Fallout 3, will it be changed?
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Sadly they could actually lock you up for 10 years, or fine you an odd 250'000 dollars if you tried to import Fallout 3, or any other game that's been Refused Classification.Shamtee said:
Which brings us on to a more interesting point, how would customs know that you have Fallout 3 in your suitcase? The sniffer dogs can't smell video games, as far as I know, and if they were to start opening up packages coming from overseas, on the suspicion they contain games that are inappropriate for adults, then it's be interesting to see how long before someone sues them
Back to the point, my guess is that Bethesda might change the picture of the needle for morphine, this being the main sticking point according to the OFLC report.
I don't get why they'd have such a problem with the syringes anyway. Sure, if an underage kid just happens to play Fallout 3, and just happens to acquire morphine/heroin over the course of the game, he might learn how one could inject oneself with said drugs, assuming he didn't know already.
What's the problem with that? Said child is hardly likely to find ready loaded needles of heroin lying around the house, is he?
What's the problem with that? Said child is hardly likely to find ready loaded needles of heroin lying around the house, is he?
I actualy thought that the black and white part made the movie better.metagaia said:
My understanding is that the problem was that the game "encouraged" use of Morphine (gave bonuses for it). Haze wasn't a problem since "Nectar" isn't a real drug. Changing the name to Terpotium or some other imaginary drug name should solve the problem and it would hardly ruin the game.
Pardon me if I'm incorrect (I'm not familiar with the law in AU), but it seems to be born of the "out of sight, out of mind" philosophy. The less someone comes in contact with situations where viewing drug use as being taken lightly or even encouraged (some video games/movies); the more likely they are to better handle real situations involving drugs, and treating them with 'clear' respect for both the positives/negatives of the drug.J'aen said:
Then again, that really only makes a difference if properly educated about drugs, parental guidance, blah blah etc etc...
I have a rough idea of how to use a gun thanks to games/movies, even hough I'm too young to get one legally. This is not a problem, as I will probably never own, use or even hold a gun. Even if I did get my hands on a gun somehow, I would know to be very careful with it, so that's still not a problem.
So I still don't get why the Australian government are refusing to classify Fallout 3.
So I still don't get why the Australian government are refusing to classify Fallout 3.
I thought they were. I thought the issue was about the depiction of drug use period, irregardless of what it was named. I haven't been keeping a close eye on the game so I can't be for sure.Flipscore said:
If that's the case. I can't blame them based on their current judgement. Whether it's called heroin needle or snazzle pop, its still a syringe based drug.
Anyway, I'm with a previous poster, in that, for an AU censored release they could change all the drug items to another item type entirely. They may need to re-record some dialogue though...
For the sake of gaming, I hope the Australian just looks at themselves and realize that releasing a game with drug use is not the end of the world and not like people would use drug to react the game. Its like stopping drug dealers by not allowing people to walk on the streets anymore, sure it would hamper drug use but ultimately you're stopping one thing by ruining everything making nobody happy.
Making compromises where nobodies satisfied, but the forces of evil of course.
Which are obviously soccer moms that don't even have kids over 17, which was the audience the game was made for, but when the words game and drugs go together they shit themselves and become all frustrated. Which then leads them to act like their 7 year old boy, who probably are still scared of the needles and is a ***** to take to the doctor, and just attack what they think is the enemy, which of course is games, because "Why are those people having so much? *gasp they must be getting the same drugs they are using in the game, because if they use it in an virtual environment (thank you Dr. McKay) they must also being use it in real life, because it works that way! This coupled with the fact that I'm a retard parent and never talked to my kids how drug are bad! Now I'm going to write to the governor." so said the flustered parent.
Making compromises where nobodies satisfied, but the forces of evil of course.
Which are obviously soccer moms that don't even have kids over 17, which was the audience the game was made for, but when the words game and drugs go together they shit themselves and become all frustrated. Which then leads them to act like their 7 year old boy, who probably are still scared of the needles and is a ***** to take to the doctor, and just attack what they think is the enemy, which of course is games, because "Why are those people having so much? *gasp they must be getting the same drugs they are using in the game, because if they use it in an virtual environment (thank you Dr. McKay) they must also being use it in real life, because it works that way! This coupled with the fact that I'm a retard parent and never talked to my kids how drug are bad! Now I'm going to write to the governor." so said the flustered parent.
Within comings months I'm moving to Australia, and can safely say that it doesn't bother me in the least. Then again, I'm one of those guys who will just buy it for American prices (either before I leave or over the Internet) and play it on the PS3 that is moving there with me (even though it's region free, still cheaper to pack it in my carry-on).
You do know that Interplay (Publishers of the original Fallouts) edited the UK version of Fallout so that there wouldn't be children in it so that you couldn't kill them, right?Aries_Split said:
So when you say "edit", do you mean only for Australia or for everyone that gets a copy of the game?
Ever been shooting before? Some damn good fun to be had, try it.J'aen said:
ON TOPIC: So I'm getting if they change the name to like : "Stim pack" or something, it'll get through?
From what I understand, the problem is two-fold. One part, the use of real world drugs, is easily changed (It's not the injection that's objectionable...look at Bioshock). THe second, however is harder: the game mechanic of addiction to said drug.