Fallout 3 not a 'proper' Fallout game?
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The gameplay was great and the story was okay. The voice acting left a lot to be desirted (oh come on, how many people wanted to reach through their monitor and choke Moira Brown ... her voice bugged the crap out of me) and some of the side quest dialogues were .... strange .... but not in a good way.
However it had Liam Neeson (who died in quite possibly the worst scene ever for a major character death) so that makes it okay in my book.
However it had Liam Neeson (who died in quite possibly the worst scene ever for a major character death) so that makes it okay in my book.
So having a crappy story, bad ending, boring characters, nonsensical explanations and crappy RPG elements aren't "legit" reasons?TestECull said:
I loved the whole political story of New Vegas, very rarely do games feature politics and society as a main focus and New Vegas did a great job in my opinion by giving us many factions all with different views and objectives.Xaositect said:
At ;east you could kill her, but that would mean losing a lot of useful stuff. Oh well, at least I could kill Three Dog without losing much, and therefore listen to the radio without some guy howling into my ear.Rawne1980 said:
Yeah, but being Bethesda they have a rule that the best voice actor they hire must die or at least have small screen time *cough*the emperor*cough*.
So Fallout 2 is a bad game because it gives you the opportunity to role-play your character and give you options?geier said:
Yeah, I played the originals after 3 and I ended liking them much, much more. The amount of ways to play those games are ridiculous.Dexter111 said:
I didn't find much of the WW stuff without help,but I did find Jimmy's Well which came with that awesome BB gun. But I found a lot more Wild Wasteland stuff in Old World Blues like Dr. Mobius mentioning his Plan 9 and the cyber dogs playing poker. Old World Blues was the funnest thing I did in New Vegas and it was worth the 10 bucks I payed.Hotshots said:
Fallout 3 is a very good game, but it only has one awesome moment, that is Liberty Prime in action,
Same here, with the exception that I played Tactics before 3, but that game isn't all that good.AlternatePFG said:
Heh, no-one can call me nostalgia-blinded when I say that F3 is by far the biggest piece of shit I've ever played and not because of the !!!!!OMG THEY SHAT ON THE LORE!!!!!, but because it's a game with shit story, character, gameplay , atrocious RPG elements and so on......
Playing new vegas felt, simply put, like coming home again. I have been playing it basically non stop since it came out. The last game I did what with was... well... probably fallout 2.Hotshots said:
That's funny because I thought that was one of the worst moments. It reminded me of Oblivion when Martin defeats Mehrunes Dagon, I felt robbed of my importance, instead it was given to some large and invincible character who took the feeling of importance away from me.theriddlen said:
Also Liberty Prime just wasn't fleshed out enough, he seemed to be in the game solely for the "awesome" of it, in fact Bethesda just seemed more occupied with making an "awesome" game than one with a good story and interesting characters.
If you wanted Fallout 1 and 2, you should have played Fallout 1 and 2. Admit it, Fallout 3 was doomed from the start, when it comes to the fanboy group. Oh no, it's made by Bethesda, it's 3D, has a FPS/TPS perspective, and real-time combat. Burn it at the stake. And Fallout 3 is far, FAR from a gritty survival game, with a lot of modding (about a year's worth, in my case), you can sort of get a survival feel going, but the vanilla game is a laugh, you can unload 20 rounds into an unarmoured human, and he shrugs it off...Imbechile said:
It seems to me that whether you like Fallout 3 is based on whether you were a fan of the previous games or not. I didn't like them much, so Fallout 3 was a (surprising) jewel for me. I expected it to be garbage, but played it once and was hooked. Fans of the previous games expected Fallout 3 to be more of the same, and were disappointed when it wasn't. The don't enjoy the game because they compare it to Fallout 1 or 2 at every turn, when they should really just enjoy the game for what it is.
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Well clearly it must be, because you say so. Your word is God, and differing opinions are VERBOTEN. Get off your high horse. Fallout was never hard, and yes, you COULD beat the game in the worst armor possible. How do I know? Because I've actually done it. Start to finish, wearing nothing but Vault suit.Kashrlyyk said:
Oh, and simply mentioning VATS to prove your point proves nothing. Pretty much everyone will agree the damage immunity in VATS was an awful idea, which is why New Vegas removed it.[/quote]
People, it's called mods. I made my own, but if you don't have the will to learn or time, download some. You can change almost anything. With my mod, I dare you to try fighting someone with fists on very easy, one on one, if he has a weapon, you're dead. Get shot a few times, dead as well, even if you had full health and you were level 100. you definitely won't be wearing a Vault suit the whole time. You can also change things like level caps, stat points, pretty much 99% of the game. I went about making it a realistic FPS survival thing, but you can do whatever you want, or download whatever you want.
I've never played a fallout game before 3.I did play Tactics before 3, but that game isn't all that good, so I'm not nostalgia-blinded.Slayer_2 said:
I wouldn't say that F3 was doomed from the start. Sure fans were pessimistic, but that doesn't mean shit. I don't think the fans hate F3 because it's not turn-based( I certanly hope not ), but because of the writing and the ignoring of the lore set by the previous games. New Vegas showed that those were the problems since most fans of the original liked it.