Extra Punctuation: Keeping Old Games Intact
- Thread starter Yahtzee Croshaw
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Fuck legality, this is why emulation needs to be legalized. Anything other than the current generation of consoles is going to swiftly disappear to the mists of time, and we've gotten pretty damn good at emulation the really old stuff. Anything from the SNES/Genesis era and earlier is nearly perfect.
I seriously agree to everything in that article. Since I found out about emulators I enjoyed a lot of the old SNES, Genesis, Arcade games that I played or missed out on. I wouldn't want them to be remastered because they'll just up the graphics which really didn't need help and try to remix and or "modernize" the soundtrack which would alienate the original fanbase. This is why I respect the PC as the true king of gaming. Some might say its elitist but hell when you can play games from the from the 80's all the way up to modern games on one platform. That makes any console look like udder shit right there easy and we use your controllers too.
While I agree with your points in the article, part of your opinion regarding videogames as special cases (unlike books, music and movies) because of the way technology evolves is not entirely true. After all, I might get into trouble trying to play my betamax version of Star Wars, my HD-DVD version of Lord of the Rings or my vinyl record copy of Revolver.
Did anyone else come to sad realization that Sony removed BC of PS2 games so they could re-sell them to us in these HD packs? I for one now have to buy the Metal Gear solid HD pack because my PS2 just crapped out(I bought it from a friend for 20 bucks and it was already dying) and I really want to play some MGS 2 and 3
Nope. Because then all the movie companies will have extended copyright protection by another century or so, and probably eliminating the concepts of Fair Use and Public Domain from copyright law just to be on the safe side, as well as convincing the government to monitor everything anyone does on a computer remotely in order to catch all "illegal" activity.bombadilillo said:
For very old systems like the NES it's actually possible to recreate the original hardware with modern technology so you can buy a modern NES clone that works with modern TVs but accepts the old carts. For old computers it's possible to hook their drives up to a PC to feed the diskette data into a PC-based emulator, with C64 games that has the added benefit of letting you savestate the game after it's loaded so you never have to sit through those 30+ seconds again.
Are you kidding? Wii, Gamecube and PS2 emulation are nearly perfect as well if you have a beefy enough PC. And seeing the rates with which hardware is evolving it won't be long before PS3/360 games will be perfectly emulatable.Dorkmaster Flek said:
I know what you mean Yahtzee, both regarding Silent Hill 2 and this generation's backward compatibility. I bought an original PS3 because I wanted to be able to play my older games on it, but it broke recently. More than a little depressed on that fact because my new model can't play my PS2 games. Keep in mind though, I can still create an internal PS2 memory card on my new PS3. Because that makes PERFECT sense, Sony...
Figure out a way for someone to make money off of it and it will be done. But if it's something free like the library, it aint going to happen until us gamers become old, rich, and retired... or dead.
It's not like the industry is still new, being pushed along by passion. It's a money making industry now so we can expect the usual rape we see with movies; worse actually - It's not like Sony DVD players only play Sony Pictures DVDs.
The Publishers, Platform Developers, and Retailers are still looking for the best ways to rip us off. After they've perfected it, then they might throw us a bone.
After all why would Nintendo, Sony, or MS want these titles available someplace else when they can make you buy it from their own online network at a premium price. Too many people buy 80s NES games (or 90s PS1 games) off the virtual console (or PSN) for them to shoot that foot.
Currently, the only way something like this could work is as something illegal or as a mere database like IMDB. Still, the latter would be pretty cool if it was complete.
It's not like the industry is still new, being pushed along by passion. It's a money making industry now so we can expect the usual rape we see with movies; worse actually - It's not like Sony DVD players only play Sony Pictures DVDs.
The Publishers, Platform Developers, and Retailers are still looking for the best ways to rip us off. After they've perfected it, then they might throw us a bone.
After all why would Nintendo, Sony, or MS want these titles available someplace else when they can make you buy it from their own online network at a premium price. Too many people buy 80s NES games (or 90s PS1 games) off the virtual console (or PSN) for them to shoot that foot.
Currently, the only way something like this could work is as something illegal or as a mere database like IMDB. Still, the latter would be pretty cool if it was complete.
This is actually the reason I don't like DRM that requires online activation. You might need emulators or obsolete hardware to play older games, but at least the original Super Mario Bros. doesn't require you to hook up your NES to a fax and dial a number that hasn't been in use since 1993.
This might sound ridiculous bit I highly doubt the servers that are currently being used for digital activation will still be online after 50 years. This is one of the few reasons why piracy is a good thing, really.
This might sound ridiculous bit I highly doubt the servers that are currently being used for digital activation will still be online after 50 years. This is one of the few reasons why piracy is a good thing, really.