapegoat, I don't find it right that see these people as total fools.qbanknight said:
wow man, you sure do hate the right dontcha O.OWorgen said:
I hate IDS as much as the next Brit, but not for the quote in the OP.
Anyway, David Cameron is trying to be so "down with the kids" that I think the Tories will leave video games very much alone if they get into power. You know, with a recession to climb out of and everything...
Anyway, David Cameron is trying to be so "down with the kids" that I think the Tories will leave video games very much alone if they get into power. You know, with a recession to climb out of and everything...
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He actually thinks he actually matters?
Mr. Duncan Smith? YOU ACHIEVED NOTHING. The guy before you was Prime Minister, the guy after you is busy reforming the party to give them a chance of making government again (which while I disagree with him as a person and a party, is admirable (yes, I complimented Mr. Cameron, don't tell anyone)
But YOU, Mr. Smith? YOU DID NOTHING. There is not a single THING you did, ever, that affected the party
Do you know, until I read about you briefly on wikipedia, I had no idea there was a leader between Sergeant and Cameron.
Your opinion is void
He actually thinks he actually matters?
Mr. Duncan Smith? YOU ACHIEVED NOTHING. The guy before you was Prime Minister, the guy after you is busy reforming the party to give them a chance of making government again (which while I disagree with him as a person and a party, is admirable (yes, I complimented Mr. Cameron, don't tell anyone)
But YOU, Mr. Smith? YOU DID NOTHING. There is not a single THING you did, ever, that affected the party
Do you know, until I read about you briefly on wikipedia, I had no idea there was a leader between Sergeant and Cameron.
Your opinion is void
He's right in a lot of ways. He's right in the same ways that Atkinson is right (and trust me, they're right about SOME of their ideas).
What they're right about is, kids shouldn't be playing Grand Theft Auto.. Or RapeLay (seriously atkinson? I digress..) They're also right that most parents ignore the labels instead choosing to sate their children's screams. It's something they can control in a world of things that make their kids cry for things.
What they're very wrong about is how to deal with the situation.. You don't do it by parenting for the children (especially if it means parenting for those of us that are of age).. The games industry doesn't want Mature games in the hands of kids. Talking about kids in relation to Mature games shouldn't even be a conversation. You can talk about parents though.
I think another thing they're overlooking is that MAYBE, just MAYBE, those parents know what they're doing with their kids. If they're going into it educated, and know what Rated M for Mature means, and still choose to buy it for their kids, then that's really none of their business. Unless there is ever proof that buying M Rated games for your kids is a type of Child Abuse (read: It's not), then there's nothing you can do.
The best you can do is educate parents, and we as gamers need to take some of that responsibility onto ourselves. If you ever see a parent struggling in the game section of the store, approach them kindly, and give them a hand. If you ever see a parent with a kid begging for an M rated game, kindly approach them, and ask them if you can explain the rating system to them. Don't be judgmental though, if they truly don't care, it isn't your job to parent their kids.
That's what these politicians need to learn. Especially in democratic countries, it's not your job to parent people's kids.
What they're right about is, kids shouldn't be playing Grand Theft Auto.. Or RapeLay (seriously atkinson? I digress..) They're also right that most parents ignore the labels instead choosing to sate their children's screams. It's something they can control in a world of things that make their kids cry for things.
What they're very wrong about is how to deal with the situation.. You don't do it by parenting for the children (especially if it means parenting for those of us that are of age).. The games industry doesn't want Mature games in the hands of kids. Talking about kids in relation to Mature games shouldn't even be a conversation. You can talk about parents though.
I think another thing they're overlooking is that MAYBE, just MAYBE, those parents know what they're doing with their kids. If they're going into it educated, and know what Rated M for Mature means, and still choose to buy it for their kids, then that's really none of their business. Unless there is ever proof that buying M Rated games for your kids is a type of Child Abuse (read: It's not), then there's nothing you can do.
The best you can do is educate parents, and we as gamers need to take some of that responsibility onto ourselves. If you ever see a parent struggling in the game section of the store, approach them kindly, and give them a hand. If you ever see a parent with a kid begging for an M rated game, kindly approach them, and ask them if you can explain the rating system to them. Don't be judgmental though, if they truly don't care, it isn't your job to parent their kids.
That's what these politicians need to learn. Especially in democratic countries, it's not your job to parent people's kids.
What hes saying whether he realises or not is actually bad Parenting is to blame
"They are meant to be 18 but nobody cares what it says on the label." IE parents buying their kids whatever they want despite the rating.
"They are meant to be 18 but nobody cares what it says on the label." IE parents buying their kids whatever they want despite the rating.
Lolz, that guy was totally irrelevant while he was Tory leader and it won't be much different when the tories are elected.
Politicians like to come out with crap like that but they never actually go so far as doing anything about it. I really would like to know where all this cencorship that people like this
One politician says 18 rated games getting into the hands of kids is a bad thing and suddenly we're all oppressed and don't have freedom of expression? Please, try commenting on things you actually have experience of in future instead of screeching about FREEEDOMZZZZ!! the second you hear someone say something negative about a subject.
Read the original article, it is two sentences in an entire interview, talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill.
Politicians like to come out with crap like that but they never actually go so far as doing anything about it. I really would like to know where all this cencorship that people like this
go on about.Nurb said:
One politician says 18 rated games getting into the hands of kids is a bad thing and suddenly we're all oppressed and don't have freedom of expression? Please, try commenting on things you actually have experience of in future instead of screeching about FREEEDOMZZZZ!! the second you hear someone say something negative about a subject.
Read the original article, it is two sentences in an entire interview, talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill.
This.Demented Teddy said:
Once the mothballs are dead and out of the Governmental closet, people who understand game media will be in positions of power and we can put this embarrassing era of video game history behind us.