FO3 was, F:NV wasn't.RJ Dalton said:I wasn't aware that Fallout 3 was ever married to GFWL.
Considering this is from the Steam version in the first place, what's the difference? Before you needed Steam and GFWL, now you need Steam.jackpipsam said:Let me guess, now we'd be forced to use Steam to play the game.
Andy already pointed out recent delistings of games that are no longer available on services that are (as far as we know) healthy. And this isn't a new thing--games have been delisted on XBLA for years now. Some have come back, some haven't. There is no "future," here. The future is here. Games can be removed. At least with games like Fallout 3 and the Batman games, they aren't completely dead because the service is.wombat_of_war said:a potential glimpse into the future when some services eventually go under?
The big difference is you can still walk into a store and buy a copy of Deadpool. Why you would want to is beyond me, but it remains an option. Further, you can resell that copy, so the next person to want to buy Deadpool can. With a delisting, all the new copies are gone instantly and there are no used copies to pass around.Longstreet said:As far as i understand it, both the GoG issue and the marvel games on steam are simple rights issues, whether that is some sort of conflict or the ending of a contract i don't know, but these things can happen in brick and mortar stores aswell.
Actually, in NO case has a developer removed games from people's libraries due to loosing rights. For the recent marvel games, if you already own then, them you already own them, no-one is going to take them away from you and you can keep playing them forever. It's just that new gamers can't buy them.Andy of Comix Inc said:It's a great argument against a digital future, if ever there was one. Old N64 cartridges won't go away because a developer loses rights to them.
That's what I meant. Those games are kind of just... gone, to buy. I understand that you still own the games if you bought them - in the same way, if I buy an N64 game and it's pulled from shelves, I do still own that N64 game, save for a case of a recall (which I don't think is a legal obligation anyway). But how are people going to experience Deadpool now? I can't lend my digital copy to a friend, can I? And Deadpool is a disc game, but if it wasn't - if it was digital only, like, say, Skullgirls - that game'd be gone from circulation.Steven Bogos said:Actually, in NO case has a developer removed games from people's libraries due to loosing rights. For the recent marvel games, if you already own then, them you already own them, no-one is going to take them away from you and you can keep playing them forever. It's just that new gamers can't buy them.Andy of Comix Inc said:It's a great argument against a digital future, if ever there was one. Old N64 cartridges won't go away because a developer loses rights to them.
Andy of Comix Inc said:But how are people going to experience Deadpool now? I can't lend my digital copy to a friend, can I? And Deadpool is a disc game, but if it wasn't - if it was digital only, like, say, Skullgirls - that game'd be gone from circulation.
Emphasis mine. Steam is already on the road to enabling a family-sharing feature, so yes, you can[i/] share your games to a friend. Oh, and Skullgirls is still available on PC; it was only taken out of console storefronts.
WTF? I think you got it ass backwards. We, the people smart enough to have bought Deadpool early in the Winter sale, are free to play it over and over, talk about it in forums, write reviews of it, and even post LPs of it (barring any DMCA takedown barrages from Disney, of course).People who already have played and own the game aren't as important to the history and culture as much as new gamers.
If Valve's service shuts down a year after the release of the much anticipated HL3, it must have been awful indeed.Andy of Comix Inc said:Deadpool ain't a classic by any stretch, but when it happens to, say, Half-Life 3 in 20, 30 years time? Half-Life 3 vanishes. And I presume Half-Life 3'd be a cultural touchstone if it comes out, so that'd be disappointment indeed.